8-ball layout - how do you run out this table?

[Mr Hoppe]

I'd start with the 7... playing to get whitey back between the 5 and the 11. Assuming that I did, I'd shoot the 5 down the rail to the lower LH corner, drawing whitey back a bit in order to get a ~40 degree cut on the 6 into the corner pocket where the 7 used to be, playing position to get down-table for a shot on the 4... trying to leave a ~40 degree cut into the upper LH corner... shooting with draw to play 2-rail shape for the 8 into the same corner pocket where I made the 7 and the 6.

The first shot on the 7 is the key. Get back to the rail in between the 5 and the 11 and you're pretty much home if you can make that 5 down the rail.

This is what I would have done (I mean tried) as well. Trying to pocket the 11 by kicking into the 6 off of another ball with inside english is a rather low percentage play for most of us mortals. If the 11 doesn't drop you'll only be left with a bank on the 6 if you're lucky...

 

[Jude Rosenstock]

We now all know what Efren DID. But it's a distinct possibility that he might have been trying to make the 11 from the 7 without hitting the 6.

Which would have been equally effective. I think he deliberately ran into the 6. I think he hoped the 11 would drop. I think he figured if it didn't, he would still be in better position than when he first got to the table. The absolute worst case scenario would be if he just clips the 6-ball. Then he's gonna lose.

 

[kaznj]

There are some good suggestions here. If you would indulge me for a moment and allow me to change the scenerio to get some suggestions. What if you are the captain of your apa team. You have a 4 at the table. He calls a time out. What do you tell him? A 4 would be able to pocket the 7 and maybe get position on the 4 ball. He might be able to get around after the 7 to play the 5. For a 4 pocketing the 5 off of the eleven or pocketing the 11 and leaving the 5 to block the pocket is a 50-50 proposition. He couldn't say which would happen.

 

[Neil]

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[Patrick Johnson]

Being a sporting fellow, I wanted to try the 6 ball slice shot for myself. Look at all 4 pages below to see how the first try went:

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[CrownCityCorey]

Your turn at the table, you've got solids. What do you do?

(After some suggestions here I will post what Efren did when facing this layout)

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Play the 6-7 combo and bump the 5 towards the side pocket. Depending on how it comes out, you will be shooting the 5 or 6 (which will be sitting in front of the pocket) next.

A little tought for a rightie to reach the 6 ball cut shot, but this pattern/strategy will come out favorable 90% of the time.

 

[Jude Rosenstock]

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Play the 6-7 combo and bump the 5 towards the side pocket. Depending on how it comes out, you will be shooting the 5 or 6 (which will be sitting in front of the pocket) next.

A little tought for a rightie to reach the 6 ball cut shot, but this pattern/strategy will come out favorable 90% of the time.

I think your diagram imagination might be forgetting a few things. You're going to be jacked-up a little on that 6-ball which means you're going to be masseing to the right when you try to cut it in. I think the odds of making the combination drop significantly with this.

To cut to the chase, if I thought I could go this way, I would. I think it's the best way to go. I just think that once I need to elevate AND get a lot of spin, this option goes out the window. At least, for me it does.

 

[Poolshootindon]

Thinking toooo much

Sometimes we make a mountain out of a mole hill...Anyone with decent cue ball control should play the 7 in the corner moving the cue ball to get an angle on the 4..Depending on where you cue ball ends up you can either play 1 rail off the side rail or 3 rails off the end rail..Dont be afraid to hit the 11 ball because it is a good stopper..play either the 5 or 6 and then the other and your home free...Ahhh...I love it when a good plan comes together...Now if only i could do it.... "-)

 

[catscradle]

I'd probably play a safe, but if I had to try to run out I would try to shoot the 7 in with a little right and a little high to try to bring it back under the 5. Then shoot the 5 drawing down the rail a little for the 6, depending upon the angle on the 6 either getting position for the 8 in the side or the corner (probably would wind up in between the right postion for either)

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Opps, didn't see the 4, now let me think... same thing except going up table for the 4 after the 6.

 

[catscradle]

There are some good suggestions here. If you would indulge me for a moment and allow me to change the scenerio to get some suggestions. What if you are the captain of your apa team. You have a 4 at the table. He calls a time out. What do you tell him?

"I hope you are religious, because now is a good time to pray."

Definitely tell him to play save, especially if he is playing another 4 or lower.
Since it is the APA, you can't call safe and pocket a ball so I'd tell him to just skim the 6 with the cue going towards the 7, keeping the 6 blocking the path to his 11. If his opponent can kick in the 11 or pocket the 10 at a the resulting tough angle, more power to him.

 

[Cory in DC]

I am putting up the answer already, have to hit the bed. But thanks for your suggestions

Efren chose the easy route

I know it's Efren, but I'm guessing he was hoping to get the 6 to hit the 11 full and sit by the corner pocket.

 

[miha]

i'm sure if the situation on the table was diagrammed correctly, people wouldn't look at it as a hail mary type of shot. notice that the four ball in the upper corner was placed almost half a diamond closer to the pocket, when compared to the diagram. i guess efren saw it as a decent insurance ball.

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