A Curious CTE Diagram

JoeyInCali said:
Maybe you did .
I saw no tilting head .
And you insist it's so subtle you can't see it .
Bullsh8.
And his claim that ONLY Stan has CTE right is a nice advertisement .
And that means YOU don't have it right either .
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Umm, I am not teaching cute in any form except what stàn teaches at this point. But even then I just get get people interested enough to pursue it on their own. I regularly have table time with cte students like myself in order to deepen our mutual understanding of the method and compare notes.

The important part that you missed in Tyler's statement was that he has been using it since 2018 and said he wouldn't aim any other way.

Now here you are publicly calling him a liar. If you understood anything actually substantial about cte you would know that Stan has identified three ways of applying it, one of which is to use your eyes to initiate the alignment and go from standing to shooting position in a fluid motion without any pausing and clear mechanical movement. This is what Tyler uses and prefers.

You need some depth in a subject to be able to discuss it competently and you don't have that depth.
 
JB Cases said:
Umm, I am not teaching cute in any form except what stàn teaches at this point. But even then I just get get people interested enough to pursue it on their own. I regularly have table time with cte students like myself in order to deepen our mutual understanding of the method and compare notes.

The important part that you missed in Tyler's statement was that he has been using it since 2018 and said he wouldn't aim any other way.

Now here you are publicly calling him a liar. If you understood anything actually substantial about cte you would know that Stan has identified three ways of applying it, one of which is to use your eyes to initiate the alignment and go from standing to shooting position in a fluid motion without any pausing and clear mechanical movement. This is what Tyler uses and prefers.

You need some depth in a subject to be able to discuss it competently and you don't have that depth.
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More wordsmithing.
He does not tilt his head . No eye switching .
Just watched some more of him shooting against DD now .
Even same him bend over to line up a shot .
You're the liar . A pathological one too .
The same dude who argued it's ok to make LV and Chanel fake .
Then started crying when his cases were getting knocked-off.
 
You need some depth in a subject to be able to discuss it competently and you don't have that depth.
Oh wow. You're pretty deep.
There is no head tilting . You're a koolaid drinker if you keep insisting on that .
 
JoeyInCali said:
Go ahead contact him . Just like that CTE instructor there who said he was going to ask Efren if he really saw an aiming guru in PA. He never reported back .
You're the sick pathological dude .
To even consider Efren taking aiming lessons from Hal is laughable already .
Hal used to post here and went after me . So did Drivermaker . Drivermaker even claimed I did not know Efren personally . Hal did not refute the claim that Efren took aiming lessons from him . He did call me a nickname I forgot .
Stan in that video suggests Efren uses CTE . Full blown BULLSH8.
When Efren came here, he was already an insane pocketing machine . Bro, he did not need any aiming lessons from someone he could have given the orange crush .
He and Jose were nailing the spot shots on the Big Bertha at HT .

As far as your sermon, you're just another hypocrite .
If you fight for the truth, you're a freaking hero.
If I do it, I'm evil .
Stick your sermon up your corona virus conspiracy theory .
Why don't wake the last honest bone of yours up ?
Being pathological is pretty sorry .
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Lol, you think you're fighting for truth?

Stan never says Efren is using cte. He said, again, that a student of his observed Efren practicing and noticed movements that were similar to cte movements.

I asked eften directly to show is how he aims and he said he will reveal that when he stops playing. I did this with a shop full of people and I possibly have the exchange on video.

That of course doesn't mean that Efren aims using anything like cte. It does mean that he didn't want to talk about it which suggests that he aims in some way that is non-standard and possibly feels that this is an advantage he wants to keep to himself for now.

I don't know that you know Efren. I see you claiming it but I suppose not well enough to approach him on this topic. I don't know and it actually doesn't matter.

What matters is are we enjoying our time playing and are we making the shots we intend to make. The proof is on the table. Neither you nor I can ever know exactly what is happening in a person's brain simply by watching them play.

So it doesn't matter what is speculated through outside observation.

I took a lesson from Tyler in Las Vegas. He showed me the same information that was in stan's book and asked me not to discuss it until the book came out. I took that information to the 6*12 table in gorilla cafe and made several impressive shots in front of Tyler.

So there is truth and there is your quest. In your mind your quest represents truth and you see yourself as some sort of crusader. I think you're delusional. I actually feel better thinking of you as mentally sick rather than evil. I don't like to think of people as deliberately sadistic. I hope you are just sick and need help rather than you being willfully malicious.
 
JoeyInCali said:
More wordsmithing.
He does not tilt his head . No eye switching .
Just watched some more of him shooting against DD now .
Even same him bend over to line up a shot .
You're the liar . A pathological one too .
The same dude who argued it's ok to make LV and Chanel fake .
Then started crying when his cases were getting knocked-off.
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Huh, I never said it's ok to counterfeit anything.

Damn just when I read starting to have genuine pity for you condition.

I guess you are more evil than sick. Some of both I guess.

Now provide some out of context nonsense to attempt to support your defamatory claim against me.

Go on.
 
JB Cases said:
Huh, I never said it's ok to counterfeit anything.

Damn just when I read starting to have genuine pity for you condition.

I guess you are more evil than sick. Some of both I guess.

Now provide some out of context nonsense to attempt to support your defamatory claim against me.

Go on.
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Yes, you did .
" No big company went out of business because of counterfeits ." blah blah blah
Then I told you , I knew of a local maker who did .
The problem with liars is they forget their own lies .
 
JB Cases said:
Lol, you think you're fighting for truth?

Stan never says Efren is using cte. He said, again, that a student of his observed Efren practicing and noticed movements that were similar to cte movements.

I asked eften directly to show is how he aims and he said he will reveal that when he stops playing. I did this with a shop full of people and I possibly have the exchange on video.

That of course doesn't mean that Efren aims using anything like cte. It does mean that he didn't want to talk about it which suggests that he aims in some way that is non-standard and possibly feels that this is an advantage he wants to keep to himself for now.

I don't know that you know Efren. I see you claiming it but I suppose not well enough to approach him on this topic. I don't know and it actually doesn't matter.

What matters is are we enjoying our time playing and are we making the shots we intend to make. The proof is on the table. Neither you nor I can ever know exactly what is happening in a person's brain simply by watching them play.

So it doesn't matter what is speculated through outside observation.

I took a lesson from Tyler in Las Vegas. He showed me the same information that was in stan's book and asked me not to discuss it until the book came out. I took that information to the 6*12 table in gorilla cafe and made several impressive shots in front of Tyler.

So there is truth and there is your quest. In your mind your quest represents truth and you see yourself as some sort of crusader. I think you're delusional. I actually feel better thinking of you as mentally sick rather than evil. I don't like to think of people as deliberately sadistic. I hope you are just sick and need help rather than you being willfully malicious.
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Save it . He doesn't .
I already said how he aims .
Yeah, wait for him to retire .
He can't explain how he aims in English over the phone bro.
I do speak college level Tagalog .
 
JoeyInCali said:
More wordsmithing.
He does not tilt his head . No eye switching .
Just watched some more of him shooting against DD now .
Even same him bend over to line up a shot .
You're the liar . A pathological one too .
The same dude who argued it's ok to make LV and Chanel fake .
Then started crying when his cases were getting knocked-off.
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Also I have never once cried about my case designs being knocked off. I consider it a compliment to me that I build anything that someone else feels is worth copying. What I do talk about is the fraud that happens when someone builds an inferior knockoff that is dangerous to the cues inside of it.

I dissect knockoffs and other cases to determine the level of protection or lack of protection and make my findings clear to whomever is interested enough to watch.

Much like I take cte to the table and evaluate the efficacy and decide whether to incorporate it in my game or not. I dissect it as best I can and try to understand the instructions and apply them correctly and if the result is that I make more shots more consistently I can conclude that it works well and thus communicate that.
 
JoeyInCali said:
Yes, you did .
" No big company went out of business because of counterfeits ." blah blah blah
Then I told you , I knew of a local maker who did .
The problem with liars is they forget their own lies .
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A local maker is not a big company. And your claim is hearsay anyway.

But also I could be wrong about a big company going out of business due to counterfeits. Doesn't mean it happens frequently.

Now keep calling me a liar. You and I will meet again and I bet you won't repeat the slurs you feel comfortable saying when you're 1500 miles away.

I on the other hand will tell you exactly what I have said here and you won't do a thing about it. You're brave here but just like every other asshole I have ever met in real life you won't repeat your bullshit in front of me. And to be clear I am not threatening you at all. I am just confident based on previous experience that you will be meek in person.
 
JB Cases said:
A local maker is not a big company. And your claim is hearsay anyway.

But also I could be wrong about a big company going out of business due to counterfeits. Doesn't mean it happens frequently.

Now keep calling me a liar. You and I will meet again and I bet you won't repeat the slurs you feel comfortable saying when you're 1500 miles away.

I on the other hand will tell you exactly what I have said here and you won't do a thing about it. You're brave here but just like every other asshole I have ever met in real life you won't repeat your bullshit in front of me. And to be clear I am not threatening you at all. I am just confident based on previous experience that you will be meek in person.
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Oooh, is that a bodily threat John?
Wait, you're a victim now. You can slander me but not the other way around.
I'd call you a LIAR IN YOUR FACE and we can man up in the parking lot if you want .
Make sure your wife is not there . She won't like the way you look after .
 
JB Cases said:
A local maker is not a big company. And your claim is hearsay anyway.

But also I could be wrong about a big company going out of business due to counterfeits. Doesn't mean it happens frequently.
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Counterfeits made in China IS FRAUD.
Go ahead say it .
 
JoeyInCali said:
Save it . He doesn't .
I already said how he aims .
Yeah, wait for him to retire .
He can't explain how he aims in English over the phone bro.
I do speak college level Tagalog .
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He was in person at my shop.
I reported what he said. That's it.

Explain again. Write in Tagalog and in English. That way other Filipinos can take your words about Efren to Efren and we can see if he backs you up or not.

Either way it doesn't have any bearing on cte efficacy.
 
JB Cases said:
Lol, you don't know how quickly someone who is proficient can precisely do all the steps. If you understood the process as a user then this would be clear to you.

Maybe the clue needed is something you need to find because talking shit about something you can't even describe properly much less execute at all just makes you look quite clueless.
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Err, there is no head tilting .
 
The_JV said:
One thing I'm confused about regarding CTE and this book. Some keep saying that it can't be diagramed for whatever reason. Yet we have access to a 400 page book that should, I hope, have at least a few illustrations focusing on the diagraming of the process/steps involved.

Yes/No..?

Why can't we just screen shot a couple of these pages and put this to bed already?
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Lou can do what he wants to in that regard. Copyright doesn't apply as fair use law covers excerpts for study and discussion purposes.

And honestly ethics never stopped him in the past based on my experiences with him.
 
JB Cases said:
He was in person at my shop.
I reported what he said. That's it.

Explain again. Write in Tagalog and in English. That way other Filipinos can take your words about Efren to Efren and we can see if he backs you up or not.

Either way it doesn't have any bearing on cte efficacy.
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As Efren aged he said this , " minsan di ko na alam saan ang butas o may butas ba."
Go ahead ask him .
When he was looking for Rolando the day Mark Wilson called him about the COM match.
He was at Alex's home in Riverside . I was there after Alex called me .
He's taught Alex a few pointers . Alex was his match maker and road manager often while he was here .

You can ask Efren who he gave the trophy he won at the Gabriel's Open in Las Vegas in 2003.
He did not give it to Alex Lao .
 
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