90 90 aiming sucks

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judochoke

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(I probably sound like a whiny pussy crying about how to do this and how to do that, sorry if I do sound like that)

BUT, im in 90 90 for the long haul. I hate it, I curse it, but I use it. I have followed all of the information here on this forum, you tube, DR DAVE, ect. I have made up my mind to become good at it.

would it be worth the money to buy RON VITTELOS dvd set for 54 dollars????
not really a cheapshake, but sitting down at the computer watching 4 hours of dvds does not sound like fun. but if it would get me to the promised land of perfect aiming, then it would be worth it.

most of the time, 90 90 works for me, if I take my time, line up right, make a good pivot, and good stoke, im ok. but If one component is off, boom, a rattler.

is it worth the money?????? thanks, crybaby judo
 
judochoke said:
... BUT, im in 90 90 for the long haul. I hate it, I curse it, but I use it. ...
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I think that's probably a mistake for you at this point in your game but each of us has to find his own path.

If you want to ask questions about aiming systems, there is a subforum for that. There is a reason that the subforum exists. It will be better to ask your question there.
 
Bob Jewett said:
I think that's probably a mistake for you at this point in your game but each of us has to find his own path.

If you want to ask questions about aiming systems, there is a subforum for that. There is a reason that the subforum exists. It will be better to ask your question there.
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So you would send him to Pool Player hell? I don't even go there.
 
Ron Vitello died in May, 2016. Are his DVDs and workbook still available somewhere?
 
judochoke said:
(I probably sound like a whiny pussy crying about how to do this and how to do that, sorry if I do sound like that)

BUT, im in 90 90 for the long haul. I hate it, I curse it, but I use it. I have followed all of the information here on this forum, you tube, DR DAVE, ect. I have made up my mind to become good at it.

would it be worth the money to buy RON VITTELOS dvd set for 54 dollars????
not really a cheapshake, but sitting down at the computer watching 4 hours of dvds does not sound like fun. but if it would get me to the promised land of perfect aiming, then it would be worth it.

most of the time, 90 90 works for me, if I take my time, line up right, make a good pivot, and good stoke, im ok. but If one component is off, boom, a rattler.

is it worth the money?????? thanks, crybaby judo
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No, don't spend anymore money, you got what you need right in front of you. Stay out of the aiming section, it will only confuse you more. Don't worry about pivoting, it's not needed. If you want to experiment with it down the road, whatever floats your boat.

Still, I'd bet the bank your biggest issue is your fundamentals at the moment. You want to shoot straight first, so you know your hitting where your aiming.

Here's the search I found for Dr. Dave on fractional aiming. Click on the first link, that's a pdf. You'll want to set one of these shots up and shoot it a thousand times or maybe more. When you finally get it, you'll feel it. https://www.google.com/search?q=dr+...oid-sprint-us&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
 
You answered your own question. If its too much of a hassle to learn and implement, then move on to a different technique.

judochoke said:
(I probably sound like a whiny pussy crying about how to do this and how to do that, sorry if I do sound like that)

BUT, im in 90 90 for the long haul. I hate it, I curse it, but I use it. I have followed all of the information here on this forum, you tube, DR DAVE, ect. I have made up my mind to become good at it.

would it be worth the money to buy RON VITTELOS dvd set for 54 dollars????
not really a cheapshake, but sitting down at the computer watching 4 hours of dvds does not sound like fun. but if it would get me to the promised land of perfect aiming, then it would be worth it.

most of the time, 90 90 works for me, if I take my time, line up right, make a good pivot, and good stoke, im ok. but If one component is off, boom, a rattler.

is it worth the money?????? thanks, crybaby judo
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336Robin said:
So you would send him to Pool Player hell? I don't even go there.
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I won't say the aiming forum is Pool Player hell... The aiming forum is what you make of it.

There's some good info on that forum... as well as bad info. The arguments are disturbing.

I can say, the good, the bad, and ugly info will usually be apparent in the first 3 or 4 posts.

Check out threads you may find useful. Read the first few posts and move on if no interest.

Just IMO... Carl

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judochoke said:
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most of the time, 90 90 works for me, if I take my time, line up right, make a good pivot, and good stoke, im ok. but If one component is off, boom, a rattler.
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And it won't be any different how you aim or what system you use, or if you just hit a MILLION balls.

Everyone, no matter who they are, if one component of their "set up" is off, boom a rattler, or even worse, one that bounces off the rail and gets tied up.

I stand in front of the cue ball on every shot, grip the back of the cue, then move into the shot in a straight line, set my feet correctly, ensure my elbow is good, and then start doing my practice strokes and see if there is any wrist movement. And then I take the shot, hit my finish, and watch to see where the tip lands. Then I see if I made the ball and then get up and see if I "got" my leave.

If one component is "off" on a long shot, I'm probably going to miss. If it's a medium shot, I might rattle the ball, and the ones I don't rattle went into the "wrong" side of the pocket and my leave is "off". So, just saying, it's not just "your" system you're using, it's any system or no system at all.

That's why the game we love, sucks, you can't put your guard down or let your concentration wane for a second or someone is gonna take your lunch :) Not much different in many sports, it requires giving every you got on every shot. Think of a pitcher in baseball, every pitch matters, every single one. When he gets careless, the usually hit that one 500 feet :) lol

Thus, the system never fails as it's always comes down to user error :)
 
judochoke said:
(I probably sound like a whiny pussy crying about how to do this and how to do that, sorry if I do sound like that)

BUT, im in 90 90 for the long haul. I hate it, I curse it, but I use it. I have followed all of the information here on this forum, you tube, DR DAVE, ect. I have made up my mind to become good at it.

would it be worth the money to buy RON VITTELOS dvd set for 54 dollars????
not really a cheapshake, but sitting down at the computer watching 4 hours of dvds does not sound like fun. but if it would get me to the promised land of perfect aiming, then it would be worth it.

most of the time, 90 90 works for me, if I take my time, line up right, make a good pivot, and good stoke, im ok. but If one component is off, boom, a rattler.

is it worth the money?????? thanks, crybaby judo
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Considering you haven’t tried to learn from Ron Vitello himself (through his videos), then IMO, you haven’t tried 90/90 yet at all.

Is it worth the $54 to try to learn his system from him? Of course it is. Why wouldn’t it be? You haven’t actuall tried it yet.
 
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The Vitello Aiming system that I remember used the lights reflecting off the cue ball as reference. At the time, his system described 7 different shots. One was called 90% point shot because it covered 90% of the 9-ball shots out there, using the cue stick as reference. IDK, maybe he refined his system and got rid of some of the other shots.

Here is a review
https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=360865


Pete said:
What is this 90/90 aiming system???
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If your fundamentals are where they should be:

Any system will work....

If any "one" of your fundamentals are more than slightly off:

No system will work very consistently.

As for buying DVDs, save that money for lessons to "dial in" your fundamentals. After that is done, your mileage will be better.

Rake
 
ctyhntr said:
The Vitello Aiming system that I remember used the lights reflecting off the cue ball as reference. At the time, his system described 7 different shots. One was called 90% point shot because it covered 90% of the 9-ball shots out there, using the cue stick as reference. IDK, maybe he refined his system and got rid of some of the other shots.

Here is a review
https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=360865
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That's not 90/90. There are videos on YT that explain it pretty well. Easy to use system.
 
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