9 Ball - Really as bad as everyone says?

jasonlaus said:
why dont you two name this player that makes a ball every break, gets shape every break, has the same pattern every break, cause this would be truly amazing to see.you guys live in a dream world WAKE UP.
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where you from maybe we can set up a azbilliards forum grudge match lol
 
jasonlaus said:
why dont you two name this player that makes a ball every break, gets shape every break, has the same pattern every break, cause this would be truly amazing to see.you guys live in a dream world WAKE UP.
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Why don't you just admit that you have never put forth the effort to study/practice the break seriously. It's pretty obvious that you overlook it's importance and that you are one of those guys that just jumps up there and busts the balls hoping to make a few.
 
BPG24 said:
Why don't you just admit that you have never put forth the effort to study/practice the break seriously. It's pretty obvious that you overlook it's importance and that you are one of those guys that just jumps up there and busts the balls hoping to make a few.
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WHAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND? NOBODY SAID THE BREAK ISNT IMPORTANT. BUT WHEN THE PROS BREAK & LOSE MORE THAN THEY BREAK & WIN....NEVERMIND ITS NO USE.
 
jamesroberts said:
where you from maybe we can set up a azbilliards forum grudge match lol
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N. MIAMI WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PLAY SOME WHEN I GET HOME. I WILL EVEN DO THE DRIVING:D
 
BPG24 said:
Why don't you just admit that you have never put forth the effort to study/practice the break seriously. It's pretty obvious that you overlook it's importance and that you are one of those guys that just jumps up there and busts the balls hoping to make a few.
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BY THE WAY I DO PRACTICE MY BREAK. SO I GUESS YOU BREAK & RUN EVERY RACK TOO. I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO COME TO WHERE EVER YOU ARE & BET, PER GAME OR BY THE SET THAT YOU DO NOT BREAK & RUN OUT OVER 50% OF THE TIME[NOT PLAYING THE GHOST]. I SEE YOU COLLECT CUES, SO DO I, MAYBE YOU COULD WIN ALL OF THEM. IF YOU CAN BREAK & RUN OUT OVER 50% OF THE TIME 9 BALL 9 FT. TABLE NOT ONLY CAN YOU WIN ALL MY CUES BUT I WILL ALSO COME ON HERE EVERYDAY & POST THAT YOU ARE THE GREATEST & SMARTEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME. NOW BEFORE YOU START ON BEING ABLE TO WIN SOME PLAYER CUES OR LUCASI'S OR MEUCCI'S YOU STAND TO WIN 4 SEARINGS 3 HALEYS 3 RICHARD BLACKS MANZINO JOSSWEST SOUTHWEST MOTTEY GILBERT YOU GET THE IDEA. LET ME KNOW WHEN AND WHERE.
 
jamesroberts said:
i do play a little pool...sometimes pretty well...........so what is the nonsense where gomez beat feijen?? i havent seen it but i can guess how it went the corner ball went every time and he got a shot on the one and ran out a pretty easy out...... thats all im saying
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It was the 2007 WPC...but no, that's not all you're saying.

Yes, the wing went every time and the 1 set up in front of the side pocket.

But since the balls were racked AT RANDOM according to the rules, even though the match was played on the lower half of the table the patterns were significantly different.

I don't mean to be too hard on you but your notion that the ROUTES are the same or nearly so from on rack to the other exhibits a lack of understanding of the basic fundamentals of the game.

While the balls tend too exit the rack area in a GENERALLY similar fashion, there are NINE of them...some traveling at 15-20 mph within a 4.5 x 4.5 ft space...running into each other and rebouding off of up to 3 rails before heading up table.

For you to suggest that in spite of all that, the balls end up in some consistent relationship to each other is simply and obviously not true as you could see for yourself if you simply watch a single match on ESPN or an accu-stats video.

You have said that you have seen for yourself at whereever you play but those matches are not recorded. Just buy yourself such a video or go on youtube and watch a few racks. You will see what I mean and can stop arguing the impossible.

On the other matter...Breaking and running more than 50% of the time...why don't we stop all the idle chatter and book the bet. You have at least two takers at the moment and if you will increase the wager to several bags you will get all the action you can handle.

9 ft. table...4.5 pro cut pockets...World Standard Rules...race to 11...break and run or lose...1 bag per set (posted)...2 set minimum...mandatory tie breaker...player of your choice.

Or...I'll make it easy on you. I have a friend in N.Y. who will video an attempt by Thorston at Amsterdam. I nominate Jude to be the neutral racker and referee (we have never met. I know him only by his posts here and by reputation in N.Y.) I would trust him to be fair and honorable.

The loser will pay a $1,000.00 fee to Thorston for his efforts. The money to be sent to him in advance for safekeeping. He would return the winner's money.

You and I would get text messages on a rack by rack basis and a video of the event on DVD.

Bet????

If so...when? If not...why not?

Regards,
Jim
 
av84fun said:
It was the 2007 WPC...but no, that's not all you're saying.

Yes, the wing went every time and the 1 set up in front of the side pocket.

But since the balls were racked AT RANDOM according to the rules, even though the match was played on the lower half of the table the patterns were significantly different.

I don't mean to be too hard on you but your notion that the ROUTES are the same or nearly so from on rack to the other exhibits a lack of understanding of the basic fundamentals of the game.

While the balls tend too exit the rack area in a GENERALLY similar fashion, there are NINE of them...some traveling at 15-20 mph within a 4.5 x 4.5 ft space...running into each other and rebouding off of up to 3 rails before heading up table.

For you to suggest that in spite of all that, the balls end up in some consistent relationship to each other is simply and obviously not true as you could see for yourself if you simply watch a single match on ESPN or an accu-stats video.

You have said that you have seen for yourself at whereever you play but those matches are not recorded. Just buy yourself such a video or go on youtube and watch a few racks. You will see what I mean and can stop arguing the impossible.

On the other matter...Breaking and running more than 50% of the time...why don't we stop all the idle chatter and book the bet. You have at least two takers at the moment and if you will increase the wager to several bags you will get all the action you can handle.

9 ft. table...4.5 pro cut pockets...World Standard Rules...race to 11...break and run or lose...1 bag per set (posted)...2 set minimum...mandatory tie breaker...player of your choice.

Or...I'll make it easy on you. I have a friend in N.Y. who will video an attempt by Thorston at Amsterdam. I nominate Jude to be the neutral racker and referee (we have never met. I know him only by his posts here and by reputation in N.Y.) I would trust him to be fair and honorable.

The loser will pay a $1,000.00 fee to Thorston for his efforts. The money to be sent to him in advance for safekeeping. He would return the winner's money.

You and I would get text messages on a rack by rack basis and a video of the event on DVD.

Bet????

If so...when? If not...why not?

Regards,
Jim
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if you want to play it rack your own 9 ball on a newer diamond table i will gamble with you, but the balls are gonna be racked any way the racker wants ...you can check the rack if youd like .....if you wanna do it on a bar table i will unload......but i feel kinda silly posting this cuz it will never happen
 
old gaff bet

Reminds me of an old sucker bet. Bet somebody that you can make a shot in one try and they can't match it in ten!

Break and mark where every ball went.

Hu


av84fun said:
It was the 2007 WPC...but no, that's not all you're saying.

Yes, the wing went every time and the 1 set up in front of the side pocket.

But since the balls were racked AT RANDOM according to the rules, even though the match was played on the lower half of the table the patterns were significantly different.

I don't mean to be too hard on you but your notion that the ROUTES are the same or nearly so from on rack to the other exhibits a lack of understanding of the basic fundamentals of the game.

While the balls tend too exit the rack area in a GENERALLY similar fashion, there are NINE of them...some traveling at 15-20 mph within a 4.5 x 4.5 ft space...running into each other and rebouding off of up to 3 rails before heading up table.

For you to suggest that in spite of all that, the balls end up in some consistent relationship to each other is simply and obviously not true as you could see for yourself if you simply watch a single match on ESPN or an accu-stats video.

You have said that you have seen for yourself at whereever you play but those matches are not recorded. Just buy yourself such a video or go on youtube and watch a few racks. You will see what I mean and can stop arguing the impossible.

On the other matter...Breaking and running more than 50% of the time...why don't we stop all the idle chatter and book the bet. You have at least two takers at the moment and if you will increase the wager to several bags you will get all the action you can handle.

9 ft. table...4.5 pro cut pockets...World Standard Rules...race to 11...break and run or lose...1 bag per set (posted)...2 set minimum...mandatory tie breaker...player of your choice.

Or...I'll make it easy on you. I have a friend in N.Y. who will video an attempt by Thorston at Amsterdam. I nominate Jude to be the neutral racker and referee (we have never met. I know him only by his posts here and by reputation in N.Y.) I would trust him to be fair and honorable.

The loser will pay a $1,000.00 fee to Thorston for his efforts. The money to be sent to him in advance for safekeeping. He would return the winner's money.

You and I would get text messages on a rack by rack basis and a video of the event on DVD.

Bet????

If so...when? If not...why not?

Regards,
Jim
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jamesroberts said:
if you want to play it rack your own 9 ball on a newer diamond table i will gamble with you, but the balls are gonna be racked any way the racker wants ...you can check the rack if youd like .....if you wanna do it on a bar table i will unload......but i feel kinda silly posting this cuz it will never happen
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Oh, it's not silly at all. I agree to your terms about the table and racking if you agree to my other terms...but there MUST be a mutually acceptable neutral referee who will determine when a rack is proper. Any order is fine with me.

Who is your player?

When?

Where?

Would you care to raise the stakes at all?

BET???
 
av84fun said:
Oh, it's not silly at all. I agree to your terms about the table and racking if you agree to my other terms...but there MUST be a mutually acceptable neutral referee who will determine when a rack is proper. Any order is fine with me.

Who is your player?

When?

Where?

Would you care to raise the stakes at all?

BET???
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im in tampa
 
jamesroberts said:
hmmm i dont know any jasons from miami.....ever played in the florida pro tour tourneys
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I'm never home. was home 2 weeks in feb 2 weeks in sept & around 10 days around christmas. a few more here & there but not much. was gonna play in the miz at hard rock. played poker instead $1800 in about 5 hours how high would i have to place to make that in pool tourney? i would have been donating anyway. capable of playing very well just not much time to devote right now. hopefully i will have a lot of time this summer.
 
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Originally Posted by av84fun
Oh, it's not silly at all. I agree to your terms about the table and racking if you agree to my other terms...but there MUST be a mutually acceptable neutral referee who will determine when a rack is proper. Any order is fine with me.

Who is your player?

When?

Where?

Would you care to raise the stakes at all?

BET???


jamesroberts said:
im in tampa
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OK....What are your answers to the other questions??? Or are you coming to your senses and ducking?

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av84fun said:
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Originally Posted by av84fun
Oh, it's not silly at all. I agree to your terms about the table and racking if you agree to my other terms...but there MUST be a mutually acceptable neutral referee who will determine when a rack is proper. Any order is fine with me.

Who is your player?

When?

Where?

Would you care to raise the stakes at all?

BET???




OK....What are your answers to the other questions??? Or are you coming to your senses and ducking?

(-:
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no we can do this......if i bet enough can i get some odds on the money
 
jamesroberts said:
no we can do this......if i bet enough can i get some odds on the money
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Odds on the money??? You're one funny guy. You said your guy just breaks...gets the same patterns over and over and doesn't need BIH to beat the Ghost.

Now you're trying to set the world land speed record....in reverse!!!

Enuf said.

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av84fun said:
Odds on the money??? You're one funny guy. You said your guy just breaks...gets the same patterns over and over and doesn't need BIH to beat the Ghost.

Now you're trying to set the world land speed record....in reverse!!!

Enuf said.

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just askin a question......would you try this on a bar table too?
 
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