The question is about putting a non-piloted flat-faced shaft on one of his butts that is designed for a piloted shaft.
3/8x10 joint question
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The question is about putting a non-piloted flat-faced shaft on one of his butts that is designed for a piloted shaft.
I agree , If it screws togather , flush , it should be O.K. Jim
I personally have not seen any difference in hit using a flat faced shaft on a piloted butt. I actually intentionally order flat face shafts a lot of the time so I can use them on cues with the same joint but different pilot or no pilot at all. I think the whole idea of a Pilot is just for looks and so a cue builder or manufacturer can limit your after market options. Prime example is a Predator 5/16x14 piloted shaft, it works on both a Joss and Schon, which have different pilots. You can use a Joss made shaft on a Schon, but not vice versa, and the same Predator pilot is used for both. Considering that at one time the Schon/Predator combo was the choice of many high level players it should be obvious the pilot doesn't matter.
The reason that I asked was that the 3/8ths x 10 is my favorite pin.
It is generally a flat faced joint. I know some makers will use a Phenolic insert in the shaft
to make it stronger, rather than just wood threads. Good stuff.
Radial pins, same deal. Wood threads.
It seems that Ernie made a nice little adjustment to the way he uses that pin.
With many brass inserts, you see a tiny nub above the face of the shaft. If you look at the butt, you see a wide and deep void. So, that little brass bub doesn't do a ton of good and you can use a flat face in a butt that is made to accept a Pilot without any problems
at all.
Ernie's shaft pilot looked like it was designed to fit a little more snug both width and depth wise.
That is what one would consider to be a real Pilot. More on the functional side.
Still, the only thing the OP could do is try out a flat face shaft on the butt and see how it goes. No harm in trying. It will work just fine.
It is generally a flat faced joint. I know some makers will use a Phenolic insert in the shaft
to make it stronger, rather than just wood threads. Good stuff.
Radial pins, same deal. Wood threads.
It seems that Ernie made a nice little adjustment to the way he uses that pin.
With many brass inserts, you see a tiny nub above the face of the shaft. If you look at the butt, you see a wide and deep void. So, that little brass bub doesn't do a ton of good and you can use a flat face in a butt that is made to accept a Pilot without any problems
at all.
Ernie's shaft pilot looked like it was designed to fit a little more snug both width and depth wise.
That is what one would consider to be a real Pilot. More on the functional side.
Still, the only thing the OP could do is try out a flat face shaft on the butt and see how it goes. No harm in trying. It will work just fine.
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You are correct sir
Good deal, I'll go try it out and see how I like it