1992 ebony nose SW cue for sale - new cue

[R.Paul]

This cue was delivered from Laurie Franklin directly yesterday. I shipped this cue to Laurie for refinished, etc on July, 2005.
6 Goncalo Alves points into Macassar nose with double veneers ( Green, white). Two shafts both are brand new and were made by SW cue.
Weight-19.5 oz, Length-58", this cue was made in 1992 and has a certificate.
100% new condition
I'm asking USD$2,650 for it, shipped.

My email: ginacue98@yahoo.com.tw

Thanks,

Paul

 

[cuejoey]

This cue was delivered from Laurie Franklin directly yesterday. I shipped this cue to Laurie for refinished, etc on July, 2005.
6 Goncalo Alves points into Macassar nose with double veneers ( Green, white). Two shafts both are brand new and were made by SW cue.
Weight-19.5 oz, Length-58", this cue was made in 1992 and has a certificate.
100% new condition
I'm asking USD$2,650 for it, shipped.

My email: ginacue98@yahoo.com.tw

Thanks,

Paul

very nice cue.....most South West's though have an average asking price of $1,500.00 !!!!!!!!!

 

[inrush]

" very nice cue.....most South West's though have an average asking price of $1,500.00 !!!!!!!!!"



You can't be serious. But if for some reason you are I will take as many JF era authenticated 6 point veneered SW's you can find for $1500 each. I'll even pick up the shipping.

 

[Shorty]

That cue in that condition with credentials is dang near dead on in the asking price...heck I would almost consider it a steal!

Good luck with the sell,
Shorty

 

[1pRoscoe]

very nice cue.....most South West's though have an average asking price of $1,500.00 !!!!!!!!!

I'll take any 1992 mint SW cue with papers for $1500 you can find.

 

[skins]

no original shafts

does'nt have original shafts. price too high because of that. imho

 

[pooldogue]

I feel the price is close but with the unoriginal shafts the price might be a little inflated but there are "hands for any cue at any price" of course..... Very nice cue and i wish you great luck in selling it also..........

 

[ironchef.]

I'm curious about something. Is the general concensus that if a cue doesn't come with the original shafts it was made with, but the same cuemaker makes new shafts for it with the proper matching ring work, does it significantly reduce the overall value of the cue?

 

[classiccues]

I'm curious about something. Is the general concensus that if a cue doesn't come with the original shafts it was made with, but the same cuemaker makes new shafts for it with the proper matching ring work, does it significantly reduce the overall value of the cue?

No. In the case of SW they use the same tapers that Jerry used. AND its still the same company. I think if the shafts were made by ANOTHER cuemaker, you could make the argument about value. Similar situation with Barry Szamboti. If he makes shafts for a Gus, there is no significant value reduction, IMHO. Of course that opinion varies collector to collector.

Joe

 

[Shorty]

I agree...so to me it doesn't matter if it has new or old shafts, as long as they are SW made shafts.

My reasoning for the value being so up there is how many ebony forearm SW's have you seen? They seem to be a little rarer than normal maple forearm ones.

Shorty

 

[cueaddicts]

I'm curious about something. Is the general concensus that if a cue doesn't come with the original shafts it was made with, but the same cuemaker makes new shafts for it with the proper matching ring work, does it significantly reduce the overall value of the cue?

No...for a SW like this the new shafts make no difference to 99% of collectors. And IMO Paul is offering this cue at a very reasonable price for what it is. How many ebony nosed pre-date SWs less than 20oz have you seen? Very few....and they are quite a rarity.

Sean

 

[Flower]

Hey ,I'm not a collector ,but I like the color's.I bid 2000USD
Ko.

 

[R.Paul]

I must say that the price of this cue can be negotiable.
Why I asked USD$2,650 for this cue? 6 month ago, one of US cue dealers wanted to sell another one of pre-date SW cues to me and she asked USD$2,850 for it, plus shipping.....That is a used cue but, she still asked USD$2,850 for it
I have seen some websites of US dealers'...The market price of each brand new SW cue will be usually asked on $2,500-$2,700 range so, I decide to ask USD$2,650 for my pre-date SW cue.
I spent a lot of money for repaired this cue...Ordered two new shafts, refinished, a certificat and shipping costs because this cue just has one original shaft before I shipped to Laurie and the original shaft is shorter, too thin and not straight......
No matter what, I hope to say thanks to some people who said something for me and will sincerely listen to opinions of anyone's.

Thanks,

Paul

 

[skins]

No...for a SW like this the new shafts make no difference to 99% of collectors. And IMO Paul is offering this cue at a very reasonable price for what it is. How many ebony nosed pre-date SWs less than 20oz have you seen? Very few....and they are quite a rarity.

Sean

imho i 100% dissagree. i know there are differences in the new shafts compared to the originals. i've owned many jerry era southwests ,1984 to 1994, and some post jerry and there are differences in the shafts play ability though they be subtle. to me as a player and collector the original shafts ,if sound, make the cue that much more desireable. by the way 9 ebony nosed jerry's have passed through my hands over the years and they all played great.

 

[TATE]

I must say that the price of this cue can be negotiable.
Why I asked USD$2,650 for this cue? 6 month ago, one of US cue dealers wanted to sell another one of pre-date SW cues to me and she asked USD$2,850 for it, plus shipping.....That is a used cue but, she still asked USD$2,850 for it
I have seen some websites of US dealers'...The market price of each brand new SW cue will be usually asked on $2,500-$2,700 range so, I decide to ask USD$2,650 for my pre-date SW cue.
I spent a lot of money for repaired this cue...Ordered two new shafts, refinished, a certificat and shipping costs because this cue just has one original shaft before I shipped to Laurie and the original shaft is shorter, too thin and not straight......
No matter what, I hope to say thanks to some people who said something for me and will sincerely listen to opinions of anyone's.

Thanks,

Paul

Paul,

I think this cue is a good deal.

In 20 years it won't matter if someone paid $2300 for it or $2600 for it, according to my calculations based on the historic values of typical spliced SW cues and their appreciation, it will be worth about $8,700. And they can use it if they want without fear of much depreciation.

The only person it would not be worth paying your asking price is someone who can find this same cue for less money or someone who will not keep it for any significant length of time.

Chris

 

[skins]

according to my calculations based on the historic values of typical spliced SW cues and their appreciation, it will be worth about $8,700.
Chris

here it comes you set yourself up for it.
i'll buy it for 2,600 if you'll immediately but it from me for 3,000. after 20 years you can make a big profit. just funnin'

 

[ironchef.]

Thanks for the info guys. I think Paul's asking price is more than fair and the condition of the cue is phenomenal. I was considering having new shafts made for my Southwest because its my shooting cue and the originals have thinned down a little.

I think the best claim to make is that old cliche, it is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Most will agree to disagree, but someone will give it a good home I'm sure.

 

[cueaddicts]

Thanks for the info guys. I think Paul's asking price is more than fair and the condition of the cue is phenomenal. I was considering having new shafts made for my Southwest because its my shooting cue and the originals have thinned down a little.

I think the best claim to make is that old cliche, it is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Most will agree to disagree, but someone will give it a good home I'm sure.

Ricky,

Well put, and I agree it's a fair asking price, and especially so because SW's refinish and shaft work isn't cheap. The issue here is resale value, not what difference there are between the old shafts and new ones. Sure, there are some differences, and sure, full original shafts will accentuate the value of any pre-date. But you simply don't see that being the case regularly. Most old pre-dates like this will have the shafts played way down and/or some warpage. After all, they were made for players...before cues became collectible.

From my perspective as a seller, I'd much rather have this cue refinished with the two new SW shafts instead of needing a refinish without two full original shafts. But, heck, what do we know....we haven't sold too many.

Sean

 

[skins]

good home

someone will give it a good home I'm sure.

i don't doubt that!

 

[ribdoner]

very nice cue.....most South West's though have an average asking price of $1,500.00 !!!!!!!!!

YES--Nice plain maple "players" cues made after Jerry's unfortunate death,which,IMHO, are every bit the cue as the ones produced before his passing. The cue being sold is an example cue. I owned it and sold it in EXC,original condition. Tommy Kennedy played with it for some time. Based on what the cue sold for and the amt spent for refinish,rewrap,shafts,etc. the current owner might be losing $ at his asking price. If I didn't have 3 high $ cues coming in the next few weeks I'd buy it back!!