A Math based game for playing pool

sjm said:
... Calling it a math based game is a stretch, as even the math in straight pool is more difficult, and I've never heard anyone call straight pool math based. In straight pool, if you had 67 and run the rack, now you have 81. If you scratch on your next turn, subtract one and now you have 80. Scratch on the turn after that and you've got 80. Scratch a third consecutive time and you've got 64.
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And snooker, as mentioned before, is even more math heavy. A player with five reds on the table looks at the scoreboard with his opponent in the lead 42-1 and he has to calculate mentally:

Is 42 - 1 + 6 +7 greater than 5*8 + the sum from 2 to 5 inclusive?

and the answer is that they are equal so the player has to take the pink off the cushion or he risks a respotted black.

And then he has to get down and make a 12-foot-long shot.
 
Bob Jewett said:
And snooker, as mentioned before, is even more math heavy. A player with five reds on the table looks at the scoreboard with his opponent in the lead 42-1 and he has to calculate mentally:

Is 42 - 1 + 6 +7 greater than 5*8 + the sum from 2 to 5 inclusive?

and the answer is that they are equal so the player has to take the pink off the cushion or he risks a respotted black.

And then he has to get down and make a 12-foot-long shot.
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To be fair, most of us don't really have to do the maths that far ahead!
 
sjm said:
Obviously, this game is just a slight variant of cribbage, which I first played about 50 years ago.

Calling it a math based game is a stretch, as even the math in straight pool is more difficult, and I've never heard anyone call straight pool math based. In straight pool, if you had 67 and run the rack, now you have 81. If you scratch on your next turn, subtract one and now you have 80. Scratch on the turn after that and you've got 80. Scratch a third consecutive time and you've got 64.

Only a person of single digit age would learn anything from the math found in cribbage or the variant of it introduced in this thread.
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Or if you REALLY want to be motivated to learn math just go to any pool hall in the US in the 80s or 90s and try to figure out what game to play with whom and what prop bet you might win at.

Should you play the guy in coveralls chess or play 9-ball with the truck driver? Maybe backgammon with the Eastern Caribbean gentleman? Probably not.

Talk about making your head hurt.
 
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Let's Promote DrDaves new counting method with a game.

DrDave had a recent video with a set shot. How about a game about finding out how much distance the system is consistent for?

In his latest video its about playing the right pocket speed. What if the system holds but he doesn't know the other speeds or lengths?

DrDave is not a pro pool player. Pro pool players have way more hours on the table. And his last challenge didn't seem so popular. At least now he can put together his ideas and build his community around it.

In some applications ideas that can be used repeatedly and in clear situations are good solutions. Its about letting pool players share what they know.
 
justnum said:
Let's Promote DrDaves new counting method with a game.

DrDave had a recent video with a set shot. How about a game about finding out how much distance the system is consistent for?

In his latest video its about playing the right pocket speed. What if the system holds but he doesn't know the other speeds or lengths?

DrDave is not a pro pool player. Pro pool players have way more hours on the table. And his last challenge didn't seem so popular. At least now he can put together his ideas and build his community around it.

In some applications ideas that can be used repeatedly and in clear situations are good solutions. Its about letting pool players share what they know.
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Don't be surprised if Dr. Dave hunts you down and gives you a chocolate swirly.
 
HNTFSH said:
Don't be surprised if Dr. Dave hunts you down and gives you a chocolate swirly.
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based on how he talks, maybe its best to leave dr. it might give people the wrong expectation.
 
Fatboy said:
Want to do math?

play backgammon
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I had a guy tell me the pip count is everything....so I put 14 of his men on his one point. His last man on my one point.
I gave myself a six man fill from my seven point and my last three men on his two point.
I told him to do the pip count and let me know if you want to bet at least a $100.
we played, I won...and he complained that I got lucky...I told him we can do this as long as you have money.
 
pt109 said:
I had a guy tell me the pip count is everything....so I put 14 of his men on his one point. His last man on my one point.
I gave myself a six man fill from my seven point and my last three men on his two point.
I told him to do the pip count and let me know if you want to bet at least a $100.
we played, I won...and he complained that I got lucky...I told him we can do this as long as you have money.
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Wastage is the concept(stacked ace point) and you hand the nuts. Well done!
 
Rack’em said:
There are some flaws in this game. There is no need to add or think about what balls to make together because there is only one option for each ball. 1&15 2&14 3&13 4&12 5&11 6&10 these are all the pairs. Also based on your rules the 7 ball is will always be out of play.
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Eight would be odd in this scenario. 9 and 7 make 16. As already stated there is a game called cribbage which is scored by making balls in increments of 15, with the 15 being the last ball made, or the winning crib.

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We used to play this all the time back in the the day and we too called it Cribbage. Slightly different rules from what you suggest but pretty much the same idea. A more challenging version based in math might be pocketing balls so each represents the side of a triangle. You then have to pocket a third ball that equals the hypotenuse when you apply the Pythagorean theorem using the other two numbers. Pocket the 3 and 4....then you have to pocket the 5. A-squared + B-squared = C-squared. Pocket the 15 then the 10 you then have to pocket whatever adds up to 18.0277563 or thereabouts. Maybe the 14 and the 4. The 12 and the 6.....etc. I can see a WHOLE line of pocket billiard calculators and wall charts and we could call it Poolthagorus. Lol.
 
Fibonaccis streak 15 ball break
pocket two balls from 1-8
and the corresponding fibonacci sum ball.
respot balls as pocketed.

a fibonacci sum ball is the number you get from adding two seed numbers. in this case the two numbered balls from 1-8

just introduce the vocabulary cribbage is just a word
 
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Rack’em said:
There are some flaws in this game. There is no need to add or think about what balls to make together because there is only one option for each ball. 1&15 2&14 3&13 4&12 5&11 6&10 these are all the pairs. Also based on your rules the 7 ball is will always be out of play.
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7 + 9
 
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