2014 World champs 1st prize $458,000 USD
- Thread starter Slasher
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Not sure what your point is 147's dont prove much however league matches don't get recorded but there are plenty of amateurs that make maximums, one of the youngest I remember was 16 and Judd Trump made one at 14, search any of the league tables and you will see lots of players with big centuries and bare in mind league matches are one frame.
Having lived half my life in the UK I have been around the pro and amateur game long enough to know the standard and it is tough. When you see that a player the caliber of Hendry had to go to qualifying school
You know it's not going to be easy.
Davis is 55 years old now. Do you think the majority of snooker experts would say that he plays as well now as he did in the 1980's and 1990's? If so, have any other snooker champions played as well in their mid-50's as they did in their 20's and 30's?
If anyone is really interested, Stuart Pettman (the former snooker pro who made the 117-ball highest run at the Derby City 10-footer 14.1 Challenge last year) wrote a book called "As Sometimes Seen on TV" about the ups and downs of trying to make it as a professional snooker player.
http://www.prosnookerblog.com/shop/books/stuart-pettman-as-sometimes-seen-on-tv-book/
It's a great read and it gives insight into the pro snooker scene and shows the cruel reality of how tough it really is to play snooker for a living.
http://www.prosnookerblog.com/shop/books/stuart-pettman-as-sometimes-seen-on-tv-book/
It's a great read and it gives insight into the pro snooker scene and shows the cruel reality of how tough it really is to play snooker for a living.
Maybe not as consistent but ask John Higgins how Davis plays when he is on as he put him out of the worlds not long back.
I think a good start would be to play in the US National Snooker Championships which will be in Houston over Memorial Day weekend. The winner and runner-up from that tournament will be seeded into the IBSF World Championships (amateur).
Info on entering is available at: http://snookerusa.com
Bob Jewett
US Snooker Association Treasurer
I have heard this event quoted a few times and I did watch it once and was embarrassed for Davis he played so bad or maybe was instructed to play that bad whatever the case it is not indicative of the standard and Davis cannot even get through the qualifiers these days and he plays as good as he ever did.
I would have beat Davis if he played like that
I can't imagine he still plays as well as he used to, but I could be wrong.
There is no doubt that the standard of play has gone way up in the past twenty to thirty years. When I watch some clips of Alex Higgins playing from back in the day and pay attention to his cueing action it reminds me of many of today's pool players. Today's snooker players all have very good fundamentals and this is why I think the breaks are much better than they were not too long ago.
The standard of play is just ridiculous.
It only costs £1,000 to enter Q School
http://www.worldsnookerqschool.com/guide-to-q-school
Plus:
Travel
Food
Lodging
Upgrading playing wardrobe to competition standards
True enough, he probably just has his good days. Davis was never a one visit frame killer, his safety was just better than all the rest so he got and often needed more than one chance to kill off a frame.
The game changed though, Hendry was the one visit frame killer and Davis could not handle his long game or all round for that matter.
Now if you watch the clip I posted in the OP you will see that young players like Jack Lisowski are fearless potting machines and there are more and more young Asian players coming up that are not far behind, tough tough game now.
2011 UK Championship
Steve Davis vs Ronnie O'Sullivan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zMqs0pp0PI
BBC
3.5 hrs
I don't have time to watch this now and I wasn't really saying that I don't think he couldn't still have flashes of brilliance. I was just guessing that if you really looked at his game (breaks, potting percentages, and whatever other stats snooker folks look at) it wouldn't be as strong as it was in the past.
I guess I could be totally wrong. It would be a bit surprising to hear though. If you are telling me that Steve Davis is playing snooker as well as he ever has I will have to take your word for it, since you obviously know more about snooker than I do. I would like to see some stats to back that up though.
I do think there is this popular idea that athletes all slow down as they get older. Over here they say, "they lose a step". I've always thought that it wasn't that simple. I think in high contact sports players certainly slow down with age, but what is overlooked is how much better the younger generation of players always are than those that proceeded them. This constant improvement in all of sports makes the older generation appear to be slowing down much more so than they actually are.
I have heard this event quoted a few times and I did watch it once and was embarrassed for Davis he played so bad or maybe was instructed to play that bad whatever the case it is not indicative of the standard and Davis cannot even get through the qualifiers these days and he plays as good as he ever did.
I would have beat Davis if he played like that
Just what are you trying to say here? (the bolded part of your post)
Well, I was just going to sign up for Q School, but it turns out that "school" is just three qualifying tournaments. But I suppose some players will get schooled.:smile:
Steve Davis on Q School
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU0SFlr5RIA
The 2014 Payoff
Prize money breakdowns for each of the main events are as follows. Where relevant, figures for 2012/13 are in brackets.
Wuxi Classic
Winner £80,000 (£75,000)
Runner-up £35,000 (£30,000)
Semi-finals £20,000 (£18,000)
Quarter-finals £11,500 (£10,000)
Last 16 £8,000 (£7,500)
Last 32 £6,500 (£6,000)
Last 64 £3,000 (£1,500)
Last 128 £0
High break (Finals) £2,000 (£2,000)
High break (Qualifiers) £0 (£200)
Total £467,000 (£400,000)
Goldfields Australian Open
Winner $70,000 ($70,000)
Runner-up $30,000 ($30,000)
Semi-finals $20,000 ($20,000)
Quarter-finals $15,000 ($15,000)
Last 16 $10,000 ($10,000)
Last 32 $7,500 ($7,500)
Last 48 $1,600 ($2,000)
Last 64 $750 ($0)
Last 96 $150 ($0)
Last 128 $0
High break (Finals) $2,500 ($2,500)
High break (Qualifiers) $100 ($500)
Total $445,000 ($435,000)
Shanghai Masters
Winner £80,000 (£75,000)
Runner-up £35,000 (£30,000)
Semi-finals £19,500 (£18,000)
Quarter-finals £11,000 (£10,000)
Last 16 £7,500 (£7,500)
Last 32 £6,000 (£6,000)
Last 48 £2,300 (£2,300)
Last 64 £1,500 (£1,500)
Last 96 £250 (£0)
Last 128 £0
High break (Finals) £2,000 (£2,000)
High break (Qualifiers) £200 (£200)
Total £425,000 (£400,000)
International Championship
Winner £125,000 (£125,000)
Runner-up £65,000 (£62,500)
Semi-finals £30,000 (£30,000)
Quarter-finals £17,500 (£17,500)
Last 16 £12,000 (£12,000)
Last 32 £7,000 (£7,000)
Last 64 £3,000 (£1,500)
Last 128 £0
High break (Finals) £1,000 (£2,000)
High break (Qualifiers) £0 (£500)
Total £625,000 (£600,000)
UK Championship
Winner £150,000 (£125,000)
Runner-up £70,00 (£50,000)
Semi-finals £30,000 (£25,000)
Quarter-finals £20,000 (£17,000)
Last 16 £12,000 (£11,000)
Last 32 £9,000 (£7,500)
Last 64 £3,000 (£2,000)
Last 128 £0
High break (Finals) £4,000 (£3,500)
High break (Qualifiers) £0 (£500)
Total £700,000 (£625,000)
German Masters
Winner €80,000 (€60,000)
Runner-up €35,000 (€32,000)
Semi-finals €20,000 (€16,000)
Quarter-finals €10,000 (€9,000)
Last 16 €5,000 (€4,500)
Last 32 €3,000 (€2,750)
Last 64 €1,500 (€1,500)
Last 128 €0
High break (Finals) €4,000 (€2,000)
High break (Qualifiers) €0 (€0)
Total €335,000 (€300,000)
Welsh Open
Winner £60,000 (£50,000)
Runner-up £30,000 (£30,000)
Semi-finals £20,000 (£16,000)
Quarter-finals £10,000 (£10,000)
Last 16 £5,000 (£4,000)
Last 32 £2,500 (£2,000)
Last 64 £1,500 (£1,000)
Last 128 £0
High break (Finals) £2,000 (£2,000)
High break (Qualifiers) £0 (£0)
Total £300,000 (£250,000)
Haikou World Open
Winner £85,000 (£85,000)
Runner-up £35,000 (£35,000)
Semi-finals £21,000 (£20,000)
Quarter-finals £12,500 (£11,000)
Last 16 £8,000 (£7,500)
Last 32 £6,500 (£6,000)
Last 64 £3,000 (£1,500)
Last 128 £0
High break (Finals) £2,000 (£3,500)
High break (Qualifiers) £0 (£700)
Total £478,000 (£425,000)
China Open
Winner £85,000 (£85,000)
Runner-up £35,000 (£35,000)
Semi-finals £21,000 (£20,000)
Quarter-finals £12,500 (£11,000)
Last 16 £8,000 (£7,500)
Last 32 £6,500 (£6,000)
Last 64 £3,000 (£1,500)
Last 128 £0
High break (Finals) £2,000 (£3,500)
High break (Qualifiers) £0 (£700)
Total £478,000 (£425,000)
World Championship
Winner £300,000 (£250,000)
Runner-up £125,000 (£125,000)
Semi-finals £55,000 (£52,000)
Quarter-finals £25,000 (£24,050)
Last 16 £16,000 (£16,000)
Last 32 £12,000 (£12,000)
Last 48 £8,500 (£8,200)
Last 64 £5,000 (£4,600)
Last 96 £1,000 (£0)
Last 128 £0
High break (Finals) £10,000 (£10,000)
High break (Qualifiers) £1,000 (£1,000)
Total £1,214,000 (£1,111,000)
European Tour (UK)
Winner £20,000 (£10,000)
Runner-up £10,000 (£5,000)
Semi-finals £5,000 (£2,500)
Quarter-finals £2,500 (£1,500)
Last 16 £1,700 (£1,000)
Last 32 £1,100 (£600)
Last 64 £600 (£200)
Last 128 £0 (£0)
Total £100,400 (£50,000)
European Tour (Continental)
Winner €25,000 (€12,000)
Runner-up €12,000 (€6,000)
Semi-finals €6,000 (€3,000)
Quarter-finals €4,000 (€2,000)
Last 16 €2,300 (€1,250)
Last 32 €1,200 (€750)
Last 64 €700 (€500)
Last 128 €0 (€0)
Total €125,000 (€70,000)
Asian Tour
Winner £10,000 (£10,000)
Runner-up £5,000 (£5,000)
Semi-finals £2,500 (£2,500)
Quarter-finals £1,500 (£1,500)
Last 16 £1,000 (£1,000)
Last 32 £600 (£600)
Last 64 £200 (£200)
Last 128 £0 (£0)
Total £50,000 (£50,000)
PTC Grand Finals
Winner £100,000 (£100,000)
Runner-up £38,000 (£38,000)
Semi-finals £20,000 (£20,000)
Quarter-finals £10,000 (£10,000)
Last 16 £5,000 (£5,000)
Last 32 £2,500 (£2,500)
High break £2,000 (£2,000)
Total £300,000 (£300,000)
The Masters
Winner £200,000 (£175,000)
Runner-up £90,000 (£85,000)
Semi-finals £50,000 (£40,000)
Quarter-finals £25,000 (£20,000)
Last 16 £12,500 (£9,000)
High break £10,000 (£8,000)
Total £600,000 (£500,000)
Shoot-Out
Winner £32,000 (£32,000)
Runner-up £16,000 (£16,000)
Semi-finals £8,000 (£8,000)
Quarter-finals £4,000 (£4,000)
Last 16 £2,000 (£2,000)
Last 32 £1,000 (£1,000)
Last 64 £500 (£500)
High break £2,000 (£2,000)
Total £130,000 (£130,000)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU0SFlr5RIA
The 2014 Payoff
Prize money breakdowns for each of the main events are as follows. Where relevant, figures for 2012/13 are in brackets.
Wuxi Classic
Winner £80,000 (£75,000)
Runner-up £35,000 (£30,000)
Semi-finals £20,000 (£18,000)
Quarter-finals £11,500 (£10,000)
Last 16 £8,000 (£7,500)
Last 32 £6,500 (£6,000)
Last 64 £3,000 (£1,500)
Last 128 £0
High break (Finals) £2,000 (£2,000)
High break (Qualifiers) £0 (£200)
Total £467,000 (£400,000)
Goldfields Australian Open
Winner $70,000 ($70,000)
Runner-up $30,000 ($30,000)
Semi-finals $20,000 ($20,000)
Quarter-finals $15,000 ($15,000)
Last 16 $10,000 ($10,000)
Last 32 $7,500 ($7,500)
Last 48 $1,600 ($2,000)
Last 64 $750 ($0)
Last 96 $150 ($0)
Last 128 $0
High break (Finals) $2,500 ($2,500)
High break (Qualifiers) $100 ($500)
Total $445,000 ($435,000)
Shanghai Masters
Winner £80,000 (£75,000)
Runner-up £35,000 (£30,000)
Semi-finals £19,500 (£18,000)
Quarter-finals £11,000 (£10,000)
Last 16 £7,500 (£7,500)
Last 32 £6,000 (£6,000)
Last 48 £2,300 (£2,300)
Last 64 £1,500 (£1,500)
Last 96 £250 (£0)
Last 128 £0
High break (Finals) £2,000 (£2,000)
High break (Qualifiers) £200 (£200)
Total £425,000 (£400,000)
International Championship
Winner £125,000 (£125,000)
Runner-up £65,000 (£62,500)
Semi-finals £30,000 (£30,000)
Quarter-finals £17,500 (£17,500)
Last 16 £12,000 (£12,000)
Last 32 £7,000 (£7,000)
Last 64 £3,000 (£1,500)
Last 128 £0
High break (Finals) £1,000 (£2,000)
High break (Qualifiers) £0 (£500)
Total £625,000 (£600,000)
UK Championship
Winner £150,000 (£125,000)
Runner-up £70,00 (£50,000)
Semi-finals £30,000 (£25,000)
Quarter-finals £20,000 (£17,000)
Last 16 £12,000 (£11,000)
Last 32 £9,000 (£7,500)
Last 64 £3,000 (£2,000)
Last 128 £0
High break (Finals) £4,000 (£3,500)
High break (Qualifiers) £0 (£500)
Total £700,000 (£625,000)
German Masters
Winner €80,000 (€60,000)
Runner-up €35,000 (€32,000)
Semi-finals €20,000 (€16,000)
Quarter-finals €10,000 (€9,000)
Last 16 €5,000 (€4,500)
Last 32 €3,000 (€2,750)
Last 64 €1,500 (€1,500)
Last 128 €0
High break (Finals) €4,000 (€2,000)
High break (Qualifiers) €0 (€0)
Total €335,000 (€300,000)
Welsh Open
Winner £60,000 (£50,000)
Runner-up £30,000 (£30,000)
Semi-finals £20,000 (£16,000)
Quarter-finals £10,000 (£10,000)
Last 16 £5,000 (£4,000)
Last 32 £2,500 (£2,000)
Last 64 £1,500 (£1,000)
Last 128 £0
High break (Finals) £2,000 (£2,000)
High break (Qualifiers) £0 (£0)
Total £300,000 (£250,000)
Haikou World Open
Winner £85,000 (£85,000)
Runner-up £35,000 (£35,000)
Semi-finals £21,000 (£20,000)
Quarter-finals £12,500 (£11,000)
Last 16 £8,000 (£7,500)
Last 32 £6,500 (£6,000)
Last 64 £3,000 (£1,500)
Last 128 £0
High break (Finals) £2,000 (£3,500)
High break (Qualifiers) £0 (£700)
Total £478,000 (£425,000)
China Open
Winner £85,000 (£85,000)
Runner-up £35,000 (£35,000)
Semi-finals £21,000 (£20,000)
Quarter-finals £12,500 (£11,000)
Last 16 £8,000 (£7,500)
Last 32 £6,500 (£6,000)
Last 64 £3,000 (£1,500)
Last 128 £0
High break (Finals) £2,000 (£3,500)
High break (Qualifiers) £0 (£700)
Total £478,000 (£425,000)
World Championship
Winner £300,000 (£250,000)
Runner-up £125,000 (£125,000)
Semi-finals £55,000 (£52,000)
Quarter-finals £25,000 (£24,050)
Last 16 £16,000 (£16,000)
Last 32 £12,000 (£12,000)
Last 48 £8,500 (£8,200)
Last 64 £5,000 (£4,600)
Last 96 £1,000 (£0)
Last 128 £0
High break (Finals) £10,000 (£10,000)
High break (Qualifiers) £1,000 (£1,000)
Total £1,214,000 (£1,111,000)
European Tour (UK)
Winner £20,000 (£10,000)
Runner-up £10,000 (£5,000)
Semi-finals £5,000 (£2,500)
Quarter-finals £2,500 (£1,500)
Last 16 £1,700 (£1,000)
Last 32 £1,100 (£600)
Last 64 £600 (£200)
Last 128 £0 (£0)
Total £100,400 (£50,000)
European Tour (Continental)
Winner €25,000 (€12,000)
Runner-up €12,000 (€6,000)
Semi-finals €6,000 (€3,000)
Quarter-finals €4,000 (€2,000)
Last 16 €2,300 (€1,250)
Last 32 €1,200 (€750)
Last 64 €700 (€500)
Last 128 €0 (€0)
Total €125,000 (€70,000)
Asian Tour
Winner £10,000 (£10,000)
Runner-up £5,000 (£5,000)
Semi-finals £2,500 (£2,500)
Quarter-finals £1,500 (£1,500)
Last 16 £1,000 (£1,000)
Last 32 £600 (£600)
Last 64 £200 (£200)
Last 128 £0 (£0)
Total £50,000 (£50,000)
PTC Grand Finals
Winner £100,000 (£100,000)
Runner-up £38,000 (£38,000)
Semi-finals £20,000 (£20,000)
Quarter-finals £10,000 (£10,000)
Last 16 £5,000 (£5,000)
Last 32 £2,500 (£2,500)
High break £2,000 (£2,000)
Total £300,000 (£300,000)
The Masters
Winner £200,000 (£175,000)
Runner-up £90,000 (£85,000)
Semi-finals £50,000 (£40,000)
Quarter-finals £25,000 (£20,000)
Last 16 £12,500 (£9,000)
High break £10,000 (£8,000)
Total £600,000 (£500,000)
Shoot-Out
Winner £32,000 (£32,000)
Runner-up £16,000 (£16,000)
Semi-finals £8,000 (£8,000)
Quarter-finals £4,000 (£4,000)
Last 16 £2,000 (£2,000)
Last 32 £1,000 (£1,000)
Last 64 £500 (£500)
High break £2,000 (£2,000)
Total £130,000 (£130,000)
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To get from pounds (£) to dollars multiply by 1.5, from euros to dollars by 1.3 and from Australian dollars to US dollars by 1.05.
JC
Coos Cues
Unfortunately for us, we will never see any true snooker stars devote to pool until they are well past their prime. I am hard pressed to imagine that if either one of the youngsters in the match shown by the OP dedicated their life to pool that they wouldn't tear up the world in short order. But why would they? Why would they trade in their Cadillac payday opportunity for a Yugo spare change?
JC
JC
This is quite true, but in my mind there are other elements at play besides the money.
First we have to understand how pool is viewed by the snooker world in general. On the surface it appears to be "too easy" " massive pockets" " how can they miss" etc etc.
For anyone that has played we know that's not the reality, pocketing balls is not the "game"
Before Davis got involved with the Matchroom pool events I think the feeling for a pro snooker player to go and play pool would appear to be an admission of failure so the peer pressure may have kept some away and probably still does.
Peach became a world champion and has won many other events he was not even a highly ranked pro, the reverse of this would never happen so the transition from the big table can be done, all the mechanical pieces are in place it's just a matter of finding the other aspects of the game.
Anyway the main point of this thread was not really about pool vs snooker but to give pat on the back to Mr Hearn, to achieve this in short order in these economic conditions is just remarkable imo.
Where is the American equal? and could he/she put pool back on the map?