70 ball run

14-1StraightMan

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I ran 70 tonight with many different type of break shots. I also had a 40 ball run with text book position & break shots. Both runs ended with misses. I lost control of the cue ball in both cases. (lack of concentration)
I have both runs taped on a 25 yr. old RCA camcorder (VHS tape).
I know I can make a DVD from a tape but can a DVD be down loaded into the computer so that I can post it? If not, I am saving up for one of those fancy new recorders, so that I can down load like everyone is doing.
 
good job. it's hard to get high runs recorded. if you want to convert your tapes to digital you can get EyeTv (or similar gizmo) which has inputs for your VCR. the EyeTV interfaces your computer with your VCR. you can then play and or record the video to your hard drive in mpg format.
 
Great run.

You should be able to import it to Windows Movie Maker ( should aready be installed on your computer) and then you can upload it.

Bill
 
congrats on the runs, would definitely like to watch them. If you can make a DVD there is an easy way to convert it to AVI file format. As an example google "dvd2avi" to get such a program. Or just find out other ways to convert MPEG2 (DVD video stream) to any video file (DivX, mp4...). That's damn easy. Go ahead and good luck!

(if you have a way to convert VHS to DVD stay with your good old camcorder. Until there are good and cheap flash memory camcorders on the market ;))
 
Video capture card.

You can convert VHS to AVI (or any other format depending on the software you use) easily with a video capture card. I paid about $50 for mine. Once you have the card and software installed, you simply connect the outputs from the VCR to the inputs of the capture card, hit "play" on the VCR and "record" on the software (you even get to watch the video on the computer) and off you go.
 
Thanks to everyone

Thanks for all the good comments on the run & thanks for helping me out on what to do when it comes to down loading. I will start working on it.
Thanks again.
 
Great run Straightman! I wish I could just break my 27 high run and I would be bragging about that!

About you recording and uploading...
If you are not a tech geek like some of us, you would probably be better off just getting yourself a new lap top with a built in web cam.
That way you have the whole package and everything will be built in.

My self,
I recently bought a new Logitech webcam at Costco for $59..95.
It is plug and play with my laptop that has Windows XP Professional as the operating system. It came with software that is pretty much idiot proof.

My biggest challenge was trying to get the camera mounted to achieve the optimal view of the table and the players and making that so that I can leave it set up. That way when I or we play pool I just need to fire up the laptop, click a few buttons then forget about it til we are done.

If one of us has a GREAT session I know I have it recorded on my hard drive, if nothing worth watching happens then I just hit delete and toss the whole session.:cool:

On those rare occasions when I get something really good I can edit and upload it to the net with out a lot of effort as well.
 
I have both runs taped on a 25 yr. old RCA camcorder (VHS tape).
I know I can make a DVD from a tape but can a DVD be down loaded into the computer so that I can post it?

Nice shooting! Here's the rundown on your question. This will be sort of long, but, I offer it as "a word to the wise" advice from one pool lover to another. Not wanting to see you get into a mess.

There are VERY basically two types of video that get broken down into further types.

Analog and digital. VHS is analog and what is needed to post on the forum, put on a dvd, or just watch on your computer is digital.

There are a few ways to convert analog video into digital video. Some less expensive than others, and as always you get what you pay for.

The cheapest alternative and I wouldn't recommend it to my worse enemy if you plan on doing any more than a very occasional VHS segment, is the USB input to computer style. It has RCA jacks into the converter device, and a USB connection to your computer.

These devices typically use computer SOFTWARE to transcode analog video to digital video. Software based encoding often times lends itself to a ton of problems such as voice running out of sync with video, choppy rendering of video, and on and on.

The better choice is a HARDWARE based converter. A hardware based converter uses specific circuits withing it's unit to do the heavy work of converting.

They take the RCA inputs from your VHS camcorder into it's converting device and outputs them to your computer through a firewire port on your computer. If you don't have one, a firewire card is not very expensive, about 25 or so bucks.

The best bang for your buck HARDWARE based converter is a CANOPUS model 110, or an ADS Pyro, You can find them on ebay I'll bet for about 150 bucks. Its maybe 50 or so dollars more expensive than the cheapo software based USB junk boxes, but you will get perfect conversions.

Digital media gets compressed in order to make file size smaller and conform to various display needs.

Compressing digital video is very resource consuming for your computer, not only does the hardware based encoders help take the load off your computer but they output to a higher quality AVI file type which allows you to start your converting to various digital outputs using the highest starting quality digital source video.

The ironic worse thing about those cheap USB software based converters is that they try to do heavy compression to the MPEG format "ON THE FLY" while you are feeding the video into your computer. Kind of like trying to keep up with packaging items coming at you on a conveyor belt thats running too fast.

You loose frames of video and mess up audio sync as it trys to keep up. If your computer isn't up to date, or if you try to go online or open secondary programs you are really asking for trouble.

Hardware encoders such as the Canopus 110 output to a lightly compressed AVI file.

Here's the final thing. Depending where you want to display your "now" digital video clip, will determine what further work you have to do the the AVI file that is now on your hard drive. Example, WMV file for posting on the internet, MPEG2 for creating a DVD.

Oh, one more thing, that old VHS type camcorder ..... it works a lot better in low light than most consumer based digital camcorders, so if you aren't going to to go crazy with a ton of video shooting, buying a good analog to digital converter instead of a camcorder may be a cheaper way out for you.
 
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Mike buy a logitech 9000. Really good video quality for about 80 bucks. Best bang for your buck.
 
Mike buy a logitech 9000. Really good video quality for about 80 bucks. Best bang for your buck.


So you spend 80 to 100 on a webcam...

you still didn't convert your VHS 70 ball run to digital, (which is the original problem) and ...

you still can't use your VHS camcorder for any future digital conversions or family events to dvd or email or web.

nor can you convert any of your other six zillion VHS tapes to digital that are sitting around the house either. I dunno.

I guess you do end up with a webcam and you can look up Knock Knee Nancy on the internet and pass the time... :shrug:
 
Yes, your right

So you spend 80 to 100 on a webcam...

you still didn't convert your VHS 70 ball run to digital, (which is the original problem) and ...

you still can't use your VHS camcorder for any future digital conversions or family events to dvd or email or web.

nor can you convert any of your other six zillion VHS tapes to digital that are sitting around the house either. I dunno.

I guess you do end up with a webcam and you can look up Knock Knee Nancy on the internet and pass the time... :shrug:


Yes, you are right. I need to copy those VHS tapes over to DVD. We have a bunch of home movies of the kids that need to be changed over too.
 
I can only add to a very detailed post by 3andstop, that apart from hardware video converter you could consider buying a TV tuner with hardware mpeg2 processing (plenty of them don't have this feature), with that you could not only convert analog signal to digital but also make a TV out of a PC. Just to let you know
 
I can only add to a very detailed post by 3andstop, that apart from hardware video converter you could consider buying a TV tuner with hardware mpeg2 processing (plenty of them don't have this feature), with that you could not only convert analog signal to digital but also make a TV out of a PC. Just to let you know

Absolutely true and another viable option. The reason I never mention this option is twofold. First, encoding an analog video to the mpeg2 standard compresses the video 5 times more than the firewire/avi encoder.

This is just fine if the ultimate output is designed to be TV DVD since mpeg2 is that standard. However, if you want to keep your options open, working with an mpeg2 file is much less desirable than working with an AVI file. In fact even if your intention is TV DVD, should you want to do any editing or menuing, again the AVI file is a better choice. Menuing mpeg2 files restricts you to things like GOP frames and its just no where near as precise.

If I may elaborate. Compressing digital video is what is called a "lossy" compression system. Which means basically, to make a file compressed (smaller) you throw out digital information. In other words you loose some of the video information.

The higher the compression the more digital information is lost. No problem so far, unless you want to change the file again. Now you are going to "re-compress" an already compressed file to another format which is called transcoding.

When you transcode it is always best to start out with the richest source digital video file because the new compressed file is going to once again throw out video information when it reduces or changes format.

If the file you are re-compressing is already chopped up into highly reduced video information, then the subsequent transcodings will result in even less definition for the final video output.

So lets say you want to output to WMV for internet. Starting with an AVI file (which is compressed 5 times less than mpeg2) will result in a much better WMV product than trying to re-compress the already highly compressed mpeg2 source that has had 5 times as much video information discarded even before you start transcoding to other file formats.

Secondly, and a very remote second at that, installing internal hardware cards to PCI slots can in and of themselves present IRQ issues and system troubles such as having to rely on the PC power supply to power the encoder that can take tweaking that someone who doesn't fiddle with computers can get hung up in.

Anyway, I do this stuff and speak from being the guy who's been in these jams and who's come close on many occasions to smashing my computer with a hammer. :)
 
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