9' table... Real world room size needed

Simple numbers:

6' around the entire table from the edge of the table. Anything less and you'll be too close. Everyone here with less than that should be able to pipe in saying there has been a time or two they had issues - hitting the wall - with someone at some time. 6' is the fail-safe number.

Of course you can go less - but why would you if you don't need to?

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easy-e said:
Sometimes the cue having room isn't the only thing you should consider. I'm a bigger guy and have a pretty wide stance, just because the cue fits, doesn't mean I do.
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This will be the "Easy E Back Leg Room" analysis for minimum room size.

Freddie <~~~ no such issue for me
 
JazzboxBlues said:
I am currently shopping for a new home and one of the requirements is being able to have a 9' table unobstructed. I've seen room size recommendations and question if they're really enough. What size room have you found to be the minimum. The width so far seems like the biggest obstacle.
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Hi Members,

Here is each table size and "minimum" room requirements.
Keep in mind you'll want somewhere for your opponent to sit while you're running the table, preferably close to the rack... lol
Hope this helps :) Please call me if you want to discuss in detail.


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A: SEVEN FOOT TABLE (3.5' X 7').( Playing Area: 40" x 80" ) Minimum Room Size 13' x 16' 6"
B: EIGTH FOOT TABLE (4' X 8').....( Playing Area: 45" x 90" ) Minimum Room Size 13'6" x 17' 6"
C: NINE FOOT TABLE (4.5' X 9')....( Playing Area: 50" x 100" ) Minimum Room Size 14' x 18' 6"
 
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people ask about the minimum size because they are buying a used house instead of building one to exactly what they want. and sometimes have to compromise on things to even get a pool table in.

those that cant afford a house can easily give the dimensions that they demand.
 
Heath Manning said:
Hi Members,



Here is each table size and "minimum" room requirements.

Keep in mind you'll want somewhere for your opponent to sit while you're running the table, preferably close to the rack... lol

Hope this helps :) Please call me if you want to discuss in detail.





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A: SEVEN FOOT TABLE (3.5' X 7').( Playing Area: 40" x 80" ) Minimum Room Size 13' x 16' 6"

B: EIGTH FOOT TABLE (4' X 8').....( Playing Area: 45" x 90" ) Minimum Room Size 13'6" x 17' 6"

C: NINE FOOT TABLE (4.5' X 9')....( Playing Area: 50" x 100" ) Minimum Room Size 14' x 18' 6"
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I think this chart and accompanying information, Heath, is exactly what gets MOST if not ALL prospective table owners and players in near dire straits....and leaves a terrible taste in their mouth every minute of every day they try to play on it. Unless they want to use gimmick shorty cues because of limited room for those shots that come up more often than anyone selling this chart will admit...

IF anyone follows that chart and plan, and puts their treasured 9' pool table in a 14' wide room, they'd have exactly 59" from the playable edge of a rail to the wall on the sides and exactly 62" on the ends. Literally ONE INCH to a maximum of 3 inches of movement for a rail shot - and we ALL know how that goes.

Isn't it about time someone other than a pool table manufacturer or reseller publishes real-world charts to help would-be table owners make important decisions with correct room sizes?

Come on guys.

K.




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K2Kraze said:
I think this chart and accompanying information, Heath, is exactly what gets MOST if not ALL prospective table owners and players in near dire straits....and leaves a terrible taste in their mouth every minute of every day they try to play on it. Unless they want to use gimmick shorty cues because of limited room for those shots that come up more often than anyone selling this chart will admit...

IF anyone follows that chart and plan, and puts their treasured 9' pool table in a 14' wide room, they'd have exactly 59" from the playable edge of a rail to the wall on the sides and exactly 62" on the ends. Literally ONE INCH to a maximum of 3 inches of movement for a rail shot - and we ALL know how that goes.

Isn't it about time someone other than a pool table manufacturer or reseller publishes real-world charts to help would-be table owners make important decisions with correct room sizes?

Come on guys.

K.



Hi Members,

K2craze my reply was exactly what the original post asked for.
I agree that a room should be larger to accommodate a number of obstacles however the post asked for the minimum size and nothing more.
Many home owners don't have much room and want to know what the absolute minimum is.
I also suggested that they give me a call and I would discuss in detail with them.
This would allow me point them in the right direction.
I'm not hear to debate your point of view and I'll continue to provide service and promote the game in a positive manner.

Again if you read the original post it clearly asked for the Minimum size requirements.
I offered free support for this poster and my customer service is second to none.
I have not left one client in dire straits or mislead them.
I'm a honest guy and don't deserve your criticism.
Instead of criticizing my reply and suggesting someone else publish a real world chart why don't you invest your time as I have to assist this poster.
I look forward to your release of a real world chart.

Members I apologize for this rant... but it hurts my feelings and challenges my integrity that a member on AZ billiards would imply I'm misleading this poster.
I care far to much about this community and our members to ever do this.
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Heath -

My sincere apologies if you in any way think I was challenging your integrity - or unintentionally hurt your feelings...that wasn't the purpose of MY POST.

With that being said (and it was necessary), I'll follow up and say these few things, sir...

First of all, I did invest my time (as you did) offering my suggestion....

Second, no one ever questioned your "customer service" or devotion to this forum...

Third, you simply copied and pasted someone else's chart and "minimums" in a effort to help the OP....and then followed that up with an offer to have someone call you. About what? To explain a chart you could have explained from the get-go? Does it even need explanation?

I'm not here to challenge you nor support your copy and paste advice on "minimum room sizes" because you know darned well that chart is poor advice --- so may I suggest - at no charge, sir, since ALL of my advice and member support is 100% free - that you offer something worth offering. Would YOU put YOUR table or suggest any one of YOUR customers/friends/family members actually put a 9' table in that minimum room dimension advice you are "offering free of charge"? I can only imagine the feedback you'd get on that, Heath. But hey - my opinion. Oh wait - wouldn't the absolute minimum room size be dependent on knowing exactly how the person would be using this pool table room? How about cue lengths for starters? That's what the call would cover I guess.

And if you agree that a room should be larger like you stated in your follow-up post, then why didn't you say that in your post in the first place? Perhaps you could go back and edit that first post of yours and add some good advice while using that copied chart of what NOT dimensions to use?

Please feel free to call me if you'd like any advice - at no charge of course.

K.





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Thank you for you apology K2Kraze. Maybe I need thicker Skin lol.

The chart was copied from my website which has been used by Diamond billiards for years to show the absolute minimum room size.
The poster could call and we could discuss his room, his particular needs, his expectations and to honestly make him confident in a room size that will work for him.

The chart is a minimum guide for room size. I have many clients that have tables in small rooms and they make it work based on their room size.
I personally wouldn't suggest a table be placed in a room with the minimum room size however if this is all they have than its the owners decision.
Of course I wouldn't suggest it but the question on this post was the minimum size.

I made reference that he should leave room for his opponent to sit in my original post which referenced a larger room.... but the poster again asked for the minimum.

I'm here to support our members and promote the sport.
Not get into a debate on what you think my post should have referenced.
My information is accurate and honest which will continue.
In the end I think we both want the best for the original poster and we'll be here if he wants assistance.
Have a good night.
 
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I agree with you on all of those points, Heath. I've seen your many posts and know without a shadow of doubt you are here to promote and support and enjoy what this game offers - with new friends being at the top of the list...

6' minimum will be on my new chart

Good night, sir!

K.




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K2Kraze said:
Heath -

My sincere apologies if you in any way think I was challenging your integrity - or unintentionally hurt your feelings...that wasn't the purpose of MY POST.

With that being said (and it was necessary), I'll follow up and say these few things, sir...

First of all, I did invest my time (as you did) offering my suggestion....

Second, no one ever questioned your "customer service" or devotion to this forum...

Third, you simply copied and pasted someone else's chart and "minimums" in a effort to help the OP....and then followed that up with an offer to have someone call you. About what? To explain a chart you could have explained from the get-go? Does it even need explanation?

I'm not here to challenge you nor support your copy and paste advice on "minimum room sizes" because you know darned well that chart is poor advice --- so may I suggest - at no charge, sir, since ALL of my advice and member support is 100% free - that you offer something worth offering. Would YOU put YOUR table or suggest any one of YOUR customers/friends/family members actually put a 9' table in that minimum room dimension advice you are "offering free of charge"? I can only imagine the feedback you'd get on that, Heath. But hey - my opinion. Oh wait - wouldn't the absolute minimum room size be dependent on knowing exactly how the person would be using this pool table room? How about cue lengths for starters? That's what the call would cover I guess.

And if you agree that a room should be larger like you stated in your follow-up post, then why didn't you say that in your post in the first place? Perhaps you could go back and edit that first post of yours and add some good advice while using that copied chart of what NOT dimensions to use?

Please feel free to call me if you'd like any advice - at no charge of course.

K.





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The OP is buying a house, not seeing if he can squeeze a table in his existing great room. So I agree wholeheartedly with this post.

To Heath, I think given your post and reading between all the lines, you can do a better job than your chart post.
 
Really need the minimum playing space,,,,plus room for minimum 2chairs, drink fridge, small snack table! If we are being "real world" my neighbor has a minimum room and a ninefooter and it sucks bad! He has bar stools opposite corners but it's pretty much standing room only!!! It's fine for solo practice but with a opponent your constantly moving out of the shooters way or line of sight. My real world opinion would be: the chart size for the nine is where I'd start for a bar box! Remember you may have a few extra players or family in the room from time to time! Life is compromises
 
I would never actually recommend this to anybody, but I have played in a room that must have had a 12 foot width with a 9 foot table in it. A lot of positions were unplayable, but I still had fun with it while I was there. It was still very usable for a lot of practice scenarios, and opening the door helped add some space lol.

There was no way you could play a proper game though.
 
JazzboxBlues said:
I am currently shopping for a new home and one of the requirements is being able to have a 9' table unobstructed. I've seen room size recommendations and question if they're really enough. What size room have you found to be the minimum. The width so far seems like the biggest obstacle.
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This question comes up about every 6 months or so.
I go by my personal experience...
You need a 15'x20' room to have room for a back stroke.

My old house had a pool room of 16'x19.5' and believe me, it really need 6" more. Hundreds of times I heard cues hitting the wall.
My new place has a pool room that is 15.5'x24.5' and I love it!!!! Plenty of room for chairs and no walls in the way, EVER!!!
 
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all these high level technical answers..............

just add 10 foot to the width and length of the table.....................

done

Kim
 
maha said:
here is the right answer for the minimum size. your playing surface is 50 by 100 inches.

so for your width you need 50 inches plus two 58 cue lengths = 166 plus 3 inches on each side for when you are on the rail and level cue , you dont stroke very much when this happens.

so 172 inches = 14 feet 4 inches. for the width of the room to still be able to shoot all shots.

add 50 (4 feet 2 inches) inches to this for the length.= 18 feet 6 inches.

all this only applies when you are shooting straight across from a wall. which isnt often.
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This is the ANSWER.

The OP is looking to buy a new home. It's like an already built home, so its not like he can tell the architecture to draw a 15x25' room.

He'll likely run into many houses with rooms that are right around 14ft wide, so every few inches matters. So a 172-174" wide room is the bare minimum to shoot all shots with a 58" cue.
 
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