Yes, but by being so close to the pocket and just off the rail, the 9 ball is "big" enough to make the 14-9 a fairly high percentage shot. The 11 provides protection against that.
Ken
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1p- what's the shot? I am stumped
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Yes, but by being so close to the pocket and just off the rail, the 9 ball is "big" enough to make the 14-9 a fairly high percentage shot. The 11 provides protection against that.
Ken
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It happened....just like i thought
THE INTENTIONAL FOUL SITUATION JUST HAPPENED ON THE POOL ACTION TV MATCH BETWEEN JEREMY JONES AND CLIFF JOYNER. CLIFF TOOK A FOUL, JEREMY PUT HIM BACK IN THE SAME SPOT. THEY'RE BOTH ON ONE, CLIFF PUSH BACK TO THE INITIAL FOUL SPOT, JEREMY PUT HIM BACK. NOW IT WAS CLIFFS SHOT AND HE'S ON TWO. CLIFF SHOOTS AT THE STACK AND LEAVES JEREMY A SHOT. JEREMY GETS THREE BALLS OUT OF THE DEAL. WHEN ITS 50/50, SHOOT FOR YOUR HOLE. AN INTENTIONAL FOUL IN A TOUGH SITUATION IS NOT GOOD TO ME. AS GRADY WOULD SAY 'GIVE YOURSELF A CHANCE TO WIN. :thumbup:
WUTANG
THE INTENTIONAL FOUL SITUATION JUST HAPPENED ON THE POOL ACTION TV MATCH BETWEEN JEREMY JONES AND CLIFF JOYNER. CLIFF TOOK A FOUL, JEREMY PUT HIM BACK IN THE SAME SPOT. THEY'RE BOTH ON ONE, CLIFF PUSH BACK TO THE INITIAL FOUL SPOT, JEREMY PUT HIM BACK. NOW IT WAS CLIFFS SHOT AND HE'S ON TWO. CLIFF SHOOTS AT THE STACK AND LEAVES JEREMY A SHOT. JEREMY GETS THREE BALLS OUT OF THE DEAL. WHEN ITS 50/50, SHOOT FOR YOUR HOLE. AN INTENTIONAL FOUL IN A TOUGH SITUATION IS NOT GOOD TO ME. AS GRADY WOULD SAY 'GIVE YOURSELF A CHANCE TO WIN. :thumbup:
WUTANG
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First you jack the bet!
Then you roll onto the 7 taking a foul.
Then you roll onto the 7 taking a foul.
That is an incredible break btw,I assume the breaker racked his own?
Also like the carom in some situations but I would take fouls first until I can get a line to the opponents pocket or a decent flyer.
Also like the carom in some situations but I would take fouls first until I can get a line to the opponents pocket or a decent flyer.
Lenny's shot is the right shot for a few reasons....
Number one it's 2 rail speed so your opponent taking a scratch and putting you back is going to be way harder and a few inches changes your options....
If your opponent comes off the 3 like Lou said you pretty much are going to get a shot at removing balls in all likelyhood... Thin hits are speed sensitive....
Putting the opponent up there limits many responses and opens him up to doing something just stoopid... It happens...
Freezing to the wrong side of the stack will buy you a hey I took a foul too unless the guy has never played 1-hope before and you still have no responses..... I'd shoot the carom at my hole before I would do that and hit em mach-9.. But I wouldn't do that unless I was mad at my backer....
Number one it's 2 rail speed so your opponent taking a scratch and putting you back is going to be way harder and a few inches changes your options....
If your opponent comes off the 3 like Lou said you pretty much are going to get a shot at removing balls in all likelyhood... Thin hits are speed sensitive....
Putting the opponent up there limits many responses and opens him up to doing something just stoopid... It happens...
Freezing to the wrong side of the stack will buy you a hey I took a foul too unless the guy has never played 1-hope before and you still have no responses..... I'd shoot the carom at my hole before I would do that and hit em mach-9.. But I wouldn't do that unless I was mad at my backer....
I thought about the jump shot as well but the position of the nine in conjunction with no room to land deterred me of this. But with a full cue. No punk cues I mean jump cues are allowed in 1 hole.
Cliff, Justin and all the others let me use them, something about letting the sucker do what ever he want's to do.
After looking at the shot from the bottom of the table, you could bank the 11 over onto your side. You just have to be real careful to leave the cue ball near the side rail. (This shot might not be any good on a loose table though. I play on Diamonds)
If thats where Lenny wanted the cue ball he's just might be in trouble. Looks like you can make the 9 and if not wouldn't be to hard to get there.
Sure looks that way from the picture.
Well I am at the pool hall now with the balls set up how they are shown. I like the foul I said but it seems like you could leave a 13-9 combo with the cue ball getting past the 6 and behind the balls. The one rail kick was super hard with the 13 and 14 being big balls and the three rail was not happening for me. Tough situation here for sure.
Also if I was the breaker and the guy I am playing takes my foul rolling up table I am not putting him back by the side pocket but rolling the cue ball on the 4-1 lightly.
Using the 11 is crazy being on the rail and its one of your blockers for the 9 also.
I think if your playing for some serious cash here the only move is to fake a heart attack and have the ambulance take you away.:grin: .
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Haha, nice.
I might have to take back rolling up on the 4 even though it is an easy place to go. You give the guy a chance to go off the 7 and opening up the 2 and 5 to the pocket and getting back down table. Either shoot the 13-9 combo or roll back to the original position seems to be better.
If I may quote myself: "The headrail foul is ok, but if you leave a small gap off the rails, there are returns that could really increase the pain. E.g., (1) shoot the the 13-9, bring the cue between the 6 and 15, and run out; (2) shoot the 11-9 or 11-14-9, depending on the angle, and bring the cue to the other side of the stack."
Nice to see someone test the theories and advance the discussion.
I guess that the real answer is that if you break perfect, you'll probably win the game.
Cory
That's why I like the Reyes type of response.
Playing conservative too often takes the game to its logical conclusion....
...which is a good break wins the game.
"When the deck is stacked, it's time to kick over the table."
I THINK THIS IS A STRONG/AGGRESSIVE SHOT AS WELL. I SAID SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THE SITUATION BY USING THE 5,6, AND 9 BALLS. MIGHT HURT YOUR OPPONENT BY DOING THIS.
WUTANG
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To me, taking the intentional foul only buys time. What if your opponent intentional fouls and puts you back? You do this twice and you're on two, now what? (still learning myself). I probably would shoot the 5 off the 6, making the 9, and bringing the cue ball 2 rails out of my pocket side and bringing the cue ball to the 'intentional foul' position/area. With a power shot like this, you might send balls to your side and 'flip' the break on your opponent or you might sleep in the street (lol). I think getting out of anyone's break like this is no picnic. Patience is the key here.
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We'll have to play some time ... no long games for us! For the record, Black-Balled usually beats me in 1P. Must be his monster breaks.