I had this situation during APA league play. My opponent (stripes) played a safety (defense). I am on the 8 ball. Am I right to go for the masse shot for the win?
8-ball game situation?
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Ugh, I don't like the situation at all but my inclination is to play safe and try to get the cueball to hide behind the 8-ball. Even if I don't nail the safety, I know I'm likely getting another shot since the 8-ball is infront of stripes' favorite pocket.
okinawa77 said:
You may as well just give your opponent the game if you try that. The Masse in this case is such a low percentage you have about the same chance of fouling and giving your opponent ball in hand.
This safety is easy to execute and you don't sell out.
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okinawa77 said:
I'd say it's harder for him to leave you safe. Every ball he contacts gets moved and possibly gives you a shot on the 8. for example:
supergreenman said:
I agree, unless you are frozen to one of his balls there are very few spots on the table that do not provide a good shot or a kick for you. I would have played safe for sure.
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First off,thats a hellhuva masse.
While I might be able to pull it off,I sure wouldn't try it for the money.Very low pecentage shot fo me no doubt.
Considering the above quote I'd say for the cue to get that high off the 15 then the 15 is gonna move a good bit..which would let you rail in with the cue and kick the 8 if the 13 is a blocking a bit.
Unless of course he barely nicks the 15...which as mentioned,is a pretty tough shot.
Oh, come on! Mike Massey can do it one handed, standing on one leg. I've actually seen him at California Billiards. He can masse with ease. This masse shot is relatively easy. The biggest worry about this masse shot is imparting too much spin. You don't want the cue ball following the 8 into the pocket.
APA!? I masse it alllllll day. It depends on where the OB is in relation to the rail. I made this one the other day........
I was proud of myself, kicked in the 8 haha, buckets.
Eric.
I was proud of myself, kicked in the 8 haha, buckets.
Eric.
okinawa77 said:
Then you go rail-first (long rail, which is left open since the stripe contacted in the kick-safe is now gone from the area) and kick in the 8 - a FAR safer and higher-percentage option than that masse.
For those that have practiced the shot, that masse isn't a hard one, EXCEPT for the fact that you have to make the CB turn back before contacting any of those stripes. Ever so slightly too much stroke, and you give up ball in hand, which is suicide here, because your opponent can use it to run those stripes from the inside, so they aren't blocked by the 8.
Always take a shot that's guaranteed to get you another turn at the table rather than one that has a very good chance of being your last.
-Andrew
Patrick Johnson said:
I agree.........