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Bob Jewett said:
The chart you posted from Brunswick is a sales tool rather than useful, accurate information. As others have pointed out, it is bogus.
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To much coffee?
It says minimum space requirements, not everyone's back stroke is the same.....

Ps.
Nice article in RackemMag on - LEAVE'EM LONG- www.RackemMag.com <~ read here page 14


Rob.M
 
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jay helfert said:
Actually John, you could put a 9' table in there and play on it. You have barely the minimum sized space to do it. But forget about putting any furniture in that room. Even bar stools will be in the way. People sitting on them will have to get up and move to let you shoot. And you may have to move the stool out of the way. Now, as others have said a normal sized 8' table will work just fine with room for bar stools. A good eight footer is a nice compromise, especially if you also play on bar tables.

Lassiter used to practice on an 8' table, so he could work on his tight position play. It's a lot more crowded on that table. His quote when asked why he practiced on an 8' table, "So I can get my cue ball." He was only the best position player in the world back then! So I'm guessing that his practice on the 8' table worked for him.
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With all due respect Jay, 216 inches would allow zero backstroke on any ball against the end rails and limit it to less than a normal backstroke on any ball within a few inches of the rail. It may be a worthwhile trade-off to some to have the big table but personally, I'd go down to a regular 8.
 
logical said:
With all due respect Jay, 216 inches would allow zero backstroke on any ball against the end rails and limit it to less than a normal backstroke on any ball within a few inches of the rail. It may be a worthwhile trade-off to some to have the big table but personally, I'd go down to a regular 8.
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True! I will agree that in the above scenario you only have room for a 57" cue from the rail directly to the wall. With a ball on the rail and shooting directly at it, you would either have to jack up your cue to stroke or grab a 52-54" cue from somewhere. Believe it or not, you can play most shots adequately with a 52" or 54" cue. It's not really that bad. But do you want to have a special cue for situations like this and not be able to use your regular playing cue, probably not.

That's why I agreed that the best case scenario here is to go with a regular 8' table (NOT over sized 8'). This way you have a extra 6" of play from cue to rail, enough to shoot a fairly normal shot. Thanks for clarifying that for me.
 
Bob Jewett said:
The chart you posted from Brunswick is a sales tool rather than useful, accurate information. As others have pointed out, it is bogus.
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ditto to you Bob. I looked at that chart before I purchased my table.... those numbers are wrong. If you are a player and do not want to ever use a short cue you definetly need more room than they suggest.
Erica
 
I got a table recently, was debating between 8' and 9' but since I'm a serious player I really wanted a 9' or nothing.

Minimum size is playing surface + cue length (x2) + minimal backswing length (x2) in both directions.

So for width, 50 + 58 + 58 + 2 + 2 = 14.16 feet
Length = 100 + 58 + 58 + 2 + 2 = 18.3 feet

That would be with a very short 2" backswing, but that would only come into play when shooting on the rail and directly across the table. Typically you are not on the rail, and/or not shooting directly across or up the table.

My room was 15'6" wide but only 17'8" long. So I'm about 4" short in both directions lenghtwise, and I can tell you it rarely comes up. I have an open railing on one side so can elevate if necessary, or use a 52" cue as needed. And for drills, normal ghost-type practice, etc., it's perfectly fine. So happy I went with the 9', practicing on an 8 and playing on a 9 would have been a horrible idea, for me at least.

Sure it would be nice to have more backswing space, and more room for furniture etc., and next house I will look for that. But since we moved into this house when I wasn't playing pool (took 7 years off), that sort of space wasn't a consideration. Plus nice rooms for my 5 kids were slightly more important... In the meantime I have a great, professional table to practice on with very little accommodations.


So take a realistic look at the minimum space you need, not the "standard" recommendations, and decide what's important to you before making the decision.

Scott
 
scottjen26 said:
My room was 15'6" wide but only 17'8" long. So I'm about 4" short in both directions lenghtwise, and I can tell you it rarely comes up.
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I've got a 9 footer in a 17'6" long room. (210 inches) and also some extra brick pier obstructions near 3 of the 4 corners. see 2nd post here for a pic.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=321448&page=3

I have switched back to using my favourite 57" cue & rarely need to use my 50" shorty.

scottjen26 said:
decide what's important to you before making the decision.
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Yes this.
I have no regrets about squeezing in my full size 9 footer ! :thumbup:
 
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Well folks I just made a deal for an oversized 8' brunswick medalist and I pick it up tomorrow.

Last night I made a diagram in the middle of my living room floor with scotch blue tape that was 46x92. Then I set up a bunch of boxes around the "table" to represent the rails so I could actually pick up my 58" cue and stroke to see what I'm going to be dealing with. There was only two or three spots where I would have to have a slightly shorter backstroke but that's only if your dead against the rail shooting straight down the table which doesn't come up too often.

I did a lot of thinking last night with all of this. I really wanted a 9ft gold crown again but this house won't accommodate it. My next house will. I play in a local tournament with oversized 8ft tables every week, once a month I travel two hours to a pool room to play in a monthly tournament which is played on oversized 8'ers, three days a week I play in local tournaments that are played on bar boxes. So for now this oversized 8ft table is the best fit for my needs. Plus to adjust up to a 9ft wouldn't be too much of a problem when needed. I might not have the room for all kinds of fancy furniture and such but the important thing is that I'm getting another table in my house so I can get back to playing again. I'll worry about the extra pool room "luxuries" in my next home.

I'm driving three hours each way to pick it up tomorrow.


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