3-Cushion Billiard Cloth on a 7-foot Valley?

Johnnyt

Johnnyt

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Have any of you put on, or played on, or even seen something like Rapid 300 or other type of 3 cushion cloth on a 7-foot table? I'm wondering if it will play like a Pin Ball machine when the humidity is low here? I'm tired of having to hit the QB like I need to go 8-rails instead of the 2 I need to get everytime the humidity gets over 65%. Johnnyt
 
We have a local bowling alley with 300 on 10-9' tables and it is not good. I'd think you'd be extremely disappointed on a 7' table. The cue ball would never stop if your cushions have any life to them.
 
Johnnyt said:
Have any of you put on, or played on, or even seen something like Rapid 300 or other type of 3 cushion cloth on a 7-foot table? I'm wondering if it will play like a Pin Ball machine when the humidity is low here? I'm tired of having to hit the QB like I need to go 8-rails instead of the 2 I need to get everytime the humidity gets over 65%. Johnnyt
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I can fix that Valley table of yours to play just like a Diamond it you'd like me to, shouldn't cost much more than $4000 for the conversion:grin:
 
realkingcobra said:
I can fix that Valley table of yours to play just like a Diamond it you'd like me to, shouldn't cost much more than $4000 for the conversion:grin:
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Gee that sounds like a deal Glen. I'm only a few dimes shot. Let me see what I can gather together. Hang by the phone.:D Johnnyt
 
TheTablePro said:
We have a local bowling alley with 300 on 10-9' tables and it is not good. I'd think you'd be extremely disappointed on a 7' table. The cue ball would never stop if your cushions have any life to them.
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Thanks Pro. Would you have any idea about what the % of humidity is where the tables are at? Johnnyt
 
Johnny, you will never stop the cue ball, way to fast. A room here has the 300 on table 1 in the room, 9 footer, nobody wants to play on it because its just way to fast. If you do wind up playing on it because no other tables are open then your game is shot for days afterward because you hit everything to light after that. I would not recommend going that route.

Also, your problem is not only the cloth, the humdity is clinging to the balls to.
 
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selftaut said:
Johnny, you will never stop the cue ball, way to fast. A room here has the 300 on table 1 in the room, 9 footer, nobody wants to play on it because its just way to fast. If you do wind up playing on it because no other tables are open then your game is shot for days afterward because you hit everything to light after that. I would not recommend going that route.

Also, your problem is not only the cloth, the humdity is clinging to the balls to.
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You don't think the 75-100% humidity will slow it down a bit? Johnnyt
 
Johnnyt said:
Thanks Pro. Would you have any idea about what the % of humidity is where the tables are at? Johnnyt
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I'm about 20 miles North of Charlotte, NC so summer months are quite humid. That cloth is fast even then and the tables don't get much play from players. Several teams have started league play out of there and end up moving shortly thereafter starting to a new home because of them. I couldn't imagine that cloth on a 7' table in any environment....humid or not.
 
Johnnyt said:
You don't think the 75-100% humidity will slow it down a bit? Johnnyt
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I don't think so, that stuff is like playing on ice. The room here that has it on 1 table is humid as all get out in the summer with brick walls and no air condish. And its still way to fast then.
 
OK, thank you all for your input. I guess I'll have to go down a notch on the cloth. Johnnyt
 
Johnnyt said:
OK, thank you all for your input. I guess I'll have to go down a notch on the cloth. Johnnyt
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Problem is you're trying to compensate cloth speed vs. humidity.
Easier to do when you have more control on the environmental conditions,
which you don't while the table is outside.

What's on the table now?
 
Dartman said:
Problem is you're trying to compensate cloth speed vs. humidity.
Easier to do when you have more control on the environmental conditions,
which you don't while the table is outside.

What's on the table now?
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Championship medium grade...not the tour edition. The humidity is almost always over 60% in Tampa. With the cloth I have on now I can't enjoy it 75% or more of the time. If it's too fast 25% of the time, I can live with that. With the economy the way it is and we may move when the wife retires, I can't make a case to spend 10 dimes or more on a closed room. I know I'm never going to get it perfect, but I know there is some cloth that will be a hell of a lot better. Johnnyt
 
Johnnyt said:
Championship medium grade...not the tour edition. The humidity is almost always over 60% in Tampa. With the cloth I have on now I can't enjoy it 75% or more of the time. If it's too fast 25% of the time, I can live with that. With the economy the way it is and we may move when the wife retires, I can't make a case to spend 10 dimes or more on a closed room. I know I'm never going to get it perfect, but I know there is some cloth that will be a hell of a lot better. Johnnyt
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Not sure what you mean by midgrade. Did you get Ultra? (thinking you did)
Just a thought - if you didn't stretch the piss out of it originally you might try restretching.
Assuming you used a contact adhesive I hope you used it correctly.
Cost = $0
 
Dartman said:
Not sure what you mean by midgrade. Did you get Ultra? (thinking you did)
Just a thought - if you didn't stretch the piss out of it originally you might try restretching.
Assuming you used a contact adhesive I hope you used it correctly.
Cost = $0
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I had it put on by a family company that has been in business since 1950...I don't know how their still in business. The very next day after the install I called him up and told him the table had a lot of wrinkles in it. He said put a board on them and hit with hammer. Then basicly hung up on me. I should have stopped the check right then. Johnnyt
 
Johnnyt said:
I had it put on by a family company that has been in business since 1950...I don't know how their still in business. The very next day after the install I called him up and told him the table had a lot of wrinkles in it. He said put a board on them and hit with hammer. Then basicly hung up on me. I should have stopped the check right then. Johnnyt
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Yep.

Check the quality of work where you go out and play then see if you can get
a referral to whoever does their table (if they're done well).
 
Dartman said:
Yep.

Check the quality of work where you go out and play then see if you can get
a referral to whoever does their table (if they're done well).
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Good idea, thank you. Johnnyt
 
Johnnyt said:
I had it put on by a family company that has been in business since 1950...I don't know how their still in business. The very next day after the install I called him up and told him the table had a lot of wrinkles in it. He said put a board on them and hit with hammer. Then basicly hung up on me. I should have stopped the check right then. Johnnyt
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that's the funniest thing I heard all week.
 
sdbilliards said:
that's the funniest thing I heard all week.
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I might add, he got his in the end. Three rooms will no longer use him (1 is pretty large) and I ain't finished yet. The guy drove right around the corner to my bank and cashed the check right after he left my home. I could see if I was an as-hole when he was there, or watched his evey move while he was working, but I went in my office and did some work until he was finished. That was my first big mistake. Back when I was younger if someone made a fool out of me like that...well it wouldn't be pretty. Johnnyt
 
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