200+ Ball Runners

John Schmidt Apr 12, 1973 400
Grady Mathews Jan 3, 1943 326
Frank McGown Sept 27, 1933 288
Danny DiLiberto Feb 19, 1935 308
Ed Kelly May 17, 1938 229
Dallas West Aug 21, 1941 420
Nick Varner May 15, 1948 337
Mike Sigel July 11, 1953 339
Earl Strickland June 8, 1961 406
Ralf Souquet Nov 29, 1968 285
Oliver Ortmann June 17, 1967 326
Thomas Engert Oct 23, 1965 491
Allen Hopkins Nov 18, 1951 410
Jim Rempe Nov 4, 1947 340
Johnny Archer Nov 12, 1968 200
Jimmy Fusco July 5, 1948 216
Pat Fleming Nov 30, 1948 209
Thorsten Hohmann July 14, 1979 404
Pete Margo Oct 8, 1944 330
Bobby Hunter May 19, 1953 225
Danny Harriman Nov 1, 1972 236
Tom Storm Mar 18, 1965 269
Lou Butera May 15, 1937 267
Leil "JR" Gay June 18, 1958 313
Jose Garcia Apr 8, 1955 332
Marcus Chamet May 6, 1975 204
Alex Lely June 3, 1973 272
Jim Marino Sept 13, 1947 267
George Rood Nov 11, 1914 280
Mika Immonen Dec 17, 1972 267
Danny Barouty Mar 19, 1956 287
George SanSouci Aug 8, 1971 252
Tony Robles Apr 1, 1966 267
Niels Feijen Feb 3, 1977 259
Nick Van den Berg May 24, 1980 257
Daryl Peach Aug 3, 1972 273
Vilmos Foldes Dec 16, 1984 259
Mike Massey Apr 9, 1947 224

***Edited to add that I left plent of space between the names, D.O.B.'s and HRs but when it posted, they all run together. I tried spacing them out farther but to no avail. Sorry for the sloppy way it reads.

LOFL Terry. I was just about to ask how these players could have possibly made these runs on the dates you listed...until the brain kicked in and I realized it is their birthdays...:D
 
Dick Lane

Dick Lane has run over 200. I forget the exact # now - close to 300 or 400. Wow, that's big difference. :embarrassed2: Sorry I can't recall.
Having seen Dick play several times in the 70's, 300 or 400 balls made by him would have taken a loooong time. Great player though, just hard to watch.
 
Having seen Dick play several times in the 70's, 300 or 400 balls made by him would have taken a loooong time. Great player though, just hard to watch.

I just watched the 1992 Player review DVD of Dick Lane and Archer and it didn't take long for the 150 win, and that's with Johnny getting in the 100s also in the match. Or is two hours a long time for a close match race to 150?

Heck, I take two hours at league trying to reach 100, lmao!
 
Having seen Dick play several times in the 70's, 300 or 400 balls made by him would have taken a loooong time. Great player though, just hard to watch.

Actually, right now, he's still contemplating his next shot in the 2009 Predator World Straight Pool Championship. :p
 
We are working with two different lists here, and it's getting confusing as to which list people are responding to. The list to which this thread refers is contained in the 14.1 forum:

Living 200 + Ball Runners

Thanks,
Steve
 
Here are some for you.

Florian Hammer, GER 236
Ralph Eckert, GER 218
Christoph Reintjes, GER 256
Andreas Roschkowski, GER 237
Marko Vogel, GER 283
Kasper Thygesen, DEN 208
Jurgen Jenisy, AUT 210
Maximillian Lechner, AUT 294
Cetin Aslan, AUT 207
Artem Koshovyi, UKR 248
Philipp Stojanovic, CRO 210
Roman Hybler, CZE 279

Oh Bill, I just have to ask - do you have some level of knowledge of these players and would guess that all are capable of producing these runs?

Thanks,
Steve

I agree with Bill, these players are capable of making runs like this.

In your updated list in the 14-1 forum, have you considered adding the runs too?
 
I agree with Bill, these players are capable of making runs like this.

In your updated list in the 14-1 forum, have you considered adding the runs too?

Hi Roy. I haven't really decided. I guess I'm leaning towards eventually putting in the runs (once the list is fairly finalized), but there's a part of me that feels it's never accurate, so why bother? Runs are often wrong or outdated. Just including the names does what it sets out to - compile a list of the players alive who have done this thing.

I am just curious, as were others, how rare of an achievement this really is. I don't really need the exact numbers to answer that question. Still, I'll probably end up doing it ;)

- Steve
 
Here are some names I'm hoping other people can help with:

Abruzzo, John
Babica, Radoslaw
Bandy, Mike
Bustamante, Francisco
Carter, Jeff
Chavez, Ignacio
Dunsmore, Bill
Facquet, Vincent
Fisher, Pete
Fulcher, Johnni
Garrahan, Teddy
Glass, Walter
Hall, Buddy
Heidrich, Dan
Herring, Earl
Jentsch, Dominick
Kempter, Martin
Kiamco, Warren
Louie, Dan
Manalo, Marlon
Marrata, Mike
Mataya, Jimmy
McCready, Keith
Moore, Stevie
Nacovski, Scotty
Orcullo, Dennis
Reyes, Efren
Ruocco, Tommy
Sambajon, Santos
See, Huiji
Stalev, Evgeny
Stellman, Frank
Stepanov, Konstantin
Tascarella, Pete
Wilson, Mark

Thanks!

- Steve
 
There's One BIG NAME Missing

How in all of this has the name "Miz" been forgotten. I'd like to know what Mizerak's high run was, seeing as he wont he US Open straight pool tournament 5 times!! He was a phenomenal player and one of the smoothest ever.

As for Dominic Jenstch, I was at the Lucasi Hybrid event in Jacksonville in 2008 when he ran 150 and out against Santos Sambajon. Very impressive for such a young player.
 
How in all of this has the name "Miz" been forgotten. I'd like to know what Mizerak's high run was, seeing as he wont he US Open straight pool tournament 5 times!! He was a phenomenal player and one of the smoothest ever.

As for Dominic Jenstch, I was at the Lucasi Hybrid event in Jacksonville in 2008 when he ran 150 and out against Santos Sambajon. Very impressive for such a young player.

One bump for the work crowd...

Btw, Ray, Mr. Mizerak is no longer with us.

- Steve
 
There is NO CONCERN, whatsoever, from the pool governing bodies.
AZB seems like an ideal place to relight that torch. Maybe there could be a link from the home page to a database of players with verified runs of 200 or more. After such a run, the person could enter the details online (date, place, opponent, name of reputable witness(es), variables such as pocket size or playing with opposite hand ... ). A moderator could then review it, maybe contact the witness, and post it. Many high runs wouldn't make the database for a variety of reasons, but something like this would be a good start. My only request would be that the database does NOT include mention of the brand of cue. :rolleyes:
 
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AZB seems like an ideal place to relight that torch. Maybe there could be a link from the home page to a list of players with verified runs of 200 or more. After such a run, the person could enter the details online (date, place, opponent, name of reputable witness(es), variables such as pocket size or playing with opposite hand ... ). A moderator could then review it, maybe contact the witness, and post it. Many high runs wouldn't make to the list for a variety of reasons, but a somewhat official list like this would be a good start.

I got the idea from a site called Iron Mind that sells strength training gear. They have incredibly challenging grip trainers called Captains of Crush, and people who can close them under specified conditions can be listed on Iron Mind's Web site.

Back to the high run list, my only request would be that the list does NOT include mention of the brand of cue. :rolleyes:

Lol, you do NOT have to worry about that last part from me!
 
Eric, I understand and agree. My goal with the list is that it will be very comprehensive, and as such, there's bound to be some names on it that might not have actually done it.

- Steve

I hear ya, Steve. Unfortunately, if you wind up having even one fraud on the list, it makes the list's credibility somewhat suspect. I believe there is one on the list that shouldn't be there, based on what others that have known him for a long time have said, but I'm still going by second hand info.

On another note; what about Ed Kelly or Mike Sica?


Eric
 
whats up steve!

Hey guys. I know some of you don't venture into the 14.1 forum much, but a question arose there about how many 200+ ball runners are currently alive. I'm trying to put together a list and would appreciate some help from any of you who might have some good knowledge on the subject.

I'm especially looking for help on the international players, but there are many people from the states who I can't move from the "possibles" list to the "confirmed" list until someone chimes in and can vouch for a run.

Living 200 + Runners

Thanks in advance,
Steve

Well im a 200+ball runner! I have run over 200 balls a couple of times in my life and did it to Dave Daya last year at Big Daddy"s. I love the game but nobody ever wants to gamble at it so i stopped playing it right after that. Dave Daya is like the only guy i ever gamble at str8 pool with because he has alot of HEART!!! So count me in as a 200 + ball runner
 
John Schmidt Apr 12, 1973 400
Grady Mathews Jan 3, 1943 326
Frank McGown Sept 27, 1933 288
Danny DiLiberto Feb 19, 1935 308
Ed Kelly May 17, 1938 229
Dallas West Aug 21, 1941 420
Nick Varner May 15, 1948 337
Mike Sigel July 11, 1953 339
Earl Strickland June 8, 1961 406
Ralf Souquet Nov 29, 1968 285
Oliver Ortmann June 17, 1967 326
Thomas Engert Oct 23, 1965 491
Allen Hopkins Nov 18, 1951 410
Jim Rempe Nov 4, 1947 340
Johnny Archer Nov 12, 1968 200
Jimmy Fusco July 5, 1948 216
Pat Fleming Nov 30, 1948 209
Thorsten Hohmann July 14, 1979 404
Pete Margo Oct 8, 1944 330
Bobby Hunter May 19, 1953 225
Danny Harriman Nov 1, 1972 236
Tom Storm Mar 18, 1965 269
Lou Butera May 15, 1937 267
Leil "JR" Gay June 18, 1958 313
Jose Garcia Apr 8, 1955 332
Marcus Chamet May 6, 1975 204
Alex Lely June 3, 1973 272
Jim Marino Sept 13, 1947 267
George Rood Nov 11, 1914 280
Mika Immonen Dec 17, 1972 267
Danny Barouty Mar 19, 1956 287
George SanSouci Aug 8, 1971 252
Tony Robles Apr 1, 1966 267
Niels Feijen Feb 3, 1977 259
Nick Van den Berg May 24, 1980 257
Daryl Peach Aug 3, 1972 273
Vilmos Foldes Dec 16, 1984 259
Mike Massey Apr 9, 1947 224

***Edited to add that I left plent of space between the names, D.O.B.'s and HRs but when it posted, they all run together. I tried spacing them out farther but to no avail. Sorry for the sloppy way it reads.

May 28, 1975 (219)
 
Good pace

I just watched the 1992 Player review DVD of Dick Lane and Archer and it didn't take long for the 150 win, and that's with Johnny getting in the 100s also in the match. Or is two hours a long time for a close match race to 150?

Heck, I take two hours at league trying to reach 100, lmao!
I'd say thats was a good pace for that many balls made between the two of them. I remember a nine ball tournament where Billy Weir drew Dick in the first round and went up to the tournament director and told him he wanted to forfeit that match and go to the one loss side. He felt Dick's slow play would mess with his head and he had a better chance coming through the back side. Many pool players didn't like drawing Dick Lane for two reasons. He's a great player but his pace makes them skerm in their seats.:smile: Dick has made the top of some polls over the years for slow play.
 
Here are some names I'm hoping other people can help with:

Abruzzo, John
Babica, Radoslaw
Bandy, Mike
Bustamante, Francisco
Carter, Jeff
Chavez, Ignacio
Dunsmore, Bill
Facquet, Vincent
Fisher, Pete
Fulcher, Johnni
Garrahan, Teddy
Glass, Walter
Hall, Buddy
Heidrich, Dan
Herring, Earl
Jentsch, Dominick
Kempter, Martin
Kiamco, Warren
Louie, Dan
Manalo, Marlon
Marrata, Mike
Mataya, Jimmy
McCready, Keith
Moore, Stevie
Nacovski, Scotty
Orcullo, Dennis
Reyes, Efren
Ruocco, Tommy
Sambajon, Santos
See, Huiji
Stalev, Evgeny
Stellman, Frank
Stepanov, Konstantin
Tascarella, Pete
Wilson, Mark

Thanks!

- Steve

Teddy Garrahan ran over 250 in practice about 5 or 6 years ago in Crown billiards. Was witnessed by at least 6 people.
 
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