Thanks for sharing your experiences. Mine are different, although I have already opined that the straighter shooter will win more often in the rollout version. Texas Express requires a slightly different skill set, and a more rounded one at that.
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that part is true as jumping and kicking isnt as or even really important in shoot out/pushout.
but also in pushout you play your opponent more. you leave him shots that he is weak at and maybe are better ones for you. strategy comes into play, rather than the ability to run balls being the only dominant thing that wins the games.
but in pool almost every game including one pocket if the shooter is significantly better than his opponent he will win as well.
in one pocket, and pushout nine ball, if both players are "close" in shooting skills, the smarter and more cunning player edges out the win.
in texas the best shooter is always the favorite. that is why i believe few will play 9 ball anymore for decent money as its easy to tell who the better shooting player is, but not so easy to tell who is smarter.
as most can see i look at it from the gambling matching up side, not from tournaments. so my views are skewed in that direction.
but also in pushout you play your opponent more. you leave him shots that he is weak at and maybe are better ones for you. strategy comes into play, rather than the ability to run balls being the only dominant thing that wins the games.
but in pool almost every game including one pocket if the shooter is significantly better than his opponent he will win as well.
in one pocket, and pushout nine ball, if both players are "close" in shooting skills, the smarter and more cunning player edges out the win.
in texas the best shooter is always the favorite. that is why i believe few will play 9 ball anymore for decent money as its easy to tell who the better shooting player is, but not so easy to tell who is smarter.
as most can see i look at it from the gambling matching up side, not from tournaments. so my views are skewed in that direction.
You keep saying nobody wants to play Texas express for big money. That is just untrue and has been so since about 20 min after it was conceived.
In fact, I'd find today, closer to 'nobody' wants to play pushout for any big money.
boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
You're right but look at this, here is a forum full of pool nuts trying to piece together the rules from a 50 year old dead game. People might play it if they even knew what it was.
If only our powers could be used for good!
Bottom line for me: I see 0 reason why an incoming player should ever be allowed to shoot from anywhere other than where the ball lies when he comes to the table.
few in the poolrooms ive been to want to play any 9 ball for decent money. regardless of the rules.
my point was that this scenario happened just after texas became dominant in all the poolrooms.
of course no one plays pushout anymore as the generation now never heard of it.
my point was that this scenario happened just after texas became dominant in all the poolrooms.
of course no one plays pushout anymore as the generation now never heard of it.
I agree 1p is prob a better choice for a big bet, unless you aren't directly involved.
9b at a high level is a slugfest. It is hard to perform at that hi level for hours.
The current generation is well acquainted with the pushout. It is exactly the same set of considerations for the shots after the first one...only without the possibility of occurring every shot.