8 Ball, You're Stripes.......
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i would try to leave them as tough as i could by playing the rail more straight and using left off the rail to clip the nine and move the cue to the opposite pocket area...........
Bigtruck said:Situations like this one is one of the things that I really like about 8ball.
I was stripes in this game and ended up winning the rack and match. There are some good ideas here. I appreciate all of them. I agree it seemed bleek, but it unfolded in my favor.
Your Shot! Ball in hand
Ray
I am shooting the 2 ball off the side rail and then off the eight, following down for a shot on the 1
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Maybe??
It's hard to tell on the diagram, but there is barely the width of a ball open to the pocket. Rail first, while possible, would be very low percentage.
My opponent moved the 2 closer to the 8-9. Page 2 of this diagram is what I did next.
Ray
jbullerjr said:
It's hard to tell on the diagram, but there is barely the width of a ball open to the pocket. Rail first, while possible, would be very low percentage.
My opponent moved the 2 closer to the 8-9. Page 2 of this diagram is what I did next.
Ray
Exactly
Only he over rolled it and left me a shot at the 2 in the side.
Tried to re-position the one next. I pocketed that as well.
Now he was on the 8 with ball in hand. Here's what he left me. Page 3 please.
jbullerjr said:
Only he over rolled it and left me a shot at the 2 in the side.
Tried to re-position the one next. I pocketed that as well.
Now he was on the 8 with ball in hand. Here's what he left me. Page 3 please.
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ouch?!
on our tables, using the 5 to carom off the 8 is a hanger. Not trying to sound like hot shit or anything, I think it's just that our pockets are like basketball hoops. Knowing that, I wouldn't want to give BIH.
I would attempt to kick into the 9 with a fair amount of left spin. The idea is to hit the 9 as full as you can without touching the 8 first and make the 9 fall between the CB and the 1. The CB will be very far from the 5 and 2, and the opponent's bridging will hopefully be hampered by the 8, making them both pretty tough.
The down side is that this is only a temporary fix... the 9 is not moved into a place where it can be sunk, and if the opponent just hits the 2 ball and leaves the CB somewhere around the bottom right corner, it's pretty impossible to bank as well, so they're still probably gonna win. You just have to hope they're dumb enough to hang themselves by trying to sink the ball and missing, leaving you that bank or a better safety.
on our tables, using the 5 to carom off the 8 is a hanger. Not trying to sound like hot shit or anything, I think it's just that our pockets are like basketball hoops. Knowing that, I wouldn't want to give BIH.
I would attempt to kick into the 9 with a fair amount of left spin. The idea is to hit the 9 as full as you can without touching the 8 first and make the 9 fall between the CB and the 1. The CB will be very far from the 5 and 2, and the opponent's bridging will hopefully be hampered by the 8, making them both pretty tough.
The down side is that this is only a temporary fix... the 9 is not moved into a place where it can be sunk, and if the opponent just hits the 2 ball and leaves the CB somewhere around the bottom right corner, it's pretty impossible to bank as well, so they're still probably gonna win. You just have to hope they're dumb enough to hang themselves by trying to sink the ball and missing, leaving you that bank or a better safety.
Agree with SJM I don't see a way out for stripes here...
However, if I really have to go for it against a good player, the following would be my choice. It is actually a 1p shot I learned from flaco. Note there is a lot of spin when the ob reaches the second rail
Not a high percentage shot but it is the only one I can see..
However, if I really have to go for it against a good player, the following would be my choice. It is actually a 1p shot I learned from flaco. Note there is a lot of spin when the ob reaches the second rail
Not a high percentage shot but it is the only one I can see..
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Bigtruck said:
Without looking at any responses, unless solids is a banger, he wins 98% of the time here..
Stripes cannot separate the 8 and his last ball, and whatever he does, solids takes ball in hand and plays an off the rail, off the 8 ball shot on one of his downtable balls, and he will separate the 8 and run out.
If someone can show me some way out of this, they are really teaching me something, and I will actually appreciate the knowledge.
In short, stris should never have run to his 6th ball without having a high percentage breakout plan. If he had a plan and just did not execute well, then his punishment is to lose this game.
Sometimes, the answers to these quizzes is "Get prepared to lose the game."
Russ