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skip100 said:
I've watched that combination (plant) a few times and still can barely see what's going on or how he saw that!

And he didn't let the cue ball fly at all, he sent it vertically up and down the table and had about a three-foot position zone for any of the colors at the head of the table.
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Through all that traffic? Yeah, great shot. :wink:
The way he hit he's lucky the dead ball didn't get kissed out by one of the careening balls.
P.S. The cue ball got kissed up table by one of the reds. He didn't play it that way.
 
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The red is moving at a pretty slow pace towards the pocket despite the speed he hit it at. If he hit it soft enough to stay on the black the red would like not have made it to the pocket. The combo also wasn't a dead combination so he probably wanted to send the cue ball to baulk end anyways.
 
skip100 said:
I've watched that combination (plant) a few times and still can barely see what's going on or how he saw that!

And he didn't let the cue ball fly at all, he sent it vertically up and down the table and had about a three-foot position zone for any of the colors at the head of the table.
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Ray Martin in the 99 critical shots in pool, tells you how to find wired billiards.

It appears to me that the billiard gave him a much bigger target so he could pull the cue ball straight back up table. The good luck was the balls put in motion did not hit or interfere with the cue ball.
 
gregcantrall said:
Higgins Cannon into a plant.

Or as I would say; Billiard into a combination.

When he was eyeing up the shot, I thought 'he is looking at the billiard'. Sure enough he hit it perfect.........but the commentator exclaimed, 'he misscued, he hit the wrong ball!'.He was then adamant that the shot and nice shape were a fluke.

I wanted to ask the opinion here. So found it on youtube. Jumped to the shot...........the commentary has been changed!!!!!!!!!!

Higgins not so fluked billiard combo.
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That's pretty funny if they changed the commentary. There was some disagreement between the commentators after the shot.

When he was practice aiming where he wanted to hit the plant, it didn't look like he could really hit it that thin from where the cue ball was, so I do think he hit it like he wanted.
 
Cameron Smith said:
The red is moving at a pretty slow pace towards the pocket despite the speed he hit it at. If he hit it soft enough to stay on the black the red would like not have made it to the pocket. The combo also wasn't a dead combination so he probably wanted to send the cue ball to baulk end anyways.
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The two reds were close enough together (maybe even frozen) for a little throw to send it right into the corner. He may be a great snooker player but he went brain dead there and got away with it. He tried to dog it.
 
Cameron Smith said:
The red is moving at a pretty slow pace towards the pocket despite the speed he hit it at. If he hit it soft enough to stay on the black the red would like not have made it to the pocket. The combo also wasn't a dead combination so he probably wanted to send the cue ball to baulk end anyways.
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It's moving at a slow pace because he hit the other red first, not the one in the combo. I contend he didn't have to do that. Bottom line for me is that I think he hit the wrong ball first to execute the shot properly and with control.
 
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Again theres no way to control it on that thin a hit make the ball and get out into where hes got a shot on a color
Whats more probable to get on the one black thats clustered with reds or up table to multiple colors?

Your way to invested in to making others see it your way
 
beneath_the_sur said:
Again theres no way to control it on that thin a hit make the ball and get out into where hes got a shot on a color
Whats more probable to get on the one black thats clustered with reds or up table to multiple colors?

Your way to invested in to making others see it your way
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I don't need someone else's support to form my own opinion. He had a perfect angle on that combination. He did not have to hit it the way he did! I agree to disagree. :thumbup:
 
Perfect angle huh
No matter what we think he played it the best way that worked for HIM
Stop downplaying it like you could do better than the man in the world snooker final
Geez
 
I think Higgins thought that combination was going to throw toward the bottom cushion if he hit it coming from the direction of the cue ball. That's why he lined up the billiard-combo instead, so that the red wouldn't throw toward the bottom cushion.
 
jay helfert said:
He could have gotten on the pink or the black there. He trusted on luck with that wild shot.
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Heading for somewhere between the blue and brown spots is an option often taken by
snooker players....and a wise one.

Anybody notice that he had a dead kiss-in that he slept?
 
PoolBum said:
I think Higgins thought that combination was going to throw toward the bottom cushion if he hit it coming from the direction of the cue ball. That's why he lined up the billiard-combo instead, so that the red wouldn't throw toward the bottom cushion.
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...I think he was hitting whitey with low right...
British cues with brass ferrules tend to push whitey off line more..that's why they use
extra small tips.....so when you increase the speed it goes off course...add the fact that
a rest shot pushes maximum....I think he clipped the first red by accident.

My opinion?...a fluke
 
pt109 said:
...I think he was hitting whitey with low right...
British cues with brass ferrules tend to push whitey off line more..that's why they use
extra small tips.....so when you increase the speed it goes off course...add the fact that
a rest shot pushes maximum....I think he clipped the first red by accident.

My opinion?...a fluke
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Except when he lined up the shot he lined up the billiard off the red he actually hit first.
 
PoolBum said:
I think Higgins thought that combination was going to throw toward the bottom cushion if he hit it coming from the direction of the cue ball. That's why he lined up the billiard-combo instead, so that the red wouldn't throw toward the bottom cushion.
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I believe you are 100% correct. He studied it for the thin hit on the combo and didn't like it and then he studied the billiard-combo which he liked and shot.
 
gregcantrall said:
Higgins Cannon into a plant.

Or as I would say; Billiard into a combination.

When he was eyeing up the shot, I thought 'he is looking at the billiard'. Sure enough he hit it perfect.........but the commentator exclaimed, 'he misscued, he hit the wrong ball!'.He was then adamant that the shot and nice shape were a fluke.

I wanted to ask the opinion here. So found it on youtube. Jumped to the shot...........the commentary has been changed!!!!!!!!!!

Higgins not so fluked billiard combo.
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By chance when watching live were you watching the Eurosport stream?

I was and I remember the commentary as you say, however the link you've posted is the BBC stream, so rather than changing it, is it possibly just a different commentator (although the video is shared the commentary isn't)?
 
jay helfert said:
He totally turned the cue ball loose there. Not very impressive.
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lol what?

The cue ball just went up and down the table after getting kicked by a red. He had an angle on the plant, so the cue ball was bound to get some movement.

I'd say he controlled it pretty well.

Stick to pool, Jay.
 
vjmehra said:
By chance when watching live were you watching the Eurosport stream?

I was and I remember the commentary as you say, however the link you've posted is the BBC stream, so rather than changing it, is it possibly just a different commentator (although the video is shared the commentary isn't)?
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This is right.

Sorry to say, but there is no conspiracy of changing the commentary.
 
jay helfert said:
I don't need someone else's support to form my own opinion. He had a perfect angle on that combination. He did not have to hit it the way he did! I agree to disagree. :thumbup:
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I'm sensing some snooker hate from ya

you do realize you're watching world class master class level skill at the moment the likes of which I have not seen in pool since Earl and Efren's prime
 
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