A Balabushka that is a Litte Different

Lenny e-mailed me about this and I'm exploring it further, but here are my own thoughts.

Assuming it is a Balabushka, like Dave Sutton said, it does look like a Szamboti blanked Bushka. That would put the year at 1973 - 1975 or so. I like the design a lot too. Considering the potential value, I would definitely get the cue to Pete to have it authenticated ASAP, because that letter is worth more than gold. I had asked John Davis if he ever made a birdseye blank for George and he said "not that I recall". George didn't trust birdseye, but he must have changed his mind after he saw all those old Harvey Martin cues hold up just fine.

As far as the inlays go, both George Balabushka and Palmer got a lot of ideas from the shop of H.L. Wild & Co., a musical instrument parts supplier which was located in the East Village, New York City. The inlays are guitar "purfling", which are wood bandings glued up and re-sawn to form complex repeating shapes (see the pic below). These purflings are used as inlays, but what they are mainly designed to do is decorate the edges, veneer seams, and sound holes of guitars. Wild also sold mother of pearl shapes, including these arrow-head inlays.

The Palmer Margo Bullet series came out later, early 1980's - so they might have seen this Balabushka and thought it was a good design idea. By the way, Gus Szamboti also made the blanks for some of the upscale Margo Cues, particularly the Margo #10.

If I find out any more, I'll post it or pm Lenny.

Chris
 

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Just want to add, this cue has an interesting optical illusion - it looks like the purfling inlays are "dashed", but every 4th box in the inlay is black - so it just disappears in the ebony to create the illusion.

Chris
 

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Lenny e-mailed me about this and I'm exploring it further, but here are my own thoughts.

Assuming it is a Balabushka, like Dave Sutton said, it does look like a Szamboti blanked Bushka. That would put the year at 1973 - 1975 or so. I like the design a lot too. Considering the potential value, I would definitely get the cue to Pete to have it authenticated ASAP, because that letter is worth more than gold. I had asked John Davis if he ever made a birdseye blank for George and he said "not that I recall". George didn't trust birdseye, but he must have changed his mind after he saw all those old Harvey Martin cues hold up just fine.

As far as the inlays go, both George Balabushka and Palmer got a lot of ideas from the shop of H.L. Wild & Co., a musical instrument parts supplier which was located in the East Village, New York City. The inlays are guitar "purfling", which are wood bandings glued up and re-sawn to form complex repeating shapes (see the pic below). These purflings are used as inlays, but what they are mainly designed to do is decorate the edges, veneer seams, and sound holes of guitars. Wild also sold mother of pearl shapes, including these arrow-head inlays.

The Palmer Margo Bullet series came out later, early 1980's - so they might have seen this Balabushka and thought it was a good design idea. By the way, Gus Szamboti also made the blanks for some of the upscale Margo Cues, particularly the Margo #10.

If I find out any more, I'll post it or pm Lenny.

Chris

Thanks Chris, my friend lives in NY and even Paul Rubino has seen the cue. I might talk to Greg about going to Pete and having it authenticated, he did not think anything of it as his father bought it right from George and he says it could not be later then 71. Either way very nice cue and my money would be on it being a Balabushka. :smile:
 
Not saying that at all. As Tate has said, George was a customer of Balners. However, these inlays would not match the timeframe of the dates listed.

You know this might be hard to believe but there was a point in time people actually played with their cues. :grin:

JV

Hey Joe, if you could ever make it to Gallery Billiards I might be able to have the guy meet up with you and you could check it out, you have seen 1 or 2 Bushkas in your day. :grin:
 
WOW!!! I have been following the thread and what a great cue. Chris you always seem to have the answers................thanks, it is fun to read the history of these things!

Mike
 
I have bought several Balabushkas from people who were mistaken about the dates and original cost of their cues. That is not unusual.

40 years is a long time to remember the exact year, and $100 seemed like a lot more money at the time.
 
Beautiful cue! I really like the design. I also learned a lot of history from this thread!
 
Hey Joe, if you could ever make it to Gallery Billiards I might be able to have the guy meet up with you and you could check it out, you have seen 1 or 2 Bushkas in your day. :grin:

I think I might have seen this cue. Ask him if he ever bought it down to the show. Which Gallery billiards? Another pool room name that is much to common. :grin:

Side bar: Room names that should not be allowed.. Gallery Billiards, Crown Billiards, Shooters, and the Corner or Side Pocket...

JV (---will send someone a case of beer that names their place Pocket Pool Billiards... lol
 
I think I might have seen this cue. Ask him if he ever bought it down to the show. Which Gallery billiards? Another pool room name that is much to common. :grin:

Side bar: Room names that should not be allowed.. Gallery Billiards, Crown Billiards, Shooters, and the Corner or Side Pocket...

JV (---will send someone a case of beer that names their place Pocket Pool Billiards... lol

He brought it to the Expo and was with Paul Rubino so perhaps you have seen it. Its Gallery Billiards in Newburgh NY, Dave Pinkston owns it and Earl Herring plays out of there along with Morgan Steinman.
 
thanks chris. i know them szaqmboti points anywhere.


lenny just snapping pics of the pliots and joint and weightbolt and posting will prob answer your question
 
I don´t know many Balabushka´s, but this one for me is the most interesting and amazing one i ever saw.
What a great design and idea, great cue you got there, congrats :thumbup:
Erich
 
thanks chris. i know them szaqmboti points anywhere.


lenny just snapping pics of the pliots and joint and weightbolt and posting will prob answer your question
Hi Dave, the cue is my friend Gregs, I am no longer in NY and back in AZ but will see if I can get him to take a pic of the joint and whatnot. :smile:
 
I don´t know many Balabushka´s, but this one for me is the most interesting and amazing one i ever saw.
What a great design and idea, great cue you got there, congrats :thumbup:
Erich

Thanks, I sent him the link to this thread so he could follow along and enjoy the kudos. :smile:
 
I just want to say that I now have conflicting expert information on this cue that it could indeed be a custom Palmer. The owner needs to have the cue authenticated.

The inlays were undoubtedly done by Palmer. They made their own banding strips on this inlay, using stacked, glued up veneers and resawing them. Definitely a Szamboti forearm, the pearl arrowheads came from H.L. Wild.

Chris
 
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I just want to say that I now have conflicting expert information on this cue that it could indeed be a custom Palmer. The owner needs to have the cue authenticated. The inlays were undoubtedly done by Palmer.

Chris
I am going to speak with Greg and see if he can hook up with Pete Tascarella, I know Rubino is close by but he has already seen the cue.
 
I am going to speak with Greg and see if he can hook up with Pete Tascarella, I know Rubino is close by but he has already seen the cue.

Let us know what he says. If worse comes to worse it can be x-rayed. There's no question Pete will know. It's just distressing there can be such a huge monetary difference.

In the 1970's I bought a maple cue and was told it was a Tad. It was only $70 (cheap and who cared). I sold it for the same amount a few years later and moved on. Just a few years ago, the guy who sold me the cue said "what ever happened to that Murray cue I sold you? I said "Murray? It was supposed to be a Tad." He kind of looked perplexed and apologized that he had lied.

Chris
 
I think I might have seen this cue. Ask him if he ever bought it down to the show. Which Gallery billiards? Another pool room name that is much to common. :grin:

Side bar: Room names that should not be allowed.. Gallery Billiards, Crown Billiards, Shooters, and the Corner or Side Pocket...

JV (---will send someone a case of beer that names their place Pocket Pool Billiards... lol

My home room will now and forever be known as "Pocket Pool Billiards"
Feel free to stop by with my case of beer anytime Joe!
 
This kinda thread

This kinda thread is to me what makes AZ so cool. Thanks for all the interesting information. Just a question, how many of these cues do you think were actually made? Thx again. Tony
 
This kinda thread is to me what makes AZ so cool. Thanks for all the interesting information. Just a question, how many of these cues do you think were actually made? Thx again. Tony

We're not quite sure what this cue is at this time, but I'm pretty sure it's a one of a kind custom, although there were similar designs used over time.

The owner is going to have the cue authenticated.

Chris
 
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