$20,000 Challenge to Lou Figueroa.

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Ok, I will take 12:3 and play you a ten ahead for $50,000 with a dildo glued to my head.

How soon can you post? All of Oklahoma City is backing me.

OK. Nov 1st. See you on the moon. My terms. No exceptions.

See how that works.


Nick
 
Keep trying to use the child psychology that impressed you when you fell for it when you were 30+ or was it 40+ years old, Genius.

Thanks for proving my point that it had nothing at all to do with what I said in my suggestion.

They say revenge is best served cold. Perhaps you had better chill out & cool down... & perhaps freeze to death, because it will be a cold day in Hell before I fall for your crap.

Yes, asking someone to gamble is "child psychology" and you won't fall for it. Trust me, there is nobody here that even thought for a second you would put your money where your big mouth is based on your 46 years of experience. Typical nit. Tell us more Mr. Billiards. LOL
 
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OK. Nov 1st. See you on the moon. My terms. No exceptions.

See how that works.


Nick

Yes I understand how it works. But my offer is fair especially for a game where the world thinks the other guy is flat out stealing.
 
Have read the entire thread. Have no idea who anyone is involved in the thread. Been away from the game and forum for the most part for 25 years. Just recently began to attempt to play again.
I have no clue who any of these people are
The thread is simple
Offer made.......very fair......lot of heart to play based on most feeling that he is strong underdog.......offer refused, yet way too much yapping....
Guy has no heart, no gamble, no game, or no money......probably all 4
I cant see to play well anymore, but I still understand gamble......
End of story......imo

Well you're right about ONE thing... you have no clue.

Dale
 
JB I LOVE this thread and all the noise it creates!!
But, Chinese cue cases?? Not so much.
 
John, If you truly want something to happen, be willing to negotiate. Otherwise It seems disingenuous. Also- saying you don't want drama this time, but quickly insulting Lou as "scared, etc" is not going to help IF you do actually want to play again. Please!! I would love to sweat this again. You have heart for sure and it was fun the first time. Without the drama I agree.
 
John, If you truly want something to happen, be willing to negotiate. Otherwise It seems disingenuous. Also- saying you don't want drama this time, but quickly insulting Lou as "scared, etc" is not going to help IF you do actually want to play again. Please!! I would love to sweat this again. You have heart for sure and it was fun the first time. Without the drama I agree.

He's supposedly donating 20k. For 20k I'd fly anywhere.
 
JB I LOVE this thread and all the noise it creates!!
But, Chinese cue cases?? Not so much.

Ok. Thanks for your opinion. My Chinese made cases are providing the 20k that Lou is refusing to take.

I did buy a Ford hybrid last month which shows you how the dollars spent on Chinese cases can translate into paying American workers.....things work that way on a globe. ;-)

Glad I could liven the place up a little for ya. Will get a lot more fun if Lou finds a backer who doesn't mind him playing scared.
 
John, If you truly want something to happen, be willing to negotiate. Otherwise It seems disingenuous. Also- saying you don't want drama this time, but quickly insulting Lou as "scared, etc" is not going to help IF you do actually want to play again. Please!! I would love to sweat this again. You have heart for sure and it was fun the first time. Without the drama I agree.

The offer is fair and simple. There is no need to negotiate. The guy blasted me in a dozen ways prior to the match and flat out lied about me afterward.

I don't even want to have any back and forth on terms. As for him being scared, he is.

That's a fact as I see it and not an insult. If I were in his shoes I'd be scared as well. Not because I didn't think I have the best of it, he does, but scared of the possibility that I could lose and what that would mean psychologically. I think that fear of his ego being bruised is the real problem. That's only my opinion of course.

Nothing I asked for is out of line in any way. His backer from the first match is probably salivating and begging Lou to accept.
 
Clueless

Well you're right about ONE thing... you have no clue.

Dale

Clueless old man joining in the thread......shoulda knew better.....so I have no clue....why dont you educate me.....what am I missing Sir. Sounds like I struck a nerve.

Or perhaps you would like to play clueless some one hole?
 
Clueless old man joining in the thread......shoulda knew better.....so I have no clue....why dont you educate me.....what am I missing Sir. Sounds like I struck a nerve.



Or perhaps you would like to play clueless some one hole?


This thread/forum is full of clueless old men! Who taught you farts how to use the innerweb?

But seriously, this is hilarious stuff. Keep up the good work!


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Your opponent was "all business"..you were not. In the first contest.

The offer is fair and simple. There is no need to negotiate. The guy blasted me in a dozen ways prior to the match and flat out lied about me afterward.
I don't even want to have any back and forth on terms. As for him being scared, he is.
That's a fact as I see it and not an insult. If I were in his shoes I'd be scared as well. Not because I didn't think I have the best of it, he does, but scared of the possibility that I could lose and what that would mean psychologically. I think that fear of his ego being bruised is the real problem. That's only my opinion of course.
Nothing I asked for is out of line in any way. His backer from the first match is probably salivating and begging Lou to accept.
Mr. Barton, you're not going to like this.
It isn't anything profound and certainly I am one of those "never was" of the pool world. And this is MY OPINION ONLY.......(easily ignored, forgotten, and buried if you decide). However, I am one of the world's best railbirds/locksmiths and I can read faces, eyes, and body language like I had an x-ray machine into players' heads.
I have watched that full match between you and the "Lou guy" 5 times...analyzing, reversing the play back and forth,right down to many of the finer details.
Your use or non use of CTE had little to do with your losing that match. The ubiquitous "they" cannot hang that loss on Shuffett's system. In fact, I don't think you were even using it.
You lost because you were scared to death and did not concentrate on what you were doing. I will elaborate.....
1. Hurrying to the shot like it was going to disappear suddenly, instead of prowling that table like "Alex the Lion" does.
2. You did not stay down and follow through on your shots.
3. You demonstrated a cavalier attitude throughout. :confused: Poor concentration, talking to yourself, dancing around the table after a victory,.....these things will not work for you against a stone cold killer like "Lou guy". He was after your blood, my man. Even though you had him near the ropes a few times and he was sweating around the upper lip and constantly wiping his sweaty palms on his slacks......you, sir, missed all the tells. He has so many, it's like an open book into his head and yours are pretty revealing as well. I don't think either of you would last very long in poker. A good 'base runner' would rob you both in short order.
4. "Lou guy" knows more about the game of one pocket than you do. You need a lot of heat from strong opponents to learn the basic moves and shots.
5. I retract all my posts concerning any of my betting in any future matches (if they happen) between you and Lou. You won't win it.......unless you're spending 12-14 hours a day in training with a coach like Danny DeLiberto (as well as practicing your CTE).
Sorry to be so blunt...as I said, it's just what I noticed myself.
(Flame away.........but it was NOT a loss due to CTE Aiming Method and you didn't look fatigued to me)
I know, I know, you never said it was, etc. etc.
Regards anyway,
Flash :)
 
Ok. Thanks for your opinion. My Chinese made cases are providing the 20k that Lou is refusing to take.

I did buy a Ford hybrid last month which shows you how the dollars spent on Chinese cases can translate into paying American workers.....things work that way on a globe. ;-)

Glad I could liven the place up a little for ya. Will get a lot more fun if Lou finds a backer who doesn't mind him playing scared.

Well that's quite nice of you to support your home country every now and then ,

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It is funny......but kinda sad though.., for two reasons

This thread/forum is full of clueless old men! Who taught you farts how to use the innerweb?

But seriously, this is hilarious stuff. Keep up the good work!


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REASON 1...... The case maker was simply trying to bet 20000.....not small money, imo
Reason 2....... All of us should be playing pool somewhere instead of setting around talking about somebody elses bet.


All in fun, but I am dropping out on this thread.....good luck guys:)
 
Mr. Barton, you're not going to like this.
It isn't anything profound and certainly I am one of those "never was" of the pool world. And this is MY OPINION ONLY.......(easily ignored, forgotten, and buried if you decide). However, I am one of the world's best railbirds/locksmiths and I can read faces, eyes, and body language like I had an x-ray machine into players' heads.
I have watched that full match between you and the "Lou guy" 5 times...analyzing, reversing the play back and forth,right down to many of the finer details.
Your use or non use of CTE had little to do with your losing that match. The ubiquitous "they" cannot hang that loss on Shuffett's system. In fact, I don't think you were even using it.
You lost because you were scared to death and did not concentrate on what you were doing. I will elaborate.....
1. Hurrying to the shot like it was going to disappear suddenly, instead of prowling that table like "Alex the Lion" does.
2. You did not stay down and follow through on your shots.
3. You demonstrated a cavalier attitude throughout. :confused: Poor concentration, talking to yourself, dancing around the table after a victory,.....these things will not work for you against a stone cold killer like "Lou guy". He was after your blood, my man. Even though you had him near the ropes a few times and he was sweating around the upper lip and constantly wiping his sweaty palms on his slacks......you, sir, missed all the tells. He has so many, it's like an open book into his head and yours are pretty revealing as well. I don't think either of you would last very long in poker. A good 'base runner' would rob you both in short order.
4. "Lou guy" knows more about the game of one pocket than you do. You need a lot of heat from strong opponents to learn the basic moves and shots.
5. I retract all my posts concerning any of my betting in any future matches (if they happen) between you and Lou. You won't win it.......unless you're spending 12-14 hours a day in training with a coach like Danny DeLiberto (as well as practicing your CTE).
Sorry to be so blunt...as I said, it's just what I noticed myself.
(Flame away.........but it was NOT a loss due to CTE Aiming Method and you didn't look fatigued to me)
I know, I know, you never said it was, etc. etc.
Regards anyway,
Flash :)
Well it's accuracy is spot on but its not a news flash;)

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Mr. Barton, you're not going to like this.
It isn't anything profound and certainly I am one of those "never was" of the pool world. And this is MY OPINION ONLY.......(easily ignored, forgotten, and buried if you decide). However, I am one of the world's best railbirds/locksmiths and I can read faces, eyes, and body language like I had an x-ray machine into players' heads.
I have watched that full match between you and the "Lou guy" 5 times...analyzing, reversing the play back and forth,right down to many of the finer details.
Your use or non use of CTE had little to do with your losing that match. The ubiquitous "they" cannot hang that loss on Shuffett's system. In fact, I don't think you were even using it.
You lost because you were scared to death and did not concentrate on what you were doing. I will elaborate.....
1. Hurrying to the shot like it was going to disappear suddenly, instead of prowling that table like "Alex the Lion" does.
2. You did not stay down and follow through on your shots.
3. You demonstrated a cavalier attitude throughout. :confused: Poor concentration, talking to yourself, dancing around the table after a victory,.....these things will not work for you against a stone cold killer like "Lou guy". He was after your blood, my man. Even though you had him near the ropes a few times and he was sweating around the upper lip and constantly wiping his sweaty palms on his slacks......you, sir, missed all the tells. He has so many, it's like an open book into his head and yours are pretty revealing as well. I don't think either of you would last very long in poker. A good 'base runner' would rob you both in short order.
4. "Lou guy" knows more about the game of one pocket than you do. You need a lot of heat from strong opponents to learn the basic moves and shots.
5. I retract all my posts concerning any of my betting in any future matches (if they happen) between you and Lou. You won't win it.......unless you're spending 12-14 hours a day in training with a coach like Danny DeLiberto (as well as practicing your CTE).
Sorry to be so blunt...as I said, it's just what I noticed myself.
(Flame away.........but it was NOT a loss due to CTE Aiming Method and you didn't look fatigued to me)
I know, I know, you never said it was, etc. etc.
Regards anyway,
Flash :)

:-) I agree with everything you said. I wouldn't bet on me either if I were not me. And I have said repeatedly that CTE wasn't the problem even though Lou and others wanted desperately to cast it that way. (that's why Lou will NEVER play Stan)

As for not looking fatigued....I was pretty pumped full of adrenaline during the first part of the match due to my own stupidity for engaging someone I shouldn't have messed with.

Anyway, it's water under the bridge and 18 months later.

I have 20k to throw away and Lou is scared to come and get it even though he should not be.
 
I agree if it were possible to have match at DCC that would be awesome venue. Few months for everyone to get practiced up, get money straight or whatever. Would be tons of side action avail. And I could sweat & bet it☺

I'm sure Lou will be trying to cash again there's.bigger fish to add to the status plate than JB it's not always about the money
I'd much rather beat a named player for less then a no name for more , I'm sure Lou looks at it the same way

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