9 Ball Run Out Exercise Pt1

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9 Ball Run Out Exercise Part 1

In this layout, you have ball in hand. This is a hill-hill big tournament game before getting into the final. You are playing on a brand new 9 ft Diamond table with 4 1/2" pockets and fast Simonis 860 cloth. The balls are new Aramith Balls. It has been a long day of shooting and you are trying to maintain focus.

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Excercise

1, Where would you put the cue ball to shoot the 6 and how would it get to a good position for the 7?

2, Use 14 ball to draw a green triangle for the acceptable postion zone and use 11 ball to draw a red triangle for the ideal postion zone.

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There is no fixed answer to this. Let's see if we can find the most effecient route together :)
 
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nobody else will probably agree with my choice, or prefer to do it this way, but i believe this is the best way for me to finish this out.

i place the cueball as shown, slight cut on the 6-Ball into the top side pocket. follow up off the rail to that odd looking position zone. pocket the 7-Ball, come off the rail for the 8-Ball, and getting a shot on the 9-Ball should be easy from that point.

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i would play it the same way drcue said, only i would just drift the cue ball down off the 6 instead of going to the rail. 7 and 8 in the same corner, then one rail for the 9
 
DCP drew it up the way I would play it. The tough shot, in my opinion is not the 6 to the 7, but rather the 8 to the 9. If you get too straight, you've got a long draw stroke that you could easily overhit or underhit, and too much angle and you risk position on the 9 for simply making the 8. Good thread, I wish we had more of these rather than people trying to sell cars or talk about Paris Hilton.
 
DCP is on with what I think, but I might come up to center table on the 8 and play 2 rail position on the 9. But either way is fairly easy.
 
I didn't look at any other choices. This was my first reaction when I looked at the balls:
 

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9BallMarksman said:
DCP drew it up the way I would play it. The tough shot, in my opinion is not the 6 to the 7, but rather the 8 to the 9. If you get too straight, you've got a long draw stroke that you could easily overhit or underhit, and too much angle and you risk position on the 9 for simply making the 8. Good thread, I wish we had more of these rather than people trying to sell cars or talk about Paris Hilton.
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Actually, the only way to get funny on the 8-ball is if you get kinda straight and you're not sure exactly which angle the cue-ball is going to take off the ball. Otherwise, any pocketable angle is acceptable shape assuming you're relatively close. The 9-ball is simply in such an easy zone to position for and close to the pocket so you don't need to do much. If you can get close and straight, by all means do it but don't take any risks here. You should pocket that 9-ball from virtually 75% of the table surface.
 
Hal said:
I didn't look at any other choices. This was my first reaction when I looked at the balls:
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hal i think you're making it slightly harder on yourself by not shooting the 6 in the lower side pocket
 
On my home table I might play it differently. It's just a preference thing.
 
dcp's got it right. There's really 1 right way to play it, though a ton of players can still get out playing it 'wrong' :) ...it's a pretty ez spread.

The sharper cut into the side is slightly more missable than the easier angle into the opposite side, and the path in dcp's layout sends the cueball into the desired position line while hal's path crosses it (so hal would need better speed control... a foot short on hal's would be a lot hairier than a foot short on dcp's).
 
I would definitely shoot the 6-ball in the lower side bag and follow the cueball towards the long rail just left of the side pocket and use the long rail to come towards the 7-ball. Thus I have a 6-7' area in the line of the cueball path which would give me a good shot on the 7-ball. If I shoot the 6-ball in the top side bag from an angle and float the cueball across the table, the target area for the 7-ball position is much more smaller, about 4' and I'm running across the ideal line of the position for the 7, whereas the previous choice will make the cueball run along the ideal position line. Especially in hill-hill I try to minimize the error possibility by choosing the shot which gives the highest success percentage. I also like the follow shot almost straight in, because controlling the cueball is much easier than shooting the 6-ball with a bigger cut shot to the top side bag.
 
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mjantti said:
I would definitely shoot the 6-ball in the lower side bag and follow the cueball towards the long rail just left of the side pocket and use the long rail to come towards the 7-ball...
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I'm with the guy from the other Continent. I am als $30k richer, BIH from there!:D :D :D
 
There's hardly any room for debate on the right way to begin this run. Playing the six into the lower side pocket and following to the side rail and out simply has everything in its favor. Both the shot and the position are 100% make, and once you're on the seven properly, the rest of the rack practically runs itself. As Jude noted, just about any reasonably close shot on the eight ball has a fairly natural route or an easy draw shot to get perfectly acceptable shape on the nine.

Hal, you got action in St. Thomas too, if you want it. You'll be stealing from us island boys with that advanced, intricate position play!:D (All in fun!)
 
cuetable said:
In this layout, you have ball in hand. This is a hill-hill big tournament game before getting into the final. You are playing on a brand new 9 ft Diamond table with 4 1/2" pockets and fast Simonis 860 cloth. The balls are new Aramith Balls. It has been a long day of shooting and you are trying to maintain focus.
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And I'd dog something.

Fred
 
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belmicah said:
Come to Portland/Vancouver, and you got action.
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This is the problem with the Wei Table, looking at it as 2D on a screen. I've seen Hal play. I guarantee he wouldn't have shot this out the way he drew it up.

Fred
 
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