626 run pocket size
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What I asked, Albert, went like this:
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Originally Posted by SBC View Post
What's your high run champion?
If he ran 900 is that enough?
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And what would that have to do with this discussion, Einstein?
Lou Figueroa
128
75 and out in competition
112 on video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRNPz_CEszE
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Could not care less what you've run.
Lou Figueroa
I didn't add anything.
It's been in the same place for years that you found the first part.
Lou Figueroa
Before the 526 was broken, it was argue the record stood because nobody really plays straight pool anymore. And that nobody is getting paid to go on tour to play straight pool.
Not that 626 happened, we get more arguments from some group.
Not that 626 happened, we get more arguments from some group.
Ok dad...though this was a pool forum.
I meant added to the current dialogue...
from Lou post:
A little background: not too long ago there was a thread on 14.1 runs and I had opined that, IMO, a player should not pick up the CB to clean it mid-run, but that if the CB required cleaning, it should be done by anyone else but the player. I had also said that IMO, the balls should not be repeatedly run through a ball polisher during a run because it caused the balls to open up like "a bag of spilt popcorn." It was my opinion that a run should get tougher the longer it becomes and I alluded to polishing the balls repeatedly during a run being akin to putting in an escalator near the summit of Mt. Everest. At the time, Mr. Schmidt took great personal umbrage at my comments, and months later, they appeared to still be on his mi
Lou Figueroa[/QUOTE]
Here is the thread that Lou is referring to where John got upset with Lou continually questioning his integrity. You be the judge. (back in the year 2013 long before John broke Mosconi's record)
https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=308661
one exchange:
John:
i know lou well and u have to read between the lines.
its gets old being told how, what, when, where, why, i should do things by somebody who doesnt have as good a understanding as me as all facets involved poolwise.
its funny guys like thorston,oliver ,etc who are my friends and peers never say anything negative or discredit me.
lou has an opinion and it counts but when it comes to pool i value other peoples opinion way over his. guys like hohmann,ortmann etc who are my friends and peers. they clean qballs themselves etc.
they never say anything negative to me about anything ive done poolwise or 14.1 wise.
we have discussed my runs,mosconi,pocket size,etc etc etc.
when guys like that say it discredits a run to clean qball myself i might listen.
until then its just another guy giving me a hard time to hear himself talk.
Lou's reply:
Sorry you feel that way, John.
But, as in every other sport, it not the opinions of the players themselves that count. It is the opinions of the aficionados of the sport that count.
(Lou the aficionado cracks me up)
A little background: not too long ago there was a thread on 14.1 runs and I had opined that, IMO, a player should not pick up the CB to clean it mid-run, but that if the CB required cleaning, it should be done by anyone else but the player. I had also said that IMO, the balls should not be repeatedly run through a ball polisher during a run because it caused the balls to open up like "a bag of spilt popcorn." It was my opinion that a run should get tougher the longer it becomes and I alluded to polishing the balls repeatedly during a run being akin to putting in an escalator near the summit of Mt. Everest. At the time, Mr. Schmidt took great personal umbrage at my comments, and months later, they appeared to still be on his mi
Lou Figueroa[/QUOTE]
Here is the thread that Lou is referring to where John got upset with Lou continually questioning his integrity. You be the judge. (back in the year 2013 long before John broke Mosconi's record)
https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=308661
one exchange:
John:
i know lou well and u have to read between the lines.
its gets old being told how, what, when, where, why, i should do things by somebody who doesnt have as good a understanding as me as all facets involved poolwise.
its funny guys like thorston,oliver ,etc who are my friends and peers never say anything negative or discredit me.
lou has an opinion and it counts but when it comes to pool i value other peoples opinion way over his. guys like hohmann,ortmann etc who are my friends and peers. they clean qballs themselves etc.
they never say anything negative to me about anything ive done poolwise or 14.1 wise.
we have discussed my runs,mosconi,pocket size,etc etc etc.
when guys like that say it discredits a run to clean qball myself i might listen.
until then its just another guy giving me a hard time to hear himself talk.
Lou's reply:
Sorry you feel that way, John.
But, as in every other sport, it not the opinions of the players themselves that count. It is the opinions of the aficionados of the sport that count.
(Lou the aficionado cracks me up)
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Here is the thread that Lou is referring to where John got upset with Lou continually questioning his integrity. You be the judge. (back in the year 2013 long before John broke Mosconi's record)
https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=308661
one exchange:
John:
i know lou well and u have to read between the lines.
its gets old being told how, what, when, where, why, i should do things by somebody who doesnt have as good a understanding as me as all facets involved poolwise.
its funny guys like thorston,oliver ,etc who are my friends and peers never say anything negative or discredit me.
lou has an opinion and it counts but when it comes to pool i value other peoples opinion way over his. guys like hohmann,ortmann etc who are my friends and peers. they clean qballs themselves etc.
they never say anything negative to me about anything ive done poolwise or 14.1 wise.
we have discussed my runs,mosconi,pocket size,etc etc etc.
when guys like that say it discredits a run to clean qball myself i might listen.
until then its just another guy giving me a hard time to hear himself talk.
Lou's reply:
Sorry you feel that way, John.
But, as in every other sport, it not the opinions of the players themselves that count. It is the opinions of the aficionados of the sport that count.
(Lou the aficionado cracks me up)[/QUOTE]
Golf balls get cleaned
Snooker balls get cleaned
Why shouldn’t balls get cleaned at straight pool?
Lol
Lou, you need to face the facts. You, like myself and many others should NEVER open our mouths to "tell" a 600+ ball runner anything about pool and especially about 14.1.
On the other hand, we should ALWAYS "listen up" when a 600+ ball runner is talking.
Lou, in the grand scheme of things, you, me and 99% of the free world aren't even qualified to carry John's case.
I know in your mind, like some others, just because you've run a few balls that you think you understand the game. Well, sir, you don't when talking to a pro.
Sure, when speaking with some you do but, with "any" pro, much less a 600+ ball runner....lol...... that would be the same as the janitor telling the surgeon what he is doing wrong in brain surgery.
Very weird how some people think they are much, much more than they really are. Not saying your nothing Lou, just saying your not someone that can speak on John's or any other pro's level, regardless of how bad you would like to.
Welcome to reality sir.
Jeff
Lou, you need to face the facts. You, like myself and many others should NEVER open our mouths to "tell" a 600+ ball runner anything about pool and especially about 14.1.
On the other hand, we should ALWAYS "listen up" when a 600+ ball runner is talking.
Lou, in the grand scheme of things, you, me and 99% of the free world aren't even qualified to carry John's case.
I know in your mind, like some others, just because you've run a few balls that you think you understand the game. Well, sir, you don't when talking to a pro.
Sure, when speaking with some you do but, with "any" pro, much less a 600+ ball runner....lol...... that would be the same as the janitor telling the surgeon what he is doing wrong in brain surgery.
Very weird how some people think they are much, much more than they really are. Not saying your nothing Lou, just saying your not someone that can speak on John's or any other pro's level, regardless of how bad you would like to.
Welcome to reality sir.
Jeff
Thanks for the reply there Balls. I like your style. Keep on keeping on.
The spot shot should be in every practice routine
The spot shot should be in every practice routine
I'm not gonna take the bait....lol....not hook, line and sinker anyways.
As for the video. Really?
What's it matter in grand scheme of things?
Bottom line to me:
If Lou comes on here and says "hey, fellows, I hit a new personal best in 14.1 today. I ran 156".
Well, I, just like most wouldn't "require" a video to believe him since we know we was a ~100 ball runner on his very food days already.....one day in a bunch. Because it wouldn't be to far of a stretch for Lou to hit 156 on hus very best day and on good conditions.
I can relate with Lou on that because my personal best is 156 but, my 156 was in competition. I've hit several 30, 40, 50+ and outs but my life time high run while in practice is 86.
I would give my left nut to be able to play at John's level. Lol....may as well, she don't let me carry them anyways. She keeps um in her purse for safe keeping.
As far as I know, Lou's runs are below mine but, as I've tried to make him understand.....whether you run 50 or 150....lol....to PLAYERS like John, that don't even feel pressure until he hit 250+....well, it just don't mean anything, literally nothing.
So, when a player thats known to run 300, 350, 400+ balls on a regular basis on video says "hey, I ran 626 after "x" attempts in "x" conditions, well, I tend to believe them.
On the other hand, if some like myself or Lou said they run 626 ball....lol....it would be scary bad till we produced proof.
I'm just wondering how he got to the point of thinking he's a player or someone that can take apart a pro's game or even their integrity.
Not sure what the point would be to go any further because like someone said today in a PM type message, Lou has an ego the size of Canada but has the game he has.
Like I said, welcome to reality.
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You have been stalking John for a decade like a scorned high school girl. You are ridiculous.
I agree. The rake clearly thinks playing pool well has some worth more than, well...playing pool well.
A lot of pros out there have no idea how they do what they do.
Many have demonstrably ill informed concepts about the physics of the game and many have little to zero appreciation for its history. Playing well is overrated when it comes to discussing the game.
Lou Figueroa
Everyone is entitled to their opinion on here as far as I'm concerned. This is a pool "forum" after all. Lou and I tend to not agree on quite a few things, but I would never tell him he cannot disagree with me, just as I can disagree with him. IMO playing ability is irrelevant when it comes to offering opinions. On this forum a rank beginner may have something to add to the conversation that is relevant to him/her. We each can decide for ourselves whose opinion is more valid and carries more weight.
On another subject I like when guys throw shade on another poster with a little brag about their own accomplishments. "Oh by the way my high run is 150." Of course they make sure to remind us of that about a dozen times a year. Hell, I probably do that too. I just have to dig a little deeper to find something to brag about, "I won a game of Banks against Dennis once." :grin:
On another subject I like when guys throw shade on another poster with a little brag about their own accomplishments. "Oh by the way my high run is 150." Of course they make sure to remind us of that about a dozen times a year. Hell, I probably do that too. I just have to dig a little deeper to find something to brag about, "I won a game of Banks against Dennis once." :grin:
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It is a cousin to the “humble brag” and it is an art my friend, make no mistake.
Now many may find this hard to believe but I ran a MFin 8 and out, in a real match, for the win, and continued my run unto 11. I didn’t have video or affidavits, and I’m not 100% positive it’s the world record but it pretty much is. Most pros will only shoot 1 or 2 balls in and then duck, even with a run available, because of dogma and fear...but I am a pioneer of the game. Virtually unstoppable on the blue rug. Also I’m tired.
Everyone’s tugging and pulling in different directions
Why can’t I see anything anymore, anyway
Medicine, methadone, media coverage
Something has broken, my TV
It keeps...telling me I need to be worshipped
And followed to fill this void
I don’t know who I am. Paranoid
Bury me somewhere with less perfect lighting
Please.
Listen to Eyedea and play 1 pocket for the win.
So sad......
I get so tired of posts saying what is wrong with pool, pool needs to be fixed, do this or that to fix pool, etc.
This thread and some of the comments on Johns amazing accomplishment prove once again what is wrong with pool and it is some of the players that "is wrong with pool".
We can't ever have any thing nice and decent and honorable and encouraging and when some one tries to do that for pool they get the AZ treatment. Just plain disgusting.
Lord please bring back dueling again for a few years.
I get so tired of posts saying what is wrong with pool, pool needs to be fixed, do this or that to fix pool, etc.
This thread and some of the comments on Johns amazing accomplishment prove once again what is wrong with pool and it is some of the players that "is wrong with pool".
We can't ever have any thing nice and decent and honorable and encouraging and when some one tries to do that for pool they get the AZ treatment. Just plain disgusting.
Lord please bring back dueling again for a few years.