90 deg cut shot

Bob Jewett said:
I used outside to throw the ball into the pocket. The object ball was a little dirty. :devilish:

I have seen the OB cut at a 110-degree angle twice, but it only traveled a foot or so. In the "Take Five" video, I overcut one of the tries.
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Do you think Shaun shot it with center ball? I couldn't tell.
 
iusedtoberich said:
Yeah, we used to shoot it with the CB on top of the nameplate, on the wood rail (not on the cloth). And I "think" the OB was over further, 1 diamond away from the opposite corner pocket. Take 30 attempts and walk away with the dough. I might be mis-remembering the positions slightly. It was a gimme against an unsuspecting banger. And of course, the first prop bets would be much simpler angles.
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In the 60's at Bensinger's in Chicago, as in many famous PR's we had a Brunswick Medalist 6'x12' Snooker table.

The O'Shea Brothers had 4 out of 5 that were Golden Glove Champs, and all were Chicago Firefighters!

A couple of them, Mike & Rory played pool a little, not by any means good players!

Rory had one unique shot He could Really make 1 out of 3, usually started out with 20 tries!

He placed the CB on a piece of chalk on the nameplate on the end rail, the OB frozen on the other short rail, when He won those Bets, He would place the OB tougher 1 diamond 'Backwards' to the shot!

He trapped a lot of people
 
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According to a story, there was a guy who only shot the following and only for a lot of money. It was a "half-hour" shot...

Freeze the object ball a diamond from the corner pocket on the end rail. Place the cue ball in a 1-diamond square by the diagonally opposite corner pocket. Cut the object ball along the short rail three diamonds to the pocket. The cue ball is not allowed to contact any side rails before the object ball.

According to the story, the bet was high enough that the shooter could pay for a new cloth.

While we're at it, here's a Boston Shorty prop bet that I heard about: from behind the line, shoot a spot shot into the side pocket. The cue ball does not hit a cushion before the object ball. I think Venom could do this in less than an hour. Wax is your friend.
 
Here's another one. Put the cue ball on the head spot. Put a clean object ball in the middle of the foot rail but a chalks width off of the rail. Now that it a 90 degree cut. Cut it in either corner with outside English and a level cue. It is not the hardest shot but it will give you a chance to practice your stroke.
 
kingwang said:
How do the physics of this shot work?
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As Bob shoots it, the outside english throws the object ball into line. It's otherwise a natural cut. If you watch the ball drop it still throws wide a couple degrees.

The hundred mile an hour version uses high speed to minimize the throw. If you hit it just right, the cue ball will graze the ball high, further minimizing the throw. Less leverage is my guess. There's also a chance the CB makes contact on the far side making contact at 90+ degrees.
 
iusedtoberich said:
Maybe by today's clocking system, the "C" I'm talking about would be a 500 FargoRate on the nose player. I used to do it when I stunk way more than I do now.
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Everyone & I mean everyone needs to stop using the ABCDE ratings system. With FargoRate & the Compusport Rating in place the old ranking system is obsolete.

If you must use ABCDE at least get it somewhat right.

A 500 should not be a C by anyone's measure.
 
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Fore Rail said:
Everyone & I mean everyone needs to stop using the ABCDE ratings system. With FargoRate & the Compusport Rating in place the old ranking system is obsolete.

If you must use ABCDE at least get it somewhat right.

A 500 is not a C by anyone's measure.
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500 is a C in most of the leagues around NYC
 
Fore Rail said:
Everyone & I mean everyone needs to stop using the ABCDE ratings system. With FargoRate & the Compusport Rating in place the old ranking system is obsolete.

If you must use ABCDE at least get it somewhat right.

A 500 is not a C by anyone's measure.
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Depends on the scale? If there's a ton of pool in your area, There's still only 1 thru 10 for labels.
 
kingwang said:
500 is a C in most of the leagues around NYC
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Do you have a ratings chart to back that up?

A conversion from Fargo to ABCDE?

A conversion from CSR to ABCDE?

A conversion from APA to ABCDE?

A 500 is a 500 according to Fargo Rate. There is no need to go any further by adding a letter to that. Especially when all across the country that can and does mean very different things.
 
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Fore Rail said:
Do you have a ratings chart to back that up?

A conversion from Fargo to ABCDE?

A conversion from CSR to ABCDE?

A conversion from APA to ABCDE?

A 500 is a 500 according to Fargo Rate. There is no need to go any further by adding a letter to that. Especially when all across the country that can and does mean very different things.
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I agree with your point, but here is a rough comparison of various rating systems. See the table towards the bottom. It says a C is about a 425.

Player Ratings - Dr. Dave Pool Info

Answers to frequently-asked questions (FAQs) about how to rate, compare, handicap, and track progress of pool players in tournaments and leagues.
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Fore Rail said:
Do you have a ratings chart to back that up?

A conversion from Fargo to ABCDE?

A conversion from CSR to ABCDE?

A conversion from APA to ABCDE?

A 500 is a 500 according to Fargo Rate. There is no need to go any further by adding a letter to that. Especially when all across the country that can and does mean very different things.
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The ABCDE scale by definition is arbitrary. It just happens that in the leagues I play in, C gets assigned to the ~500 range.
 
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