1x2 Fellini style...tips up or tips down?
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Reminds me of a line from 'Enter The Dragon' ... "...it won't matter, cause I'll be too busy lookin good." (But then again - he did get dumped into a vat of acid too...)
JP on all - tips down out of habit. Usually wipe them off before putting away.
After an argument on rec.sport.billiard usenet news group, I phoned Fellini and asked how they were supposed to be put in. He told me the case was designed for tips down, pin up. Otherwise the pin could go through the bottom of the case. That's the way I've always carried mine.
I like the 1x1 George cases.
I have one and would like another in smooth black leather...no pouch or strap of course.
I missed one recently.
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Interesting. That's great information...historic even.
The loading instructions with a new It's George case indicates tips up for the 1x2.
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Incidentally, back in the 80's I carried my Joss in my Fellini with the tips down and I had the face of the shafts marked so I knew which was which.
At some point I changed when I noticed chalk dust collecting and I became concerned about that. That's when I went tips up. I think that was in the early 90's.
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At some point I changed when I noticed chalk dust collecting and I became concerned about that. That's when I went tips up. I think that was in the early 90's.
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A few year back I was at Barry's house with three of his dad's cues in Fellini cases with the tips up/joint screw down. He asked me why I had it that way and I replied I didn't want to get chalk into the sleeves of the case(s). He said "Oh, that's fine...that's how I keep my cues in my cases as well".
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To be honest, I never gave chalk dust any thought when I was using it. But, I'm a bit ocd about my shafts and am always wiping them, especially when I put them away. Joss, Scruggs, two Southwests got carried in that case over the years. I still use it with my Dishaw if I'm only going with two shafts. I also have a Porper and a Whitten, both tips down.
Interesting.
So we have:
Barry tips up. Big name cue maker
Bob Hempel (Fellini) Tips down. Big name case maker
It's George instructions tips up. Big name case maker
I think it's obvious it is really personal preference but it's interesting to see some of the reasoning people have. :smile:
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The question with a box case is tips left or tips right.
Do you have a right handed or left handed cue?
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It's in a hard case so no damage is going to occur whether they are up or down. The only issue is the dreaded blueing of the shaft that everyone hates but I even when I played with a cue worth thousand and thousands of dollars never cared about. If that bothers you put tips up.
When I purchased my first Thomas case I spoke to Ron about it (1X2) I "brokered" one sale to a friend of mine and he tried putting his cue in butt down, tips up and he struggled because it was "too tight". Regardless of what you choose, the joint should be together for it to fit nicely without forcing it, so it should be tips up, butt up; or tips down, butt down. At least in his opinion. I also think that some of the tube style cases are a bit smaller/narrower than others.
Exactly true.
Generally you want the joint end together. It just makes sense. But it does depend on the tube size as far as whether or not it is possible or reasonable to do it another way..
The tubes on this style of case vary more than some might think.
GTF cases are probably the largest, but they have a lot of padding.
Kelli cases are probably the smallest (with the exception of some "cheap" cases like some of the old Viking and Adam cases, some of which had paper thin cloth dividers). The Kelli cases were in fact designed to be snug. No way to put the cue in without the joint ends together, and no way you could put an old style fat butt cue in there.
I have an old Viking tube case that actually came with a thicker lining than the usual paper thin fabric. It is more like the nice Fellini or Engles lining. But the tube is small like the typical old Viking case. It is actually really very snug, even more snug than a Kelli case. It is a 1x2...but honestly it is super tight and the tube is probably smaller than a 1x1 It's George case.
In an old Fellini you could actually get a third shaft in by putting it in the opposite direction as the other two as deanoc pointed out earlier.
Incidentally- My Kelli case (Bill McDaniel designed) holds the cue snug, like a GTF. Turn it upside down and shake it and the cue will not fall out. Small tube. The GTF uses a larger tube with more padding. JB is, after all, all about protection. It is interesting to note that Bill McDaniel solved the problem of the cues rattling or sliding out a long time before JB did. I know JB is aware of this, he knows cases and case history. But JB solved it in a different way, with more padding instead of a smaller tube.
About four years ago we had some friends over for dinner. A couple and their 18 year old daughter. The daughter was intending to go to med school, had just started pre-med, and we knew her parents so they wanted her to meet me and talk. The husband is a woodworker, nothing with cues, but he admires wood, so we ended up hauling out some cues to look at.
We passed around a couple cues. While I wasn't looking the daughter tried to stuff my Joss back in the Fellini with the tips up and the butt first. When I looked up and saw her doing it I was shocked and immediately took it out of her hands. She did manage to start to wedge it in there about a third of the distance down...right about where the shafts started getting thicker. It was so tight I was worried she might have cracked the tube...she didn't. The cue and case were fine.
I discussed this at a later point with her father. She didn't have the innate observational skill to see what she was doing was a problem, and she lacked the care for it to matter, she just pushed harder when she met the resistance. I suggested that medicine might not be the right field for her. They and she had thought that because she was a straight A student medicine was a natural fit. Far from the truth.
She ended up going into another field, entirely outside the sciences in fact.
To some, I think, such observations as we are making in this thread are trivial...or obvious. But I don't think they are. I think they are interesting. And I think that the case of a young lady altering her career direction based on it perhaps points out how significant it might be.
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