Stripes. 15 and break out the 14, if I get the right angle on the 9, i would break out the 10, if not the 13 goes in the pocket by the 10, so I would have those two balls to try and get the right angle to break out the 10 or might get right on the 14 to get the angle I would need on the 9 to break out the 10, the 11 goes and so does the 12. Stripes are much easier to run here. This is internet pool so I don't look to make any mistakes!
8 Ball Analyze: Rack #15
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I would take solids. I would leave the 5 ball for later. It will be an easy breakout later off the 6 ball. My first shot is to shoot the 7 ball in the side and not only break out the 8 ball but play the cueball to cut his 12 ball into the 3/14 ball cluster. If I hit it good the 8 ball wont move but it will be open. If I execute that first shot and breakout the 8 ball and the 3 ball I have the game. If not I still have 6 balls on the table, his 10 ball is still tied up the 5 ball and I can either try a different run out plan or look to play safe.
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That's what I was thinking. The angle looks good from that side shot to get that 3 opened up.
The 12 banks short of the 3/14. Closer to banking into the 9 area.
Solids are going to have a tough time getting the 5 broke out unless you get a good angle on the six. If you had just a little more angle now and could use that as your first shot, you would be alright. The way it stands as a shot for later...I don't see how you are going to get back over in that position.
Either way, you are breaking out the 5 or the 3 last and that pretty dangerous
Solids are going to have a tough time getting the 5 broke out unless you get a good angle on the six. If you had just a little more angle now and could use that as your first shot, you would be alright. The way it stands as a shot for later...I don't see how you are going to get back over in that position.
Either way, you are breaking out the 5 or the 3 last and that pretty dangerous
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You could play the 4 as the opening shot and use that to break out the 5. But that's missable.
To me the real disadvantage for solids is the 3-14 cluster. You have to deal with that and there's no natural way to break it out and no lock-up safe.
You can easily break out the 5 of the 6 with where the cue ball lies in the picture. Look at the tangent line off the 6. You have to hit with a little speed, but not that much.
Just tried it on my barbox, (exact same principles apply) and got it first try. All you have to do is be familiar with the tangent line, the 30 degree rule, and english parameters. One tip of follow, one tip of right, firm stroke.
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I see the bank on the 5 as well. Looks dead after pocketing the 6.
Doesn't look that way in the photo, but I will take your word for it.
The only other thought was that after breaking out the 5 on the first shot, you leave the cue ball down in the area of the breakout. This leaves you with a bad breakout shot on the 7 cluster.
I think you hit the 7, but then slide into the 12, not the 8 and therefore still have the 8/11 cluster to deal with. also, cue will travel up table and may hook yourself for the 4 with the 8/11.
You may need to shoot the 1 after the 5 breakout and go that route.
You are not making the 7 ball and hitting the 8 ball and trying to bank the 12 ball into the 3/14.. You are making the 7 ball and billiarding the 12 ball straight down into the 3/14 balls the 8 ball doesn't even move and is now makeable.
I see what you are saying. I thought by the shot that the cb would go more into the 8 and then that you were thinking that the 12 would bank into the 3/14 and break it out.
I see the shot that you are attempting now.
Great how everything works out perfect on in photo pool.
I see what you are saying. I thought by the shot that the cb would go more into the 8 and then that you were thinking that the 12 would bank into the 3/14 and break it out.
I see the shot that you are attempting now.
Great how everything works out perfect on in photo pool.
When you play 8 ball you want to deal with your trouble balls first. The 5 ball will be easy to break up later in the game using the 6 ball and having the other balls down to to shoot at after the breakout. The people suggesting to break the 5 ball out the first shot are just helping out your opponent. The 3/14 ball cluster will decide the game. The strengths of my first shot are.... 1. instead of trying to break the 3/14 out with the cueball after making one of your balls at some point of the game you are using one of his balls to try and break it out. There are none of your balls by the 3/14 so if you break it out with the cueball there is no gaurantee you will have a shot at something else. By billiarding the 12 ball into the 3/14 you are able to keep the cueball around the middle of the table with plenty of other options. 2. By going for my shot first if it doesnt work you haven't taken alot of your balls off the table. You can still change plans and form a different attack.
If one is going to choose solids, I like this approach.