9 ball break: making the 1 in the side

Egg McDogit

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was talking with some friends about this the other day. We were disagreeing on whether it was better to make the 1 ball in the side or to have it bank off the long rail towards the crosscorner pocket. If you're consistently making the wingball, do you still go for the 1 as an issurance policy, or try to get it near the corner pocket for a shot after the break? let's leave racking ethics out of this one
 
Egg McDogit said:
If you're consistently making the wingball, do you still go for the 1 as an issurance policy, or try to get it near the corner pocket for a shot after the break? let's leave racking ethics out of this one

I like the BREAK Shot where I am attempting to make the wing ball. I also try to cause the Cue Ball to hit the near Long Rail & bank across to the opposite Long Rail, where a shot on the 1-Ball will be.

Making the 1-Ball in the side pocket is OK, but where is the 2-Ball.

Maing a ball on the break & getting a shot at the next object ball can allow you to pocket the next object ball or play safe. If your opponent continually comes to a table & has to kick or play safe... patience can easily wear thin.

Good Luck...
 
Egg McDogit said:
was talking with some friends about this the other day. We were disagreeing on whether it was better to make the 1 ball in the side or to have it bank off the long rail towards the crosscorner pocket. If you're consistently making the wingball, do you still go for the 1 as an issurance policy, or try to get it near the corner pocket for a shot after the break? let's leave racking ethics out of this one

Personally, breaking the 1 in the side is a secondary break goal for me. If the wing ball is going, you have a better chance of setting up a runout by NOT making the 1 and sending it near the corner pocket for your first shot. If the table is breaking tough, then I would find out where the 2 ball is and try to break it into a makable place (don't leave it on the footrail), while playing the 1 in the side.

Of course, this is in a perfect world. Worse comes to worse, send the CB flying off the table and then it's not your worry :p


Eric
 
Splinterhands said:
The idea is to make a wing ball and control the path of the one-ball and cue- ball.

Personally I try for both, and then adjust depending on which I can make with any kind of regularity. My break however is not nearly reliable enough that I can get a huge amount of consistency in this, especially if I also keep control of the cue ball.

Once your break is so consistent and accurate you can actually choose whether you want to make the 1 or the wing ball and where you want to leave the cue ball you will not need to ask advice of us amateurs on what is the better tactic.
 
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Mike Siegel banked the one up to the corner better than anyone I have ever seen and it was always close to the corner and the CB always in the center of the table.
But what I really wanted to know was who was the first player that figured out how to make the 1 in the side?????
 
im going to come out and be honest... i just started playing pool about two months ago and my break is as inconsistant as a high school girls emotions.... anyways... reading all of you talk about where you like the balls to go and all i think on the break is "white ball dont go in!!!" sooo... a funny story though.. i was playing with a friwnd that has been playing much longer than i... and i beat him and then he said "im going to make you earn this one" and by that he meant play nine ball... i vamt completely control the cue ball like i want yet.. so... we played it was fun... really points out your weaknesses nine ball does.. anyways... on the very last break i think i made like three balls or four balls on the break.. it was great watching those balls go in... not that good in the scheme of things... but good for me
 
i've never played with a sardo, but i think that with the sardo, it is a lot easier to consistently get 1 in the side and use a softer break. i see that break a lot in tournies like US Open that use sardo.
 
i used a table with the sardo rack a few times trying to make the 1 in the side, wasnt really working for me, the corner ball was much easier and it was pretty easy to make the 1 go towards the other corner if not in.
 
Egg McDogit said:
was talking with some friends about this the other day. We were disagreeing on whether it was better to make the 1 ball in the side or to have it bank off the long rail towards the crosscorner pocket. If you're consistently making the wingball, do you still go for the 1 as an issurance policy, or try to get it near the corner pocket for a shot after the break? let's leave racking ethics out of this one

Johnny Archer has made a living for years setting up shots on the one ball in one of the back corner pockets. If you feel confident of pocketing a corner ball, I think it's the way to go.
 
my opinion was that you should go for the wingball and get a shot on the 1. My friends were strongly of the opinion that you should go for the wingball and the 1 to make sure you give yourself a chance to control the table - and told me my way of thinking is 'wrong'. Any of the other champions on this forum have an opinion on this?
 
Personally ...

The only I concentrate on is breaking the right
way, making 'any' ball, and having a shot on the
1. (I don't worry about the 2, because I can get
to it almost always). But, if I break, and notice
a ball going pretty consistently into the same
pocket and have a good layout, then I try to
ride that horse as long as I can.
 
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