2007 DCC AZB Room - Conversation with Greg S. - Need member input

boradriver said:
#2. Can someone design the badges for us??? I would think we could use the great job and artwork Sizl did on the banners.



I think their is just to much going on in the banner for the detail to be distinguished in such a small area as a "badge". We could definitely use the basic design, but as I said we would lose the detail.
Thanks for the compliment!
 
NaClBandit said:
LEE vs. BREEDLOVE
...loser sleeps on the couch

EVA LAURANCE vs. JIMMY MATAYA
...unfinished business

SCHMIDT vs. ARIEH
...pool, poker, penis dangling, etc

GRADY vs. CHARLIE WILLIAMS
...cage match

Good ones! ROFL :p
 
Don,
I think the sooner you set something up the better. All these people saying they will donate this and put me down for this much $$$$ really is a waste of a post. I trust Don. Set up an account. Let people put the $$$ in there now. You might be surprised how much you get in 4-6 months and can really plan do something big. What if you got $5000/$10,000? Then you could get the Pro match you are looking for. If someone wants to donate something that is non pool related for a raffle, send it to Don or someone else that can store it til the DCC. No sense in someone saying now they own an electronics store & want to donate a TV. The DCC is so far away it would be hard to keep track on who is donating what without physically having it in hand.
Also, maybe some of the pro's that are friendly to AZBilliards would be willing to donate something like their time instead of an actual object to raffle off. A lot of people come on here saying they are friends with this pro, etc. You could raffle off "Win a lunch date with a pro at the DCC".
 
watchez said:
Don,
I think the sooner you set something up the better. All these people saying they will donate this and put me down for this much $$$$ really is a waste of a post.
Also, maybe some of the pro's that are friendly to AZBilliards would be willing to donate something like their time instead of an actual object to raffle off. A lot of people come on here saying they are friends with this pro, etc. You could raffle off "Win a lunch date with a pro at the DCC".

Watchez,
EXCELLENT ideas!!

As soon as we decide on the minimum donation necessary for playing privileges (and hopefully some type of incentive program to encourage donations above the minimum) I will personally PM all people who have pledged.

Just a note that last year about 80% of people that pledged actually sent money. In addition, of the 10 or so "latecomers" who said they would find me and pay me at DCC; only 2 actually did. I am DEFINITELY in favor of doing EVERYTHING possible in advance - the DCC week is just too hectic to be trying to collect money. Most of our events however, will probably require last minute tweaking because of the uncertain scheduling for the tournament players.

I REALLY like your "lunch with a pro" idea. I hope those members that know pro's will look into this. It would be ideal if we could have the "winner" pay for the meal also. I know a couple of very high profile pro's; so I'll start investigations into seeing if they would be intersted in a "free meal" with an internet stalker.....errrr.....internet pool fan. On second thought, we might have to have chaperones:) :) .
 
watchez said:
If someone wants to donate something that is non pool related for a raffle, send it to Don or someone else that can store it til the DCC. No sense in someone saying now they own an electronics store & want to donate a TV.
When I suggested the raffles, both pool related and non-pool related, I meant for them to start happening shortly, not waiting until the DCC. If someone wants to donate a tv, they should keep it, let the raffle begin, the money sent in, and then whoever collected the money for the raffle could send the shipping charges to the donator so that they can ship it to he winner.

The earlier we start these, the better. I'd say within the next month or so. The logistics of it all & who is going to take care of it, etc will need to be talked about between WBM, Steve and myself.
 
Coached one-pocket

How about a raffle to see who plays in a coached one-pocket match.
the two winners will each be given a professional coach(read pro player) who will dictate every shot to the shooter. It'd be a great learning experience and a heck of a lot of fun.
 
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How about quality custom Golf logo towels. Have the AZ, Onepocket.org and DCC logo 2007 embroidered on them. As an extra spiff only for people that donate X amount before say September, that would give time to get them manufactured before DCC. They are handy to keep in or on your pool case.

Just one company link to show what I mean.
http://www.logosoftwear.com/product/4390

And actually they would be good for golf. A friend plays with a DCC windbreaker and on the golf course it is really cool.
 
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BazookaJoe said:
How about a raffle to see who plays in a coached one-pocket match.
the two winners will each be given a professional coach(read pro player) who they will dictate every shot to the shooter. It'd be a great learning experience and a heck of a lot of fun.

BazookaJoe,
I like it. We could get two of the old masters/HOF guys (?Danny D., Grady M., Ronnie A.???). How much would you envision going to the pro's, how much to the amateur (we have to make it interesting enough for the pro's to do it)?
 
Williebetmore said:
BazookaJoe,
I like it. We could get two of the old masters/HOF guys (?Danny D., Grady M., Ronnie A.???). How much would you envision going to the pro's, how much to the amateur (we have to make it interesting enough for the pro's to do it)?

I'd say the lion's share goes to the pros. Maybe 70/30. If I were a shooter, they could have all of it.

Rail betting would be a whole lot of fun too.
Well.........Diliberto is calling his shots. But can Joe execute?
 
BazookaJoe said:
I'd say the lion's share goes to the pros. Maybe 70/30. If I were a shooter, they could have all of it.

Rail betting would be a whole lot of fun too.
Well.........Diliberto is calling his shots. But can Joe execute?

I'll buy raffle tickets for that event!
 
Input

#1. Do we want 2 tables (which entails 2 SEPARATE rooms - though they are next to each other)??? I think that 2 tables is an excellent idea. I would be more than happy to contribute again. We could really make next years event awesome. Maybe use one table in one of the rooms a ca$h table and the other one for those less inclined to wager?? Just a thought. We could have several AZ mini tourneys to go along with the DCC.. Depending on which game was being played at the DCC. Sounds great..

#2. Can someone design the badges for us??? Any graphic design freaks that want to volunteer just post here and PM me also.
I would be willing to help out in this area. I do quite a bit of graphic design.. Sizl did an excellent job on the AZ banner this year, he is more than qualified... BTW, thanks for doign that sizl..

#3. Any fund-raising/sponsorship ideas???
A raffle is a great idea. If we start now, we could surely get some of the cuemakers, casemakers etc.. to donate one of their products for the raffle.. We have a large community to pull from. Maybe even get Accu-stats to donate some DVD's from 2006 DCC to the raffle.. Lots of good ideas already mentioned before mine.

#4. Refreshment ideas??? We CAN'T afford the hotel rates, we CAN'T cater it in. We COULD have soda's and snacks brought in privately and discreetly if there are volunteers to do the leg work.
I would be willing to donate to this cause as well... If everyone participating chips in a 12 pack of their favorite soda, water, snacks etc.. We would have more than enough.. Watch out for the freeloaders:D :D

5. Special Event ideas?? I don't think we can afford a Pagulayan-Schmidt 14.1 re-match this time around (though I could be wrong - its happened at least once). I think we could definitely swing a rotation match between Efren Reyes and a prominent pro (to be approved by Accu-Stats/BCN). We could also take a $1000 and stake a match or 2 if we can find a "horse", we could make a big challenge out of it and play it on the t.v. table (though not for Accu-Stats). If we don't get dumped, we could even make money on the deal. We can charge a nominal ($5-$10) admission if we choose, then use the money for prizes.
Don, you have some great ideas here.. Our opportunities are endless.. Looking forward to DCC 2007
 
Williebetmore said:
BazookaJoe,
I like it. We could get two of the old masters/HOF guys (?Danny D., Grady M., Ronnie A.???). How much would you envision going to the pro's, how much to the amateur (we have to make it interesting enough for the pro's to do it)?
I could certainly help in contacting any of the One Pocket HOF guys. I think this is a great idea!

A raffle for this opportunity might want to sell chances at say, two chances for $5; 10 chances for $20; fifty for $50, or somehting progressive like that so that those who REALLY want to get in on that opportunity have a chance to donate a little extra :) and also stand a better chance of winning. Just a thought.

By the way -- don't forget little old OnePocket.org in your graphic design :) if the graphics relate to the room in general. I am assuming we would be involved again next year; it sure seemed to work out great this year!

I have an idea for a One Pocket 'clinic' that might involve several One Pocket HOF guys in kind of a debate format -- I touched base with a few guys this year about the idea and they seemed receptive (and so did Pat Fleming). With a year to plan I think a really interesting, informative and of course ENTERTAINING format could be worked out.
 
1pocket said:
By the way -- don't forget little old OnePocket.org in your graphic design :) if the graphics relate to the room in general. I am assuming we would be involved again next year; it sure seemed to work out great this year!

I have an idea for a One Pocket 'clinic' that might involve several One Pocket HOF guys in kind of a debate format

SB,
While I am always referring to "the AZB room" I do so only for convenience sake (I'm a lazy procrastinator at heart). We are DEFINITELY including the onepocket.org crew as we did this past year. I really don't have a lot of extra time to scan your site daily; but as we formulate anything "official" I will try to post on your site as well. I appreciate your help in keeping the onepocket.org members updated as well.

I'm in the process of devoting some practice/competition time to onepocket this year, so it's possible I will be spending more time "over there" during the coming year.
 
Don, I'm not sure we need two tables. While the tables did stay busy virtually 24/7, I have been wondering if there was another way for the tables to better utilized. One of the best things a player can do is warm up right before a match. Most of the regular playing tables are tied up during the tournament and the ability to come into the AZ room and ask if it all right to warm up on the table for 30 minutes is priceless.

It was fun meeting RSBers and even getting spanked by Martin playing one pocket I think it would have been more fun to watch a little gambling or to do some cheap gambling. It gives us bragging or yelping rights for a year.

T-SHIRTS: AZ should start a thread on this right away. The shirts could be sold all year long. For the hustlers (there is one in every one of us), these shirts could draw fish in so close you could virtually count their bankroll. I see attractive multi-color shirts but .... nvever mind I will save it for another thread..... Could be a good cash cow......


As to paying to have a match staged for AZ billiards, I would just as soon pool our monies together and stake one of the pool players we think that could make a score. A like mercenaries like Marquez. Guys like him may not like us staking him. I've watched him play a few times over the years (gambling) and he won or broke even every time. I like his determination as well as his talent but his determination is awesome. Anyway, I would prefer to stake a pool player instead of pay for a staged match. Heck, how much would it cost to bring in a Niels Feijen or some other top performer, maybe from China or the good old US of A. Pick an underdog against a top dog and you can get good odds on your money or even better, weight or a handicap. I don't know about the rest of you but when people get to talking about action, it starts to make my blood boil. I like everyone else hate thinking their is any chance of getting dumped and I would not want to stake a player who has ever dumped even once. Maybe too we could talk with one of the overseas players and pay for their visit, necessities and tournament fees and have them return a portion of the winnings if any.

A. STAKING A MATCH FOR BOTH PLAYERS
B. STAKING A GAMBLING MATCH FOR A TRUSTABLE POOL PLAYER
c. STAKING THE TRIP TO THE DCC FOR A PLAYER WHO COULD WIN US SOME MONEY AND GLORY, SINCE we don't seem to be able to do it on our own (except for Mike Templeton) :-) Seriously, good show Mike.

I just don't see it being any fun paying two pros to play each other. Heck, we can do that for free. I want to risk something and have a chance to win something. The celebrity thing was just fine even if "The Don" made sure his number was picked. That's what they call him isn't it, "The Don".

If we decide to stake a player we have all year to woof up a match so that there is a full blown frenzy.

I would like to know how many professional pool players would like to have their expenses paid for by AZ billiards in lieu of splitting any of their winnings right down the middle. The overseas guys would have time to obtain their visas and the Americanos could get into stroke for the big one. A while back some of us on RSB got together and I collected about $600 maybe $700 I forget. We were going to pay the expenses for a player to come and be our champion. With only that small amount of money it wasn't enough to cover all of the expenses so I tore up all of the checks when more money wasn't forthcoming. All participants had ponied up for a cool $100 each. You do the math. Anyway there are lots of possibilities and discussing them is a great way to figure out which is best.

I am a team player and will go whichever direction the collective wisdom of RSB goes, except did I say I am not keen about paying two pros to duke it out on our behalf. I would pay to have ONE pro beat another senseless on the field of green, though.

Warm Regards,
JoeyA



Williebetmore said:
I was able to speak with Greg S. yesterday regarding the past and present AZB room issues. I thanked him for allowing us a great experience this year. He wanted to especially thank OHB for getting the whole thing started (my thanks to OHB too:) ).

Greg would be willing to let us have 2 tables next year, but feels that because of the lighting trusses we can NOT fit them in one room. He will give us the 2 rooms at the right and left ends of the hallway. Cost will be $2,000 (the cost of room rental - he will be providing the tables for FREE).

He very much liked us having at least some semblance of monitoring the rooms, what we did this year would be adequate.

He will work with us to get an official DCC nametag (probably a special gold color) JUST for AZB'ers. We can design it ourselves (same size as the DCC badges); we can have one or two sided designs; it will have the member's picture, handle, and real name on it - and will be distributed at the tournament desk along with your admission/players badge to the tournament itself. Cool. Greg's idea not mine.

He does NOT want us to have sponsors that are in any way competing with the vendor's (no cue maker's for instance). There may, however be other ways to raise money (other raffles, T-shirts, sponsors other than equipment sellers, etc.); so get creative and see what we can come up with - we will check ALL ideas with Greg first to make sure he approves.

He loved the Celebrity Tournament Raffle event; and very much likes the events spilling over into the tournament room. We can probably do it again - if anyone knows pro's that might participate; let me know. We could possibly convince JL & ER to do it again; but I hesitate to impose further unless demand is high.

He would appreciate VERY MUCH if we can attempt a "Special Event" as we discussed; for all of the reasons we discussed. We can charge admission to the television area if we wish for a late night event (though we will have to provide the staff). He was VERY appreciative of Bob Jewett's efforts, and if there is any way we could help support the 14.1 event (personnel or finances) he would be grateful.

So here are the questions on which the committee would like feedback:

#1. Do we want 2 tables (which entails 2 SEPARATE rooms - though they are next to each other)??? I love the camaraderie that 1 room affords; but unless someone here has a lighting solution (any table/light mechs out there??) it will have to be 2 rooms. More expense, less togetherness, more opportunity to play, more chance to miss something.

#2. Can someone design the badges for us??? Any graphic design freaks that want to volunteer just post here and PM me also.

#3. Any fund-raising/sponsorship ideas??? Our idea is to require a similar donation to last year for playing privileges ($25-$35), then use the extra money generated to provide refreshments first, then the prize fund. We will auction the banner soon. We may want to give special treatment to those donating extra (like a special Celebrity match, done gratis by a very prominent pro, with one of the members who have donated above and beyond the minimum).

#4. Refreshment ideas??? We CAN'T afford the hotel rates, we CAN'T cater it in. We COULD have soda's and snacks brought in privately and discreetly if there are volunteers to do the leg work.

5. Special Event ideas?? I don't think we can afford a Pagulayan-Schmidt 14.1 re-match this time around (though I could be wrong - its happened at least once). I think we could definitely swing a rotation match between Efren Reyes and a prominent pro (to be approved by Accu-Stats/BCN). We could also take a $1000 and stake a match or 2 if we can find a "horse", we could make a big challenge out of it and play it on the t.v. table (though not for Accu-Stats). If we don't get dumped, we could even make money on the deal. We can charge a nominal ($5-$10) admission if we choose, then use the money for prizes.


There is plenty of time before next year; but PLEASE don't volunteer for anything unless you will DEFINITELY do it as promised. Thanks,

Gang of Three
 
frankncali said:
I like the T-shirt idea and I think it would be good to setup a few types.
I believe their are places on the net like Cafepress that offer print to order
service with no inventory cost and zero upfront cost. Its a little less profitable but its very easy to use. I am not that familiar with the site or ones like it but can look into it. If not then unless someone knows someone there will be upfront money.

frankncali

I have a CafePress account, and use them to do my team's shirts every season. It is not difficult at all to set-up an account there, specifically for AZB. There is absolutely no upfront or set-up costs. They charge you near retail for the blank shirts, but you can put a modest mark-up on them if you like. When I was selling my Sportster shirts, I would mark-up 2.50 to 5.00, depending on shirt or sweatshirt. The higher the cost on the shirt/sweatshirt, the lower my mark-up was.

The really nice thing about CafePress is that they are made to order, so no minimum. They just recently went to 'direct printing' as opposed to 'heat transfers' of the past. The 'direct printing' actually imbeds (sp?) the ink into the fibers of the fabric, and is very much like screenprinting, and just as durable. Unless we have a screenprinter here, then this would be the way to go. The have AWESOME customer service as well. One year my shirts came out all funky with a green tint. I emailed them, and next thing I knew, they had replaced the entire order, shipping included. All they asked for was one shirt back for training purposes. Pretty cool.

Lisa
 
JoeyA said:
Most of the regular playing tables are tied up during the tournament and the ability to come into the AZ room and ask if it all right to warm up on the table for 30 minutes is priceless.

T-SHIRTS: Could be a good cash cow......


As to paying to have a match staged for AZ billiards, I would just as soon pool our monies together and stake one of the pool players we think that could make a score. A like mercenaries like Marquez. Guys like him may not like us staking him. ...I would not want to stake a player who has ever dumped even once. Maybe too we could talk with one of the overseas players and pay for their visit, necessities and tournament fees and have them return a portion of the winnings if any.

A. STAKING A MATCH FOR BOTH PLAYERS
B. STAKING A GAMBLING MATCH FOR A TRUSTABLE POOL PLAYER
c. STAKING THE TRIP TO THE DCC FOR A PLAYER WHO COULD WIN US SOME MONEY AND GLORY, SINCE we don't seem to be able to do it on our own (except for Mike Templeton) :-) Seriously, good show Mike.

I just don't see it being any fun paying two pros to play each other. ...
If we decide to stake a player we have all year to woof up a match so that there is a full blown frenzy.

I would like to know how many professional pool players would like to have their expenses paid for by AZ billiards in lieu of splitting any of their winnings right down the middle. ..did I say I am not keen about paying two pros to duke it out on our behalf. I would pay to have ONE pro beat another senseless on the field of green, though.

Warm Regards,
JoeyA

JoeyA,
I think you have some good idea's Joey.

Do we have any T-shirt experts here; PM me immediately if you're here. If not, I will start to look into T-shirt/golf shirts with screened logo's (who has a logo for me??????).

I LIKE the idea of backing a player. I am NOT sure we could get someone to do it - the real warriors use their own money (ie. George Breedlove). How could we ever know if we are getting dumped (especially if there is a long period of time before the matches)???

The main reason for sponsoring an Accu-Stats match was to "pay back" Greg Sullivan by helping add something to his event. I'm not sure he would feel the same way about us backing a player (but he might, I'll ask).

Who here knows a warrior that might want backing? I figure $800 for hotel, plus a $1000 bankroll would be a conservative starting offer that we could afford. It seems like small potatoes though for any of the warriors that I know. Do you know Marco Marquez? I think there are people here that know Charlie Bryant, George Breedlove, Corey Deuel, Sarah Rousey, Danny Harriman - would any of these be possibilities???
 
Williebetmore said:
It seems like small potatoes though for any of the warriors that I know. Do you know Marco Marquez? I think there are people here that know Charlie Bryant, George Breedlove, Corey Deuel, Sarah Rousey, Danny Harriman - would any of these be possibilities???
Charlie has sponsorship, George has Jeanette :p , and Corey has Aaron. Sarah has a lot of heart and Danny would NOT dump on us. If we do go this route, Sarah & Danny are two names that I would put into the hat to draw from. ;)
 
Egads ...

This sounds like a 'production company' in the making ... lol By the time you get done, the IPT won't have anything over on you ... ROFL I think you all are just a bunch of 'Closet Party Animals' ....:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
ridewiththewind said:
I have a CafePress account, and use them to do my team's shirts every season. It is not difficult at all to set-up an account there, specifically for AZB. There is absolutely no upfront or set-up costs. They charge you near retail for the blank shirts, but you can put a modest mark-up on them if you like. When I was selling my Sportster shirts, I would mark-up 2.50 to 5.00, depending on shirt or sweatshirt. The higher the cost on the shirt/sweatshirt, the lower my mark-up was.

The really nice thing about CafePress is that they are made to order, so no minimum. They just recently went to 'direct printing' as opposed to 'heat transfers' of the past. The 'direct printing' actually imbeds (sp?) the ink into the fibers of the fabric, and is very much like screenprinting, and just as durable. Unless we have a screenprinter here, then this would be the way to go. The have AWESOME customer service as well. One year my shirts came out all funky with a green tint. I emailed them, and next thing I knew, they had replaced the entire order, shipping included. All they asked for was one shirt back for training purposes. Pretty cool.

Lisa

I have a Cafepress account too. See sample here: http://www.cafepress.com/bumpersnickers

I work on each category when I have time, so they are not all done by any means, but you can get an idea of what is available, like kid's stuff, mugs, bumper stickers, thongs, even dog sweaters, etc.. Black is harder to do because you have to have a transparency and I have not done one yet. But you can send me the graphics and I can volunteer to get the shirts done with no markup.

You can sell them with a markup to raise money or get them wholesale. I will set up a separate 'AZ/ 1P.org' store and make up any number of finished items that we can either get at wholesale (buy them up front from the website and sell them at DCC marked up), or we can mark them up to whatever price you want to designate, and have people go up there to buy the shirts at retail. I can set it up so that williebetmore gets the funds. Just let me know what you want to do.

You can go here to see the total kinds of products available. http://www.cafepress.com/cp/info/sell/products/

We could even bind a book with selections of some of our favorite threads, avatars, tips, instructions and jokes to sell, and one for 1p. Even Tina's thread with selected photos of everyone. Again, I could collate and get them printed and have anyone you choose do the final proofing. I would think these would be priceless! :p ;) :rolleyes: :eek: :confused: :D This would need Mike's permission if it is copyrighted material or proprietary.

I can set up the shop name and show you a shell, just let me know what you want it named.

________________________________________________________________

Another donation I want to give is a complimentary cruise that can be raffled off. It is complimentary, not free. That means that the winner would be responsible for airfare to get to the port, and taxes and port fees - usually $149-$249 per person.

Complimentary Carnival Cruise
You will receive a 4 Day fun-filled cruise for two adults aboard one of four Carnival “Fun Ships”.

Your Carnival Cruise Agenda

4 day/3 night Cruise to the Bahamas or Mexico

Your choice of Fun Ship and departure city -

· The Holiday - Roundtrip from Los Angeles, California to Ensenada, Mexico
· The Ecstasy - Roundtrip from Miami, Florida to the Bahamas
· The Fantasy - Roundtrip from Port Canaveral, Florida to the Bahamas
· The Celebration – Roundtrip From Galveston, TX to Cozumel

Day 1 - Board your cruise ship and get acquainted with your surroundings. Situate yourself on deck to participate in the Bon Voyage party. In the evening you will have your first gourmet meal in the luxurious dining room. Afterward, the curtain goes up on your first showing of Vegas-style entertainment. Try your luck at the casino, or go dancing in the ship’s disco. Sit and enjoy the ocean breeze while listening to soft music, or take a refreshing stroll on the deck. Don’t forget to satisfy your midnight craving with a delicious snack from the buffet. FUN, FUN, FUN!

Day 2 - You arrive at the port where you will be able to explore your exotic destination. Feeling adventurous? Travel at your own leisure or take a guided tour to sightsee the area’s points of interest. Shop duty-free stores or hunt bargains from sidewalk merchants selling local crafts. Many of the ports offer a variety of water sports such as snorkeling and boating. The white, sandy beaches are open to the public for romantic walks, building sand castles, or wading in the sparkling water. By evening, you will be ready for the Captain’s Cocktail Party and dinner on board the vessel.

Day 3 - Participate in a variety of shipboard activities from music, to games, to exercise classes. There are special, separate programs designed by your Cruise Director for toddlers through teenagers. You may swim in the ship’s pool, or simply lounge on deck under the warm sun. Enjoy your final gourmet dinner, perhaps a Broadway musical, or give Lady Luck one last try in the exciting, Vegas-style casino. For a more romantic finale, stroll on the deck under the captivating moonlight while listening to the soothing sounds of the ocean’s splashing waves.

Day 4 - Say goodbye to new friends at the dock, and depart the vessel with delightful memories of your Carnival voyage.

This should raise enough money for some good food or for the shirts if you wanted to buy them up front.

Linda
 
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