You're right. The OB is the other one. I wouldn't say the others are low deflection, not like the Predator. OB is close though.
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You're right. The OB is the other one. I wouldn't say the others are low deflection, not like the Predator. OB is close though.
No one has mentioned this but if you REALLY want to improve your break then buy a BreakRak. That device will improve your break with ANY cue.
In 15 minutes with it I learned so much about my breaking technique that it's stuck with me for more than six years now. I bought one and Kelly Fisher borrowed it and it helped her and all her housemates with their breaking.
In fact I probably will never get it back :-(
Many years ago I was openly against break cues being advertised as "better". I just felt that breaking is more a matter of technique than cue. I still do believe this BUT I know now from experience that for SOME reason some cues do "break" better than others. I don't really know why, I don't know what it is that makes the balls spread a little better with one cue vs. another one when the person breaking is doing the same thing with both cues.
Two years ago I was handed a Fury BREAK cue. Not a Break/Jump. I thought it's not going to be anything special. I took it to the pool room and it turned out to be real special. I handed it to my friends, all better players than me, and asked them to try it, all people who were in love with Predator BK. Some said it's way better than the BK, some said it's equal to the BK, some said it's not as good as the BK. But all agreed that it was a good break cue. Since I didn't use a BK I really had no basis for comparison.
Anyway, the point is that there IS a performance difference in break cues. But it's very hard to quantify based on personal testimonials.
So perhaps investing in break technique is the better first step.
In 15 minutes with it I learned so much about my breaking technique that it's stuck with me for more than six years now. I bought one and Kelly Fisher borrowed it and it helped her and all her housemates with their breaking.
In fact I probably will never get it back :-(
Many years ago I was openly against break cues being advertised as "better". I just felt that breaking is more a matter of technique than cue. I still do believe this BUT I know now from experience that for SOME reason some cues do "break" better than others. I don't really know why, I don't know what it is that makes the balls spread a little better with one cue vs. another one when the person breaking is doing the same thing with both cues.
Two years ago I was handed a Fury BREAK cue. Not a Break/Jump. I thought it's not going to be anything special. I took it to the pool room and it turned out to be real special. I handed it to my friends, all better players than me, and asked them to try it, all people who were in love with Predator BK. Some said it's way better than the BK, some said it's equal to the BK, some said it's not as good as the BK. But all agreed that it was a good break cue. Since I didn't use a BK I really had no basis for comparison.
Anyway, the point is that there IS a performance difference in break cues. But it's very hard to quantify based on personal testimonials.
So perhaps investing in break technique is the better first step.
I usually stand by what John says; Love the fact that you stand by what you believe in irregardless of people's opinions and I respect that.
Still, up till today, I feel quite lost at why so many people love the Fury J/B. I used to own one for awhile and was terribly disappointed with it
Had quite a number of J/B, dedicated breaks / jumps and I will say Fury J/Bs are at the bottom of my list though.
I usually break hard and it felt really soft for me, even when I experimented with different break styles.
The jumping wasn't really impressive as well. Couldn't get much elevation off the CB with the pendulum stroke. Dart worked better but not fantastic for me either. I felt I was better off with a J&J.
Overall, I took in this cue like an excited little child who has gotten his first megazoid, until I played around with it. Felt like a zoid that has lost it's "Mega" oomph
Damn. Really sad case for me :sorry:
I usually stand by what John says; Love the fact that you stand by what you believe in irregardless of people's opinions and I respect that.
Still, up till today, I feel quite lost at why so many people love the Fury J/B. I used to own one for awhile and was terribly disappointed with it
Had quite a number of J/B, dedicated breaks / jumps and I will say Fury J/Bs are at the bottom of my list though.
I usually break hard and it felt really soft for me, even when I experimented with different break styles.
The jumping wasn't really impressive as well. Couldn't get much elevation off the CB with the pendulum stroke. Dart worked better but not fantastic for me either. I felt I was better off with a J&J.
Overall, I took in this cue like an excited little child who has gotten his first megazoid, until I played around with it. Felt like a zoid that has lost it's "Mega" oomph
Damn. Really sad case for me :sorry:
I will tell you exactly the reason you don't like the Fury. Because it didn't feel good to you. I have done this so long that I know that not everyone is going to gel with every cue. When I owned Bunjee I did tons of exhibitions/lessons where I had to teach people to jump. I had plenty of guys come up to me and say that the jump cue they were using didn't work as well as the bunjee and I knew that it wasn't true. I could jump just as well with their cue but I had to adjust my technique slightly.
Most people aren't nearly as advanced with the jump cue as I am so they don't know how to adjust for the cue. That said sometimes a cue is a dud.
Mike Gulyassy handed me one of his one time and I couldn't do a relatively easy jump shot with it. I thought I was crazy because it's a shot I make with the Bunjee with my eyes closed. So I went back to my table and used the Bunjee and it worked no problem.
Went back to Mike and told him and we looked at the cue and the one I couldn't get to work was 12mm. He gave me one that was 13mm and it worked perfectly. So anyone picking up the 12mm one would have likely concluded that Sledgehammers suck for jumping.
I knew that wasn't the case so Mike and I figured it out and he was actually surprised to see that a 12mm shaft really decreased the performance significantly.
Anyway, there are a lot of factors why someone likes a cue or doesn't like it. I am with you when it comes to buying something with great anticipation based on the testimonials of others and when you get it then it's kind of blah. That sucks no matter what the product is.
stop stalking me you forum grammar cop. it's not imo it's a fact. get over it. you should be glad it's probably some 10 year old that works at your factory cranking 'em out and i'm still saying they're good
Not enough time with the lady boys this week or something? you seem to be posting more
it is not a fact and you can bet your welfare check on it. I take food stamps too if you want to bet those.
The Food Stamp Program is designed to raise the nutritional level of low income households. It enables low-income families to buy nutritious food through Electronic Benefits Transfer (EBT) cards. So food stamps are the thing of the past or modernized!
just because im not a 10 year old in your factory doesnt mean im on welfare homo. i got a job. no thanks to guys like you whore against hiring americans. stick to ladyboys! u can be right all day long with them.lol
Gee, little upset there? Is your problem flaring up? Sorry to see that. I have nothing against hiring Americans, I'd give you a job walking down the down the street wearing a sandwich board or a costume any day.
Funny that you rail on me for being in China and yet you claim that the Chinese-made J&J is cue is the BEST break jump cue made. Not just the best value but the best performing one as well.
I guess cues made in China by "10 year olds" (your words) are ok as long as YOU think that they are great.
Even though you are a hypocrite I'd still give you a job. I am positive I can find something that you can do that doesn't require you to think too hard.
The Food Stamp Program is designed to raise the nutritional level of low income households. It enables low-income families to buy nutritious food through Electronic Benefits Transfer (EBT) cards. So food stamps are the thing of the past or modernized!
So I can't take them as payment. Sorry PP, can't hook you up. Back in my day we could buy all sorts of things with Food Stamps. My mom used to send me down to the store to get cigarettes and there was a guy who would take FS and go in an buy the cigarettes. I guess that's a reason why they stopped using them.
Either a J&J or a Fury. Both of theses break great. I just tried the McDermott stinger, and that thing jumps amazingly well and easy. I sold my first generation gulyassey sledgehammer and replaced it with a J&J. I use a house cue converted into a J/B. It feels like a nice schon when in play with it, but breaks great.
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