You really have no clue how Fargo works. Fargo rating is based ONLY on games played( won/lost and who you played and their rating) that are reported to Fargo. It is very accurate once you have about 500 games in the system. The more one plays the more accurate the rating, its all based on # of games reported. Your assumption/view of Fargo are not correct. There's nothing FR can do about a player who rarely plays as you describe. I don't think that player truly exists. There are ZERO players anywhere near the top that only cherry-pick a couple events a year.
2024 World Pool Championship
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I'd like to know why you think you'd do better than players like Naoyuki Oi or Alex Kazakhis, both of whom haven't won a big tournament in their last 20 entries. Even Anton Raga hasn't won a big tournament in his career. That's not a knock on them - I'm just pointing out that nobody on earth is a lock for a big tournament win in 20 tries.
GAMES. Its based on the number of games played. # of tournaments doesn't factor in at all, well it does indirectly because the more events you play the more games get played.
I think his opponent snapped in 2 x 9's, one on the hill
Badpenguin
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And I could enter a major tournament and get a golden break every time I came to the table. In this random universe, given a long enough time period (100's of thousands of years?), this is possible.
What we are both describing is mostly fantasy and will probably not happen in our lifetimes.
But love your confidence. Can't wait to see you enter and win one of these, completely out of the blue and unknown.
'Probably' fantasy?? No, its pure Jules Verne-esque fantasy. Last time something like that happened was when unknown Texas player Keith Thompson won at Johnston City. The chances that some total unknown wins a big event these days is beyond calculation.
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There are players who cherry pick their events. I watch snooker and Ronnie o'sullivan who is the best out of all other snooker players do cherry pick his event. The less he joins the better he gets. Now maybe you're right that I don't understand how Fargo works. But let me ask you, if Fargo is implemented to snooker will Ronnie O'sullivan be the top? If not then its not accurate, if yes then ok I don't understand Fargo and maybe its good.
Gorst latest 13th 800 to join the ghostly gallery on losers side. Except for Albin Ignacio and Oi, all rest lost to weaker opponents , sub 800s
Sky
Dang
Biado
Alcaide
Wojciech
Feijen
Wu Kun Lin
Sanjin
Alex
Gorst
Albin
Ignacio
Oi
Those sent packing today will get $1000 for their troubles plus free ride to airport . Those out tomorrow $2000
Sky
Dang
Biado
Alcaide
Wojciech
Feijen
Wu Kun Lin
Sanjin
Alex
Gorst
Albin
Ignacio
Oi
Those sent packing today will get $1000 for their troubles plus free ride to airport . Those out tomorrow $2000
Badpenguin
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You just contradicted your own statement. It apparently has happened before, with Keith Thompson.
Fargo will never be used in snooker. Was never designed for the game. Could be adapted but that will never happen. In your fantasy scenario with Ronnie, he would be the top FARGO player based only on games played. You are comparing apples-to-oranges. There is NO way for FR to account for players outside the system. You seem unable to grasp this. One last thing and its big: most bigger FR events these days require a min. # of games in the FR system, usually 400+. So sneaking up and cherry picking a event is tough-to-impossible.
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I knew you'd chime with this. My point is there are WAAAAAAY more players at the top and with social media/internet no one is sneaking up on anybody. When Keith won it was like the dark ages compared to today. Also there weren't ANYWHERE near as many top players at JC. It was a small event for hustlers. Keep dreaming.
Badpenguin
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Yes, agreed, it isn't likely to happen.
Nice inteo
Curious myself.
Pool is a crazy thing....for $100 entry you can play the best in the world.
I'd say family money....
Curious myself.
Pool is a crazy thing....for $100 entry you can play the best in the world.
Fargo Rate = numbers of racks won/lost vs rating of opponent.
If you played only 1 tourney in your life, and beat the top 8 in fargo world wide to win it. You would be player with the highest fargo. That doesn't make you the "best player" though. Just the best player on that day.
However the amount of racks you have in the system verify the likely hood of your rating to be accurate to your avg rate of play.
800 w/ 20 racks = 1 tourney wonder
800 w/20,000 racks = a solid top tier professional
If you played only 1 tourney in your life, and beat the top 8 in fargo world wide to win it. You would be player with the highest fargo. That doesn't make you the "best player" though. Just the best player on that day.
However the amount of racks you have in the system verify the likely hood of your rating to be accurate to your avg rate of play.
800 w/ 20 racks = 1 tourney wonder
800 w/20,000 racks = a solid top tier professional
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Exactly. Well put.
It amy event...pool or otherwise....only 3 guys are supposed to win.
So few upsets in pool where some donkey wins it all and some of those are obvious dumps.
Look at how little Dechaine won
Tyler
Billy
Skylar
Im taking big events with international talent. The US has one player who is capable. What are we gonna have when SVB is a full time fisherman?
Not much
Probably just gets equipment to sell for a percentage like most.
Nobody is buying a cue because HL endorses it.