A Crazy Break Shot I've Never Seen Before

mosconiac

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This is likely a well-known "trick" shot, but I'd never seen it before. Some of the guys in my 14.1 league showed it to me...but none have been loony enough to shoot it in competition. :)

Well, there is ONE guy that expect to play it someday...he's one of those guys that will try to make a corner ball like he's breaking 1P.

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Yeah i know that one, used to play it for fun!

But i would not dare play it in competition, too many variables to rely on !

Steve
 
Practice that shot on a table you play on often. You make it way more than you think, depending on the speed at which you hit it. It's a flier, def... but not as wild a flier as people say. I can make it almost (not quite) 50% on my table on a perfect rack.

If I'm playing either a loser or a mega-champion, I might try it (the loser because I'll win anyways or a mega-champion because I'll lose anyways so why not try to get a lucky head start).
 
Well yeah i used to play it against the loser all the time, and yeah you are right its a 50/50 shot.

I wouldnt dare play this against the Winner though, because i always feel no matter what that i can win, if i keep my mental game in order.

And as long as he doesnt run 100 i feel if i get to the table i do have a chance to take down the Win.

Steve
 
Mosconi

Mosconi would play that shot in exhibition matches and would make it about 1/3rd of the time, or something like that.
 
You can see this from the opening scene of Baltimore Bullet (check the second video) You even get to see Willie Mosconi drawing shot diagrams in the scene

http://talk.cuetable.com/showthread.php?t=2042

I made the shot on the first try, and I have never tried again... So it's 100% for me on the record :D

I was talking to Thorsten about trying this and go for a "150 and out" without the opponent getting to the table. He gave me eyes.
 
You can see this from the opening scene of Baltimore Bullet (check the second video) You even get to see Willie Mosconi drawing shot diagrams in the scene
ah, Wei was a tad earlier with that remark. Yes, same with me, as soon as I saw this shot in the movie I tried it and made it on my first attempt. Then I failed in the next (imperfect rack?) when tried to show that to my friends but succeeded in the third again. Makes it 66% for me ;)

I was talking to Thorsten about trying this and go for a "150 and out" without the opponent getting to the table. He gave me eyes.
Really? What about THAT for an opening shot and 150 and out from here? That's what Thorsten played in EC final match against none other than Niels Feijen who could have punished him pretty severely if he missed.

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Wei, I have that match recorded from live stream and could try to upload it to Google or wherever to be included in your library. I reproduced the idea behind the shot but not up to precision of course.
 
There's another one where you use a little draw, hit the head ball straight on and send it into the side pocket. I saw it in a book, tried the next time I played, made it and ran 20 or so off the break, tried it again and again and again and kept missing it and selling out big numbers from the start of the game so I sent it into the memory bin and left it there. hehe!!
MULLY
 
Yes upload it to google and post the url to a new thread in http://talk.cuetable.com/forumdisplay.php?f=85

The forum system will take care of rest, which year was it from do you remember?
Google doesn't allow uploading videos any more, and as I don't need a YouTube account I uploaded the clip to AZBTV. The initial file is ASF stream, so I had to find a way to re-encode it to some appropriate format, which was not easy like most video editing tasks. As a result the clip of 10 minutes is almost as large as the original file (1 hour 15 mins), and the not-so-good quality can not be improved. For these reasons I provide only the first rack of the match.
(Wei, hope you can produce a perfect diagram of the shot and add it to the Cuetable library together with the video. pm me if you'd like to have the 90mb avi file for slightly better quality)

Back to the topic, like I afraid I did some mistakes when describing the shot. It was played on the other side of the rack, and it was ball in hand, and not a carom but a combo - but the shot is still impressive! I was also wrong about Thorsten's opponent. It was not Feijen but his compatriot Nicolas Otterman (I remember Hohmann played Feijen at the EC but all those years mix in my head). Nico had the first move and pocketed 5 balls but scratched while pocketing the last. From there Thorsten made his great decision and ran 125-and-out (at EC men play race to 125). Interesting, Thosten beat Alex Lely in the semis 125-2 in the same manner, Lely was a starter and then Hohmann ran out.
for those who can't help but waiting to see the shot, it happens at 6:45
 
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youtube? someone? nope, only azbtv and toastie ;)
what do you mean? (ah, sorry, I think you meant the shot mentioned by mosconiac in the thread opening post. pretty sure it won't take long to shoot some on video :))
 
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