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24 Stroke Shots Video - Can you make them all?
- Thread starter Colin Colenso
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Colin, you obviously have a problem scratching. Using those object balls to block the pocket will do your position control no good. Get rid of the blockers and face your demons. However, you have piqued my interest and I will be trying some of those shots tonight although I may have trouble making all of them in a row as you have demonstrated.
JoeyA
JoeyA
JoeyA said:
Funny. Kinda like Mike Massy being confused about which ball to play, so he makes them all.....
haha..it's a residual effect of my youthful years playing English BilliardsJoeyA said:
Few of these shots are 50-50 propositions for me. A few took me over 20 attempts. But it's not like I had any pressure on...with pressure it would take twice as many tries
Colin Colenso said:DJ,
Thanks for the offer...sounds like you know a lot more about vid than me.
I was just joking with TheOne re: needing editing gear...meaning I'd have use special effects to cover up my misses. hehe...14.1 ain't my game, and my table has 4.3" pockets, slow nap and I've got a dozen other excuses lined up for TheOne
Maybe when TheOne puts his video back up, you can analyze it to see if that woman who walks in on his 97th shot (supposedly distracting him), was actually digitally added after the fact, as I suspect
Colin <~Wanabe Producer
I can't be adding people into the video and things like that.. LOL But I could certainly put a video together that made it look like you ran an infinite amount of racks. I.E. Splicing together right before you break kinda deal. I was actually going to take some video over an hour and break and run 5 racks then splice them all together and put it up here and see who wants some.. LOL Maybe change my signiature to "The Ghost is my *****" kinda deal.
DJ
Nice video Colin. There's a few shots in there (more than a few actually) that I don't have in my arsenal anymore. I used to be able to come with a big stroke when I needed it but I've lost it now. Jimmy M. pointed out something awhile back that he thought looked different in my set up but I haven't had the time at a table to figure it out yet. Anyway, thanks for sharing Colin. Peace, John.
Thanks John,Rude Dog said:
I doubt losing some of that big stroke takes away from your game too much. One thing I notice about the top players I've seen play (Ralf Souquet being a good example), is that they play smarter rather than harder.
For all I know, Ralf could be found seriously wanting attempting some of these shots, but his tactical and other shot knowledge means he rarely needs them.
Power stroke shots are mostly an area of artistic / trick shot pool...a category of the game I enjoy testing out. Now running racks...that's where the dollars be...and something I gotta do more of
Cheers, Colin.
Scott Lee said:
Maybe it is boastful, but the title of this thread is "24 Stroke Shots Video - Can you make them all?".
I simply answered the question. Nobody said anything about 1st try.
No worries Corey, the 'Can you make them all?' bit was really just intended as a teaser to tempt readers to take a lookCrownCityCorey said:
I'm certainly not claiming to have set any records...just displaying some challenging shots.
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Thank you so much for this thread, very interesting and helpful. Much appreciated.Colin Colenso said:Thanks Peter, Gabber and Fred and all who appreciated the video.
btw: I think many players in this forum could make all these shots, but some of the shots would test their patience as they did mine
Hopefully it opened up a few path ideas to some of the viewers. It certainly helped me to become more familiar with predicting some of these tougher power shots.
Getting the confidence to make some of these shots with a high percentage can make for some intimidating arsenal against an opponent. Of course it's best to play the simplist positional routes, but having options is a benefit.
Richard
Hey Colin you have a great power stroke. Are you able to shoot a spot shot from behind the line with low outside and draw the cueball past the side pocket? I have never been able to do this. The farthest I got was scratching. I saw a local shortstop here do it like it was nothing.
cuetechasaurus said:
Assuming you mean getting past the center using the side rail (The B-shot as Zeeder diagramed), it looks possible, but just having tried the shot a couple of times I don't think I could do it on my table.
I think it needs a fast cloth, so you can keep a high spin:speed ratio without hitting too hard. My cloth eats up the CB spin over that 4.5 feet of travel, so I have to beat the heck out of it, which sends the CB too far out on the tangent.
Spot Shot Challenge
Refer to the diagram below:
A general rule of thumb (not an exact physics principle) is that the sharpest or tightest angle of return achievable on a non-elevated draw shot, is the line that mirrors the angle of approach.
As this shot is played from a distance (reducing the spin speed ratio) and with some side spin, the maximum draw angle will be less than that. Hence, the white line I've drawn is probably about the best angle achievable on this shot I imagine.
Refer to the diagram below:
A general rule of thumb (not an exact physics principle) is that the sharpest or tightest angle of return achievable on a non-elevated draw shot, is the line that mirrors the angle of approach.
As this shot is played from a distance (reducing the spin speed ratio) and with some side spin, the maximum draw angle will be less than that. Hence, the white line I've drawn is probably about the best angle achievable on this shot I imagine.
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FANTASTIC video. Thanks Colin! If you've still got the prototype you should re-encode it into something that will remove that ugly watermark though. Try xvid. Drop me a line if you want more help.
Also, it goes to show that an open bridge is more than enough to pull off unbelievable shots!
Also, it goes to show that an open bridge is more than enough to pull off unbelievable shots!
pinkisntwell said:
The watermark gets whacked on when I encode the 3GP into avi codec, so I can edit it in moviemaker. I use Xilisoft to encode. Can you recommend an encoder (preferably free) that will do this without adding a watermark?
To do it again I'd have to completely redo the edit which would take a few hours
Re the bridge: Yeah, I've never seen the necessity for a closed bridge. Granted my cue flies around a bit, but it all happens after the CB has left the cue. Especially on some of these shots where I felt I needed to swipe and swoop the cue to get the spin required.
Well, avi is not a codec, but a container. You can put whatever video you want in it. You're using DivX, hence the watermark. In the step where you convert to avi, check to see if you can choose what compression you will use. You can choose Xvid and it will work great. If you don't have xvid check here.
Yeah, the cue flies a bit with the open bridge but it doesn't matter. In the few times I've tried playing with a closed bridge my whole bridge flies on power shots anyway
Yeah, the cue flies a bit with the open bridge but it doesn't matter. In the few times I've tried playing with a closed bridge my whole bridge flies on power shots anyway
Whoops I should have said going 1-rail. It's path 'B' in the diagram. Around here this is probably the most famous proposition shot.