9 Ball Roll Out Situation

[Bob Jewett]

nope, perfectly not legal. that's why you have to spot/owe a ball after doing so

In the US, it used to be not a foul to knock object balls onto the floor. If you had scored on the shot, you continued at the table. It was also the rule at 3-cushion billiards. Balls driven off the table would spot. There were carom fancy shots where a kiss could be avoided by flying the first object ball into the lap of an innocent spectator.

As I recall, this changed about 1980, plus or minus a decade.

 

[Bob Jewett]

I think the WPA rule is clear. Only two foul rules are suspended during a push out at nine ball. Any other foul still counts as a foul. The fouls that apply in a particular game, such as nine ball, are listed in the rules of that game and described in the common fouls section.

 

[Bob Jewett]

.... I talked with HOF referee Tom ....

So far as I know, there is no referee who is in the BCA Hall of Fame. Maybe some players in the HOF have acted as refs, but no one has entered for being one.

The only Tom in the HOF is Tom Rossman. I'm not aware of him ever acting as a referee for nine ball.

 

[Cornerman]

Which WPA rule#?

Yes; the ones you quoted. Fouling on a push is a foul, outside of the push out rules that disregard the rotation and cushion requirements. A ball off the table is a foul, push out or not..

 

[straightline]

Any thoughts on any ball in hand for a push?