8 ball rule question.

[TrxR]

Player breaks dry with no balls down. Next player gets up calls 11 in corner pocket but missed the 11 and hit the 2 ball but didn't pocket it. I believe this is just a missed shot and not a foul as the table is still open.

Is this correct? Had a player determined it was a foul and ball in hand.

 

[ChrisinNC]

Player breaks dry with no balls down. Next player gets up calls 11 in corner pocket but missed the 11 and hit the 2 ball but didn't pocket it. I believe this is just a missed shot and not a foul as the table is still open.

Is this correct? Had a player determined it was a foul and ball in hand.

As long as any ball made it to a rail after contact from the cue ball, no foul.

 

[TrxR]

As long as any ball made it to a rail after contact from the cue ball, no foul.

There was rail contact after the hit.

 

[straightline]

Most open after the break rules allow mixed combos while the table is open. If you wish to stiffen that up you'd need to establish that modification before play starts.

 

[buckshotshoey]

OpenTable.. no foul. Even if he made the two after calling the 11 it is no foul. Just open table for the opponent because no group was established and the called ball was not made. Only three ways you can file on an open table are a cue ball foul, contacting the 8th first, or scratching. But that depends on the rule set you're using. For instance, when playing Texas Express, the 8 ball is neutral on an open table.

And that's just if you're playing by league rules. Playing by bar rules, who the flock knows. There's so much bullshit people come up with when playing bar rules.... and most of which they never tell you about at the start of the game.

 

[gregcantrall]

Can't strike the 8 first. Just call ball and pocket. Other hits are good with open table.

 

[measureman]

Can't strike the 8 first. Just call ball and pocket. Other hits are good with open table.

The rules I played league under allowed hitting the 8 first to use in a combo if no other balls had been made on the break.
The 8 was neutral until a ball was pocketed.

 

[gregcantrall]

The rules I played league under allowed hitting the 8 first to use in a combo if no other balls had been made on the break.
The 8 was neutral until a ball was pocketed.

I am speaking BCAPL

 

[Bob Jewett]

Player breaks dry with no balls down. Next player gets up calls 11 in corner pocket but missed the 11 and hit the 2 ball but didn't pocket it. I believe this is just a missed shot and not a foul as the table is still open.

Is this correct? Had a player determined it was a foul and ball in hand.

Under the rules of CSI/BCAPL/USAPL and the World Standardized Rules (WPA), until groups are determined, you may play a stripe-solid combo, so it's OK to hit the other group first. In those two rule sets, you are not allowed to hit the eight first when the table is open.

The full rule book for the BCAPL (CSI), which has a lot of explanations for various situations, is free for download on the CSI website:

BCA Pool League Rules

Rules used by the BCA Pool League

www.playcsipool.com

 

[measureman]

I am speaking BCAPL

The league I played in was in house and not sanctioned by anyone.
They made their own rules and no sanctioning fees.

 

[gregcantrall]

I find it a good rule set, no charge to use them.
Digital e available on line.

 

[straightline]

What color is the 5?

 

[Fatboy]

What color is the 5?

That’s the real question here

 

[TrxR]

Thanks everyone. I got to find out what rules set they are actually using. It's a local Canadian Legion league but I know they are using an actual rule set and no one they made up themselves.

Well it looks like the Legion use WPA rules according to their website. I'm going to print them out to have on hand at the local league as they don't seem to have any there.

 

[TrxR]

What color is the 5?

It's orange

 

[Fatboy]

It's orange

Excellent. Best news all day!

 

[Joe_Jaguar]

Thanks everyone. I got to find out what rules set they are actually using. It's a local Canadian Legion league but I know they are using an actual rule set and no one they made up themselves.

Well it looks like the Legion use WPA rules according to their website. I'm going to print them out to have on hand at the local league as they don't seem to have any there.

you should have led off by saying this a Canuck thing

 

[tomatoshooter]

There's so much bullshit people come up with when playing bar rules.... and most of which they never tell you about at the start of the game.

"Everybody knows the rule is...."
Until everybody has a legitimate tournament played by those rules, everybody can shut his pie hole.

you should have led off by saying this a Canuck thing

The rules are different north of the 49th parallel.

 

[hang-the-9]

Player breaks dry with no balls down. Next player gets up calls 11 in corner pocket but missed the 11 and hit the 2 ball but didn't pocket it. I believe this is just a missed shot and not a foul as the table is still open.

Is this correct? Had a player determined it was a foul and ball in hand.

Sounds like that player got taught by his uncle who "used to be good in college" hehe.
Another funny rule I have seen is that when someone had ball in hand, put down the cueball and picked it up again, I have seen people say that was a foul.

 

[hurricane145]

Sounds like that player got taught by his uncle who "used to be good in college" hehe.
Another funny rule I have seen is that when someone had ball in hand, put down the cueball and picked it up again, I have seen people say that was a foul.

Do they think it's like chess and the moment you let go of the piece it is then placed and can't be moved again?
Some people do like to try and make up the rules as they go along.