A Message to Matchroom - Fix These Six Things Please

The argument used by many 'they are playing on the same table' just doesn't hold water for me.

So they could have a football game and not put enough air in the football and you would be ok with it? They are both playing with the same ball.

Golf is very careful where they hold their tournaments and if they make a mistake, they correct it. Sure players are all playing under the same conditions but they are looking for specific characteristics when they hold an event. There is a semi private course by my home and they held a web.com tour event there once. This course opened in 1995 and was ranked by Golf Digest as the third best course to open that year. But during the web.com event, a large number of pros were shooting in the low 60s each day. It was a joke. Guess what -- web.com smartly never came back.
 
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-The fan code of behavior is not helping the game transcend its association with alcohol and caveman
-Tight pockets on all Pro level events. Lets go 5x10 already.
-I dont like the RACK and RAKE being place on the floor. It looks like s#$t.
-Can we get Underarmour to do nice set of kits for the players?
-Can we get any carmaker to have a nice row of car seats like they do in pro soccer instead of thse swivel chairs? Advertising money and clean aesthetics.
-The shot clock needs a different sound

The best part of Mosconi Cup broadcast is that KILLER bumper/theme music. Its' just the best.
 
Fixes always create new problems that need to be fixed. I can think of many examples in our sport. Enough for those headaches. As much as it is fun to critique and anylize the event, I prefer to just kick back be entertained by the specticle. I think the Mosconi Cup is just fine.

Currently this is how I feel also.I am enjoying watching it.
 
2. The break. The 9 ball on the spot simply isn't working in the game of 9 ball. The players already figured it out and went to the cut break, making the one in the side more than ever. You need to move the spot DOWN on the table which obviously moves the rack DOWN on the table, about two spots in distance. Than rack the one of the spot. The wing balls won't go and the one ball will be very difficult to make in the side.

By the way, I am copyrighting, trademarking and patenting 'The Watchez Spot'
 
The argument used by many 'they are playing on the same table' just doesn't hold water for me.

So they could have a football game and not put enough air in the football and you would be ok with it? They are both playing with the same ball.

Adding and removing air in the football is an age old practice
 
The argument used by many 'they are playing on the same table' just doesn't hold water for me.

So they could have a football game and not put enough air in the football and you would be ok with it? They are both playing with the same ball.

Golf is very careful where they hold their tournaments and if they make a mistake, they correct it. Sure players are all playing under the same conditions but they are looking for specific characteristics when they hold an event. There is a semi private course by my home and they held a web.com tour event there once. This course opened in 1995 and was ranked by Golf Digest as the third best course to open that year. But during the web.com event, a large number of pros were shooting in the low 60s each day. It was a joke. Guess what -- web.com smartly never came back.

They don't play the Ryder cup in US Open conditions the play it on a course set up far easier ,, they don't want players to struggle for pars they want it to be a battle of birdies
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I think they should seriously consider a 'played in' table as you suggest Lou.

While this table plays easy for soft shots down rails, it is a nightmare for executing a lot of stroke shots with english, which means we get a simplified version of the game.

Toward the end of yesterday, Bergman scratched and Appleton ran into the 8 on the rail when their inside english shots didn't grip as they usually do on a played in table.

I know the best deal with such conditions the best, but why play under conditions that no one can afford to practice under, as they'd need new cloth on the table and rails every week.

Also - Large Monitors for the commentators is a must. I feel sorry for them. They can't see half of what the viewers are seeing.

Colin


Colin, I think the idea of new cloth is wonderful and certainly beautiful. But for an event like this there should be some way to break it in, maybe rub it down at least with a chalk impregnated cloth.

A couple of years ago I played in the US One Pocket Open in Vegas and it was the same deal: new Simonis and new Aramiths straight from Belgium. It was like playing on ice. I drew Larry Nevel, a guy with one of the biggest strokes in pool, and there we were, seeing who could hit the ball softest. Super tough to control whitey and play the game properly.

Lou Figueroa
 
i wish people would get off the "let them play on a 10 footer"

Did they change the height of the basketball rim, when Wilt the Stlit dominated the game?
 
First - major props for bringing an exciting event to pool. You have proven that a race to 5 can be just as exciting and riveting as a race to 11. It is a great four hours of pool production each day. That is plenty to watch and keep people interested. And bringing back professionalism to American pool with instilling Mark Wilson as this year's captain. I could go on and on with what is right about this year's Mosconi Cup, but you already know that.

But there are things you need to fix. I saw you fixed the capitalization of Shane's last name after I pointed it out, so it makes me think you are listening so here it goes.........

1. The table. Why choose a Diamond if it is going to be setup to play like a bar table? Diamond is the class of the class of tables in the market today. It is a fair table but one that you have to have a standard of skill level to master. I understand that TV lights will ease up a table but the brand new cloth and what seems (I could be wrong) side pockets cut wide open and this table is simply too easy. Sure it provides run out pool as no one wants to see players struggling. but these guys are all professionals and can still impress under tighter conditions. In the same respect, no one wants to see a ball hit between the second and third diamond and still go in.

Diamond tables are beautiful and deserve to be showcased in the Mosconi. Matchroom sets them up easy because it means that the players look better and he games go faster. Like you, I wouldn't want the World 9-ball Championships played with such easy equipment, but even if I don't like it, I can deal with it at the Mosconi.


2. The break. The 9 ball on the spot simply isn't working in the game of 9 ball. The players already figured it out and went to the cut break, making the one in the side more than ever. You need to move the spot DOWN on the table which obviously moves the rack DOWN on the table, about two spots in distance. Than rack the one of the spot. The wing balls won't go and the one ball will be very difficult to make in the side.

I don't have a problem with where they rack the nine but wouldn't mind this change.


3. The shot clock. I love the shot clock caused no one likes slow play. However, when it gets down to 5 seconds and the shot clock is going off with each second like Defcon 5 has just arrived, with this loud thunderous beeping, no one is going to be successfully be able to shoot under those conditions. The drunk English fans are a big enough distraction. One normal toned beep at 5 seconds remaining is good enough. If the player doesn't shoot then in 5 seconds or ask for an extension, so be it. Give the captain the right to call out extension as well so his player isn't charged a foul if he loses track of time. Put a shot clock(s) around the time in view for the players if it is that much of an issue as well.

Agreed, the beeping is overwhelming.


4. The fans. I like that the fans are in to it. Reminds me of the final tables of the WSOP. Good clean fun. But there is a time and place for everything. And when referees warning has to take place cause it isn't working. If the crowd can't be respectful when a player is down shooting, security should escort them out. I bet after the first one, it won't happen again. If they want to hoot and holler after each game, let them have it. Tennis takes less concentration and they don't allow it. Also, if alcohol sales is going to be present, don't sell them bottles. Either put their beer in a plastic cup or sell plastic bottles. It is ridiculous to hear during a magnificent production such as thing, beer bottles clanging as they are dropped to the floor.

Agreed.

5. The announcers. I hear that the announcers in the booth are given small monitors or a poor view of the table. If so, fix that. Give them a 55 inch screen to watch or a better seat in the house. There are too many missed calls and it makes the announcers appear they don't know the game. If that is not the case, then fix the announcers (I am available by the way).

Yes, the commentary has sometimes been dreadful, and as experienced commentators are in the booth, they must have a poor view of the play to have been wrong so often.

6. The players entrance. Have their cues already down by their chair. No one can see what type of playing cue they are using as they enter anyways if they are thinking the sponsors might want it. I understand they are coming off the practice table in the back somewhere, but you could have some staff member be responsible for securely getting their cues table side. I can see some cue getting caught up in some drunk fan or a players nerves getting the best of him and tripping holding his cue, breaking and then what? Daz gonna borrow a cue from the crowd to play with? And without their cues in hand, the the players can make an even bigger entrance, high fiving more fans. Pumping their fists like they are on Jersey Shore. The whole 9 yards.

Disagree. Their cues are their weapons and set the mood for the battle to come.

Great first two days. Thanks for bringing it to the fans.

Signed,
Watchez (is the Teacher)

p.s. If I think of anything else, I will let you know.

See comments in blue above.
 
In fact, Billy I. once called me the best third base coach he had ever seen. I'll have to talk to Mark to see if he wants to stake me to Vega$ next year to be in the crowd and give a little back. I would be worth a game or two for sure.

A drunk, crazy Cleary in the crowd can change everything.
 
3. The shot clock. I love the shot clock cause no one likes slow play. However, when it gets down to 5 seconds and the shot clock is going off with each second like Defcon 5 has just arrived, with this loud thunderous beeping, no one is going to be successfully be able to shoot under those conditions. The drunk English fans are a big enough distraction. One normal toned beep at 5 seconds remaining is good enough. If the player doesn't shoot then in 5 seconds or ask for an extension, so be it. Give the captain the right to call out extension as well so his player isn't charged a foul if he loses track of time. Put a shot clock(s) around the time in view for the players if it is that much of an issue as well.

Honestly, I don't mind the beeping. As far as I know the clocks are already in view for the player, but obviously they're going to be focusing as much as possible on the table anyway.

The beeping can be a bit much, but if you've taken 25 seconds over a shot then you've really put the pressure on yourself enough that a few beeps shouldn't matter. And more importantly, I'd rather a player be slightly put off by some beeping but be certain that they need to hit the ball now, than for them to not hear/ignore a single beep and foul on a shot clock violation.
 
Honestly, I don't mind the beeping. As far as I know the clocks are already in view for the player, but obviously they're going to be focusing as much as possible on the table anyway.

The beeping can be a bit much, but if you've taken 25 seconds over a shot then you've really put the pressure on yourself enough that a few beeps shouldn't matter. And more importantly, I'd rather a player be slightly put off by some beeping but be certain that they need to hit the ball now, than for them to not hear/ignore a single beep and foul on a shot clock violation.

The beeping isn't a big deal, what seems like an issue is that every time there is that first beep they think they immediately have to fire a shot rather than realizing they have 5 seconds left to focus and get off a steady shot.
 
The beeping isn't a big deal, what seems like an issue is that every time there is that first beep they think they immediately have to fire a shot rather than realizing they have 5 seconds left to focus and get off a steady shot.

Yeah I have noticed that, too. You can tell the players who deal with it well, as they generally let the clock tick (beep) down a couple of seconds and hit the ball on the last beep or so.
 
Excellent thread with some outstanding points made... Overall, I'm really digging the show...

My criticisms...

I think the game play commentary has been horrible and the table does seem to play easier than it should...

From watching the players when they are at the foot of the table, it seems they must turn around to see the shot clock each time shooting from there. I think they might actually be looking at a broadcast feed monitor because you also can see audience members in the background pointing in that direction and checking themselves out from time to time. IMHO, a shot clock in this forum should be visible from both the head and foot of the table. It saves the player from wasting a second or two to turn around and look when it happens to be to their back. We've seen that seconds can matter here.

If you're going to do a walk-in they way they do.... why not have the players leave their cues in their cases so they can high-five with the fans on the way to their seat? Then let them assemble their equipment when they get to their seats. There's plenty of time, and it makes that moment less awkward. And for that matter, why not do a player stat card before each match that shows what equipment they use? They could give individual cue specs (weight/length/diameter) and preferred case, etc... That might make potential sponsors step up and encourage more financial support.

I like the car seat idea someone mentioned... Can someone please call Recaro?

And how cheezy is it to see that players obviously used double stick tape (and cheap double stick tape at that) for sponsor ads barely clinging onto their shirts? I'm thinking mostly of the European team on this one... This isn't club-level pool, it's an internationally televised event. The loose edges of the patches/stickers/whatever are complete eye-sores and look cheap. Then again, any visibility is probably considered good visibility... I wonder how the sponsors feel about that? Seriously though, how about sewing or ironing patches onto to the shirts?
 
Diamonds are Diamonds. It's just the cloth.

And before I was a USAF spokesmodel I was a 5,000 mile sniper. That would be the distance between a Great Falls, Montana Minuteman silo in India Flight to downtown Moscow. Pulled just over 200 alerts minding the keys to 10 of those bad boys.

Lou Figueroa

Very cool, Lou.
I believe you and I were in the same career field.
Although the ones I worked on were slightly smaller and hung from the wings of B52's :smile:
 
First - major props for bringing an exciting event to pool. You have proven that a race to 5 can be just as exciting and riveting as a race to 11. It is a great four hours of pool production each day. That is plenty to watch and keep people interested. And bringing back professionalism to American pool with instilling Mark Wilson as this year's captain. I could go on and on with what is right about this year's Mosconi Cup, but you already know that.

But there are things you need to fix. I saw you fixed the capitalization of Shane's last name after I pointed it out, so it makes me think you are listening so here it goes.........

1. The table. Why choose a Diamond if it is going to be setup to play like a bar table? Diamond is the class of the class of tables in the market today. It is a fair table but one that you have to have a standard of skill level to master. I understand that TV lights will ease up a table but the brand new cloth and what seems (I could be wrong) side pockets cut wide open and this table is simply too easy. Sure it provides run out pool as no one wants to see players struggling. but these guys are all professionals and can still impress under tighter conditions. In the same respect, no one wants to see a ball hit between the second and third diamond and still go in.

2. The break. The 9 ball on the spot simply isn't working in the game of 9 ball. The players already figured it out and went to the cut break, making the one in the side more than ever. You need to move the spot DOWN on the table which obviously moves the rack DOWN on the table, about two spots in distance. Than rack the one of the spot. The wing balls won't go and the one ball will be very difficult to make in the side.

3. The shot clock. I love the shot clock cause no one likes slow play. However, when it gets down to 5 seconds and the shot clock is going off with each second like Defcon 5 has just arrived, with this loud thunderous beeping, no one is going to be successfully be able to shoot under those conditions. The drunk English fans are a big enough distraction. One normal toned beep at 5 seconds remaining is good enough. If the player doesn't shoot then in 5 seconds or ask for an extension, so be it. Give the captain the right to call out extension as well so his player isn't charged a foul if he loses track of time. Put a shot clock(s) around the time in view for the players if it is that much of an issue as well.

4. The fans. I like that the fans are in to it. Reminds me of the final tables of the WSOP. Good clean fun. But there is a time and place for everything. And when referees warning has to take place cause it isn't working. If the crowd can't be respectful when a player is down shooting, security should escort them out. I bet after the first one, it won't happen again. If they want to hoot and holler after each game, let them have it. Tennis takes less concentration and they don't allow it. Also, if alcohol sales is going to be present, don't sell them bottles. Either put their beer in a plastic cup or sell plastic bottles. It is ridiculous to hear during a magnificent production such as thing, beer bottles clanging as they are dropped to the floor.

5. The announcers. I hear that the announcers in the booth are given small monitors or a poor view of the table. If so, fix that. Give them a 55 inch screen to watch or a better seat in the house. There are too many missed calls and it makes the announcers appear they don't know the game. If that is not the case, then fix the announcers (I am available by the way).

6. The players entrance. Have their cues already down by their chair. No one can see what type of playing cue they are using as they enter anyways if they are thinking the sponsors might want it. I understand they are coming off the practice table in the back somewhere, but you could have some staff member be responsible for securely getting their cues table side. I can see some cue getting caught up in some drunk fan or a players nerves getting the best of him and tripping holding his cue, breaking and then what? Daz gonna borrow a cue from the crowd to play with? And without their cues in hand, the the players can make an even bigger entrance, high fiving more fans. Pumping their fists like they are on Jersey Shore. The whole 9 yards.

Great first two days. Thanks for bringing it to the fans.

Signed,
Watchez (is the Teacher)

p.s. If I think of anything else, I will let you know.

WHY?
Seems to me that matchroom have quite a strong product.
Euro crowd will do its bit. As I'm sure the US crowd will do their bit.
America has the unique opportunity to create an American atmosphere when on home soil which will again add to what is already a good show.
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My only criticism is that there's not more events with this type of atmosphere and energy. Thanks to all involved for bringing 1st class pool to the masses.
 
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