9 mm diameter shaft
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It doesn't have to be that thin to match low-squirt commercial cues if it doesn't have a ferrule.
I think that one should not allow oneself to be convinced by the sharing of the word 'solid', that only solid wood gives a solid hit (whatever that is).
Thank you kindly.
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Thank you for giving me a red rep in the banks thread, when I have the time....I'll be sure to return it to you:thumbup:
Roger Bouchet (Bouchay) from Fitchburg, MA played with an incredibly thin shaft. Back in the 60's, 70's, 80's and ?? he was a great player. He played mostly straight pool and some 9 Ball as I recall.
I went to a straight pool tournament in Fitchburg; Got there late and the score was Roger about 7 and his opponent (Red Ledger) was about 2 or 3 short from winning the game of 125 or 150. Can't remember. Any however Roger won the match and Red's score was 2 less than when I got there.
I remember him fondly. He was a fine gentleman. As a side note he had worked for Trisum Potato Chip company.
I went to a straight pool tournament in Fitchburg; Got there late and the score was Roger about 7 and his opponent (Red Ledger) was about 2 or 3 short from winning the game of 125 or 150. Can't remember. Any however Roger won the match and Red's score was 2 less than when I got there.
I remember him fondly. He was a fine gentleman. As a side note he had worked for Trisum Potato Chip company.
He gave me one too in another thread not long after he joined while not having a clue as to what was really going on or the past history.
There are two(2) Hispanic individuals that frequent the hall that I do that use very very thin diameter shafts. They look like pencils. They do not speak much english at all, but I was able to get one in my hands & it was just too small in my fingers.
I'm playing OB Pro shafts with 11.75 mm tips & a European/Conical taper that I like a lot & has a solid hit & is very low squirt... but does have some as they all do... for now.
Then I have that "juiced" sanded down 12 mm tip with a smaller section & a long pro taper Predator 314 CAT shaft that is way more flexible that I will not use on 9' tables because anything but a hit a touch above center will swerve across the line & I can not detect any squirt, even when doing 'tests'.
I know it must have some, but damn if I can see it.
Stay Well, E.
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A thin shaft diameter likes an open bridge especially when you swipe the CB and let the shaft fly off of your bridge.
Be well
A thin shaft diameter likes an open bridge especially when you swipe the CB and let the shaft fly off of your bridge.
Be well
Yeah, but I did not get to hit any with it.
It may have loaded up & when my shoulder moved & my elbow dropped, I may have snapped it.:wink:
You Stay Well.
It looks like Fast Eddie Felson has a 9mm shaft in your avatar.:smile:
Somehow I just don't think so.
I know they are both fictional characters but somehow I think those two would have looked at that as being 'cheating'. :wink:
Thanks for missing the point. You got the red rep for making off-topic, personal remarks. So you do the same thing here?
Thank you kindly.
A thin shaft diameter likes an open bridge especially when you swipe the CB and let the shaft fly off of your bridge.
Be well
Yes, you get it! Finally someone that umderstands! Finally! It's hard having a perfect, unique stroke as such when most don't even understand let alone able to comprehend what exactly is going on. Is that what you do too?
The instructor that goes by SmoothStroke here calls it "clearing" the cue or letting the cue 'clear'
I'd never heard of that before, but I knew exactly what he meant when he said it in the context of the conversation.
I sometimes do it in the swoop swoop direction & the swipe swipe direction too... then there are those in between.
Would those be the swoipe swoipe?
Stay Well.
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Regarding shaft stiffness, a very flexible shaft can have very
little deflection (like the Predator's), and a very stiff shaft can have
very little deflection (like some billiard cues). But if two cues have the
same taper but are made of different kinds of wood so one is more flexible
than the other, the more flexible one should deflect less, because the
more flexible one will absorb more of the energy from the impact with the
cueball (by bending). Overall, however, the amount of mass in front of a
shaft's flex point seems to be the most important variable in determining
cue ball deflection.
So: my theory, which I've tried to back up with all the evidence I
could find, is that a shaft's ability to absorb energy from the impact
with the cue ball is what determines how "squirty" a particular shaft is.
Amount of mass in front of a shaft's flex point, then tip hardness, and
then overall shaft stiffness are my three big variables for determining a
shaft's tendency to deflect.
http://www.poolchat.net/forums/inde...t-shafts-explain-deflection-once-and-for-all/
little deflection (like the Predator's), and a very stiff shaft can have
very little deflection (like some billiard cues). But if two cues have the
same taper but are made of different kinds of wood so one is more flexible
than the other, the more flexible one should deflect less, because the
more flexible one will absorb more of the energy from the impact with the
cueball (by bending). Overall, however, the amount of mass in front of a
shaft's flex point seems to be the most important variable in determining
cue ball deflection.
So: my theory, which I've tried to back up with all the evidence I
could find, is that a shaft's ability to absorb energy from the impact
with the cue ball is what determines how "squirty" a particular shaft is.
Amount of mass in front of a shaft's flex point, then tip hardness, and
then overall shaft stiffness are my three big variables for determining a
shaft's tendency to deflect.
http://www.poolchat.net/forums/inde...t-shafts-explain-deflection-once-and-for-all/
Good Morning E,
Yes. That's that thing. There is more than just one factor & each has an associated relationship to one another regarding the subjects of deflection, spin, & contact time.
Hence, what I think was the most significant aspect of the Squirt, End Mass, & Flexibility thread, was the seeming agreement of the phrase "effective end mass", which represents a rather complex situation vs the very simplistic phrase of "end mass".
I hope that the parties that be can keep that differential in mind when conversing regard the subject matters or deflection &/or squirt, spin, tip hardness & contact time. Somehow though, I rather doubt that that will be the case.
I think that you starting that thread & persevering through it has performed a significant service.
Thank You for that & more & You Stay Well,
Rick
PS Perhaps you should copy & paste your post here into that other thread & I can do the same.
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