2 rail banking?

[CeaseLess]

Is there a way to use the parallel shift system of kicking for banks? Or something similar. Looking for a quick way to measure 2 rail banks either in my head or with my cue, that doesn't involve counting diamonds. Thanks.

 

[qolbrand]

 

[bbb]

Is there a way to use the parallel shift system of kicking for banks? Or something similar. Looking for a quick way to measure 2 rail banks either in my head or with my cue, that doesn't involve counting diamonds. Thanks.

@qolbrand
he was asking about banking
got anything?

 

[nataddrho]

@qolbrand
he was asking about banking
got anything?

I think not really. Banks are effected way too much with spin. You need to first have precise cue tip placement, and at that point systems are just a crutch. It is a lot of feel.

 

[CeaseLess]

I think not really. Banks are effected way too much with spin. You need to first have precise cue tip placement, and at that point systems are just a crutch. It is a lot of feel.

Yea but kicks are affected heavily by spin and there's plenty of systems for those. I'm sure there's something simple out there that I just don't know of that will give you a solid line, atleast as a reference.

 

[bbb]

I think not really. Banks are effected way too much with spin. You need to first have precise cue tip placement, and at that point systems are just a crutch. It is a lot of feel.

systems are not a crutch

I think not really. Banks are effected way too much with spin. You need to first have precise cue tip placement, and at that point systems are just a crutch. It is a lot of feel.

whether you use a system or not
unintentional spin will cause problems with banking/kicking/ and pocketing balls even if you are playing by feel

 

[alphadog]

I think not really. Banks are effected way too much with spin. You need to first have precise cue tip placement, and at that point systems are just a crutch. It is a lot of feel.

I think both banks and kicks are effected more by changes in speed than spin. Spin does play a role.

 

[straightline]

Is there a way to use the parallel shift system of kicking for banks? Or something similar. Looking for a quick way to measure 2 rail banks either in my head or with my cue, that doesn't involve counting diamonds. Thanks.

not without organizing thousands of attempts by degree of success - after the 10,000 attempts to get a feel for it.

 

[Poolplaya9]

Is there a way to use the parallel shift system of kicking for banks? Or something similar. Looking for a quick way to measure 2 rail banks either in my head or with my cue, that doesn't involve counting diamonds. Thanks.

I would think the parallel shift system for kicking would work reasonably well for banks as well as long as you take into account whatever spin your banked ball will be picking up from the cue ball if any, take into account whether your banked object ball is rolling or sliding when it hits the first rail, and take into account the speed you are banking the object ball and then adjust for those as needed just as you would have to adjust for the speed of the cue ball and the amount and type of spin on it if you were kicking.

Dr. Dave has a literal ton of info on banks and kicks and perhaps some more helpful info can be found somewhere in the following:

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[qolbrand]

@qolbrand
he was asking about banking
got anything?

i think knowing the lines is the first part, but no, i don’t have anything in mine for banks.

i’d actually like to get better at 2 and 3 rail lag speed bank shots for 1p, myself. feels like i hit it well if i get it to the correct quadrant of the table but i’d like to tighten that up by a diamond or two