9-Ball Chaos

[Drawback]

My apologies if I’ve posted this topic in the wrong area. Please move it if need be.

After entering a 9-Ball “tournament” last night, I’ve decided not to ever enter one like this one again.

The event was alternate break/rack. No problem with that. What I didn’t care for was the fact that after a player hit the properly numbered ball any ball on the table could be potted from “slop” shooting and the player could continue on pounding the balls as hard as he/she could hit them in the hopes that another ball or two would slop their way into a pocket. No need to call any shot…even the 9. Doesn’t matter a bit. Hey, if you move a ball a little with the cue, just put it back somewhere near where it was and keep on slopping.

Everyone in the room was playing in an identical fashion. There wasn’t one person taking any time at all to find an aim line and plan for the next ball, just arrive at the table, quickly find the object ball and bang away and hope for a pot and shape.

Never again. Unless it’s "call shot, call pocket, call 9-Ball" or the hell with it.

 

[Black-Balled]

I thought that as long as you contact the lowest ball on the table forst, calling a pocket wasn't necessary.

I also thought that a player that aims is far more likely to win over one wh hopes.

I don't know the 9ball too goodly, but I'd like to play that tournament 8 days a week.

 

[jasonlaus]

My apologies if I’ve posted this topic in the wrong area. Please move it if need be.

After entering a 9-Ball “tournament” last night, I’ve decided not to ever enter one like this one again.

The event was alternate break/rack. No problem with that. What I didn’t care for was the fact that after a player hit the properly numbered ball any ball on the table could be potted from “slop” shooting and the player could continue on pounding the balls as hard as he/she could hit them in the hopes that another ball or two would slop their way into a pocket. No need to call any shot…even the 9. Doesn’t matter a bit. Hey, if you move a ball a little with the cue, just put it back somewhere near where it was and keep on slopping.

Everyone in the room was playing in an identical fashion. There wasn’t one person taking any time at all to find an aim line and plan for the next ball, just arrive at the table, quickly find the object ball and bang away and hope for a pot and shape.

Never again. Unless it’s "call shot, call pocket, call 9-Ball" or the hell with it.

I'm so confused

 

[MitchAlsup]

That is (IS) modern 9-ball.

 

[whammo57]

My apologies if I’ve posted this topic in the wrong area. Please move it if need be.

After entering a 9-Ball “tournament” last night, I’ve decided not to ever enter one like this one again.

The event was alternate break/rack. No problem with that. What I didn’t care for was the fact that after a player hit the properly numbered ball any ball on the table could be potted from “slop” shooting and the player could continue on pounding the balls as hard as he/she could hit them in the hopes that another ball or two would slop their way into a pocket. No need to call any shot…even the 9. Doesn’t matter a bit. Hey, if you move a ball a little with the cue, just put it back somewhere near where it was and keep on slopping.

Everyone in the room was playing in an identical fashion. There wasn’t one person taking any time at all to find an aim line and plan for the next ball, just arrive at the table, quickly find the object ball and bang away and hope for a pot and shape.

Never again. Unless it’s "call shot, call pocket, call 9-Ball" or the hell with it.

Do you really understand the rules to 9 ball???


KIm

 

[alstl]

My apologies if I’ve posted this topic in the wrong area. Please move it if need be.

After entering a 9-Ball “tournament” last night, I’ve decided not to ever enter one like this one again.

The event was alternate break/rack. No problem with that. What I didn’t care for was the fact that after a player hit the properly numbered ball any ball on the table could be potted from “slop” shooting and the player could continue on pounding the balls as hard as he/she could hit them in the hopes that another ball or two would slop their way into a pocket. No need to call any shot…even the 9. Doesn’t matter a bit. Hey, if you move a ball a little with the cue, just put it back somewhere near where it was and keep on slopping.

Everyone in the room was playing in an identical fashion. There wasn’t one person taking any time at all to find an aim line and plan for the next ball, just arrive at the table, quickly find the object ball and bang away and hope for a pot and shape.

Never again. Unless it’s "call shot, call pocket, call 9-Ball" or the hell with it.

If I knew in advance everybody in a tournament would play as you describe I would enter the tournament and buy myself in the Calcutta.

 

[Nostroke]

Im a D player and i will play anyone in that tourny for cash if they all play like that. I suspect they dont or you have really stumbled on a 'special group'.

 

[kol]

As others have already said, that's just how 9ball works. In some rule sets you're required to call the 9 but even then you can call the 9 early and miss it, but slop in another ball and still continue shooting. So many bangers will call the 9 every shot "just in case". Ever heard the phrase "fire at it"? If you don't like these rules try 10ball?

 

[rhatten]

That is (IS) modern 9-ball.

This is (IS) why pool is dying. This IS why we don't risk 'the gamble' we use to at this specific Texas Express 9B style game. ...And even at the local level, how can you handicap a game of luck...?

Tournament directors (and players) need to stop offering this crap as the "go to" game. The Mezz West Tour's 10 ball game is a good starting point if you can't figure out how to clean this TE 9 ball mess out of pool. Stop supporting BAD pool game structure like TE 9B.

10 Ball (WPA rules), American Rotation (2014 forward), no slop 8 or 9 ball would be better that what is being offered as the 'death nail' to pool....thats Todays TE 9-Ball. Ask your Tournament Directors to make the change as much and as often as possible so we collectively can increase the quality(fairness) of both the game and the player field.... NO ONE likes to lose or win by making a fluke shot.

I'm not sure why its even in a national (or regional) event any more. We are not going on ESPN anytime in to next 10 years so why keep killing the sport by running people off with this crap for a game???? BS its the most popular, just BS. Stop the insanity.... Stop doing the same thing over and over because its what has always been done. Make pool better *(while you can)

R

 

[hang-the-9]

My apologies if I’ve posted this topic in the wrong area. Please move it if need be.

After entering a 9-Ball “tournament” last night, I’ve decided not to ever enter one like this one again.

The event was alternate break/rack. No problem with that. What I didn’t care for was the fact that after a player hit the properly numbered ball any ball on the table could be potted from “slop” shooting and the player could continue on pounding the balls as hard as he/she could hit them in the hopes that another ball or two would slop their way into a pocket. No need to call any shot…even the 9. Doesn’t matter a bit. Hey, if you move a ball a little with the cue, just put it back somewhere near where it was and keep on slopping.

Everyone in the room was playing in an identical fashion. There wasn’t one person taking any time at all to find an aim line and plan for the next ball, just arrive at the table, quickly find the object ball and bang away and hope for a pot and shape.

Never again. Unless it’s "call shot, call pocket, call 9-Ball" or the hell with it.

Sounds like a normal way for bad players to play 9 ball, and it's all fine with 9 ball rules. Even the moving of the ball accidentally during a shot. The call pocket 9 ball is a special modification.

 

[carolina_8ball]

Welcome to the wonderful world of POKE and HOPE 9 ball. You didn't specify what kind of table you were playing on, BUT this is most commonly found on VALLEY BARBOXES. For every good 9 ball player, there are 10,000 BANGERS. PLAY 8 ball tourny's or none on BAR TABLES.

 

[BeiberLvr]

This is (IS) why pool is dying. This IS why we don't risk 'the gamble' we use to at this specific Texas Express 9B style game. ...And even at the local level, how can you handicap a game of luck...?

Tournament directors (and players) need to stop offering this crap as the "go to" game. The Mezz West Tour's 10 ball game is a good starting point if you can't figure out how to clean this TE 9 ball mess out of pool. Stop supporting BAD pool game structure like TE 9B.

10 Ball (WPA rules), American Rotation (2014 forward), no slop 8 or 9 ball would be better that what is being offered as the 'death nail' to pool....thats Todays TE 9-Ball. Ask your Tournament Directors to make the change as much and as often as possible so we collectively can increase the quality(fairness) of both the game and the player field.... NO ONE likes to lose or win by making a fluke shot.

I'm not sure why its even in a national (or regional) event any more. We are not going on ESPN anytime in to next 10 years so why keep killing the sport by running people off with this crap for a game???? BS its the most popular, just BS. Stop the insanity.... Stop doing the same thing over and over because its what has always been done. Make pool better *(while you can)

R

While you're at it...

Tell the NFL that if a pass goes off a receiver's helmet, and gets intercepted, that it be ruled an incomplete pass.

Tell the PGA that if a drive goes off a tree and still lands on the fairway, that the player must put the ball by the tree it hit.

Tell the NBA that if a player dunks the ball, and it pops out but goes back in, that the points don't count.

 

[ctyhntr]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekxqsN1hpY4
Gist of 9-ball as explained by Martin Scorsese

9-ball is rotation pool. The balls are pocketed in numbered order. The only ball that means anything...that wins it, is the 9.

The player can shoot eight trick shots in a row...blow the 9 and lose. On the other hand...the player can get the 9 in on the break...

if the balls spread right, and win. Which is to say that luck plays a part in 9-ball.
But for some players...Luck itself is an art.

9-ball has it roots a gambling game. The luck factor is a big appeal. As other posters have pointed out. Its like complaining that water is wet. Texas Express, the version most commonly played today was picked to showcase pool when it had its second revival by the movie The Color of Money.

If you don't like the luck factor, then seek an 8-ball or 14.1 tournament/league.

 

[Hajidub]

While you're at it...

Tell the NFL that if a pass goes off a receiver's helmet, and gets intercepted, that it be ruled an incomplete pass.

Tell the PGA that if a drive goes off a tree and still lands on the fairway, that the player must put the ball by the tree it hit.

Tell the NBA that if a player dunks the ball, and it pops out but goes back in, that the points don't count.

I know right? I'm never playing "BY THE RULES" again!!!!

 

[fastone371]

Those are regular 9 ball rules, if you do not care for them try 10 ball. I just played in a 9 ball tournament with over 100 entries and finished high on Thursday and Friday. I did not see any poke and hope shots and saw very little "accidentally" pocketed balls other than one 9 that I made on a break in the break side corner pocket.

 

[KMRUNOUT]

My apologies if I’ve posted this topic in the wrong area. Please move it if need be.

After entering a 9-Ball “tournament” last night, I’ve decided not to ever enter one like this one again.

The event was alternate break/rack. No problem with that. What I didn’t care for was the fact that after a player hit the properly numbered ball any ball on the table could be potted from “slop” shooting and the player could continue on pounding the balls as hard as he/she could hit them in the hopes that another ball or two would slop their way into a pocket. No need to call any shot…even the 9. Doesn’t matter a bit. Hey, if you move a ball a little with the cue, just put it back somewhere near where it was and keep on slopping.

Everyone in the room was playing in an identical fashion. There wasn’t one person taking any time at all to find an aim line and plan for the next ball, just arrive at the table, quickly find the object ball and bang away and hope for a pot and shape.

Never again. Unless it’s "call shot, call pocket, call 9-Ball" or the hell with it.

Hmm...what you describe is 9 ball. It seems you are implying that you are more skilled than the other players. You should have won anyway. No way people are going to slop their way through a whole tournament. Plus you said its alternating break, so you always have your chances too. Its hard to find the problem in what you say. Is the way those people played disgusting? Sure. So was it luck that beat you or was it your own disgust? I know that feeling myself, that's why I ask. I have never lost a whole tournament because of slop. Racks here and there. Usually it makes me the most mad when I am playing like crap and can't get out...then the slop can matter. But that's my fault, not theirs. I'm surprised to would declare to all the forum that you are so easily overcome and are giving up on yourself.

KMRUNOUT

 

[Drawback]

Welcome to the wonderful world of POKE and HOPE 9 ball. You didn't specify what kind of table you were playing on, BUT this is most commonly found on VALLEY BARBOXES. For every good 9 ball player, there are 10,000 BANGERS. PLAY 8 ball tourny's or none on BAR TABLES.

8-Foot tables.

I'll just shoot 10-Ball from now on. Quite surprised at all the dedicated fans to bang-it-around-hoping-for-luck-9-Ball on the forum. The person who spoke of it being a "special group" may have been on to something. I've never seen such a field of poke-and-hopers before.

 

[KMRUNOUT]

NO ONE likes to lose or win by making a fluke shot.[/B][/SIZE]

I don't think this is accurate. I play some tourneys that are relatively short races. Most weeks I'm the strongest guy in the field by a considerable margin. Sometimes I play bad, and the other guy gets some rolls. If this didn't happen, I probably would would win the tourney every week, instead of 8/10 weeks lol. Point is, those other guys want to feel like they have a shot. There is a heavily handicapped 9 ball tourney and an unhandicapped 10 ball tourney. The 9 ball one gets about twice as many people.

Some people DO want to win by luck. And I don't hold that against them. If I'm spotting a guy 4 games to 7 playing 10 ball and *drilling* him, why shouldn't he want some luck when we play an even race to 4? I mean, besides the tourney this guy works on his game, asks me lots of questions about pool, how I played a shot, etc. He has improved a lot. But I think in any tourney, you almost always need a bit of luck to win.

KMRUNOUT

 

[Drawback]

Those are regular 9 ball rules, if you do not care for them try 10 ball. I just played in a 9 ball tournament with over 100 entries and finished high on Thursday and Friday. I did not see any poke and hope shots and saw very little "accidentally" pocketed balls other than one 9 that I made on a break in the break side corner pocket.

Congrats. I probably would of liked playing in your tournament.

 

[Cornerman]

My apologies if I’ve posted this topic in the wrong area. Please move it if need be.

After entering a 9-Ball “tournament” last night, I’ve decided not to ever enter one like this one again.

The event was alternate break/rack. No problem with that. What I didn’t care for was the fact that after a player hit the properly numbered ball any ball on the table could be potted from “slop” shooting and the player could continue on pounding the balls as hard as he/she could hit them in the hopes that another ball or two would slop their way into a pocket. No need to call any shot…even the 9. Doesn’t matter a bit. Hey, if you move a ball a little with the cue, just put it back somewhere near where it was and keep on slopping.

Everyone in the room was playing in an identical fashion. There wasn’t one person taking any time at all to find an aim line and plan for the next ball, just arrive at the table, quickly find the object ball and bang away and hope for a pot and shape.

Never again. Unless it’s "call shot, call pocket, call 9-Ball" or the hell with it.

Cool.

Hope this helps,

Freddie <~~~ bring on 11-ball