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Rickw

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Has anyone played someone that can really break well using the kick break? I played a guy yesterday that shot this break shot flawlessly. He would kick the cb into the side rail and hit the pack right around the second ball and the cb would freeze up against the pack. No balls would move towards my pocket and he would have 2 or 3 balls over by his pocket every time. This necessitated a safety kick on my part. I won the two games we played but barely. My strategy was to employ a safety kick following his break. I got some good rolls and squeaked out the win.

My question is, why do you never see any of the really good players use this break?
 
Iam not sure but I think most rules state that the cue ball has to hit the rack first.
 
.2 The opening break begins with ball in hand behind the head string. On the break, the cue ball may contact either a cushion or any ball in the rack first, but in either case, after contacting at least one ball, an object ball must be pocketed, or the cue ball or at least one object ball must contact a rail, otherwise it is a one foul penalty. As long as a legal stroke is employed from behind the head string on the break, the incoming player must play the balls where they lie – there are no re-racks for a pocket scratch or failure to contact a cushion or pocket a ball on the break.
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From: http://onepocket.org/one_pocket_pool_rules.htm
 
I think people have tried a number of unusual breaks for one pocket, your kick shot; slow rolling into the head ball where only 1-2 balls come out and the cue ball sticks to the stack, and a few others.

Your kick shot is "usually reserved for specific playing conditions, such as when the balls aren't breaking well, causing frequent sell-outs because of high humidity." according to Eddie Robins Winning One Pocket book. When Ed Kelly was shown the diagram of the shot, he said "Not with a gun to my head..."

Overall, I think that break is for confusing inexperienced one pocket players. It's not aggressive enough to work against top competition, especially against people who kick good.
 
I've seen several people use this break. Personally, I've never seen a good/great 1p player use it. It's way too risky. The risk by far outweighs the rewards.....
 
I play a guy that uses it pretty well. If I'm getting a spot and he sticks the cb to the rack, I'll just go rail first and back into the same ball I was froze to. If I get a ball to come out and hit a rail great and if not I lose part of my spot but he is in a real jam now. If the breaker hits to hard or a dead rail, chalk spot, whatever alot can go wrong.

Andy
 
bud green said:
...When Ed Kelly was shown the diagram of the shot, he said "Not with a gun to my head..."...It's not aggressive enough to work against top competition,
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What he said- it's a bit of a sucker break.
 
bud green said:
I think people have tried a number of unusual breaks for one pocket, your kick shot; slow rolling into the head ball where only 1-2 balls come out and the cue ball sticks to the stack, and a few others.

Your kick shot is "usually reserved for specific playing conditions, such as when the balls aren't breaking well, causing frequent sell-outs because of high humidity." according to Eddie Robins Winning One Pocket book. When Ed Kelly was shown the diagram of the shot, he said "Not with a gun to my head..."

Overall, I think that break is for confusing inexperienced one pocket players. It's not aggressive enough to work against top competition, especially against people who kick good.
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This is exactly why I started this thread. I've never seen a really good player using this break and I've seen the best; Efren, Nick Varner, Billy Palmer, TRex, Parica, etc. and none of them ever used this break. Watching this guy yesterday, though, made me wonder because he was really hitting the break good. The cb was absolutely frozen to the rack every time with no balls to shoot at.

This guy has a phenominal stroke though. I saw him break a straight pool rack once and he shot from the head spot into the head ball with follow and froze up on the head ball tight sending the wing balls towards the corners. It was an amazing shot. The guy he was shooting just quit right after the break. He said anyone who can shoot that shot is way over his head.
 
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