A Mongrel Horde of NITS

ExilePreacher

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Forgive my rant. It's long. I'm frustrated. I've been playing this game for 30 years. I love this game. I love playing for money but I'm one of those rare birds that happens to be an excellent player and yet will still play for fun, not only for money. I don't care, I just want to play. I'll teach a beginner or intermediate player for free if he covers the table time. I play for the sake of the game. My guiding principle in pool is, ala Gelett Burges, "It is in the blood of genius to love play for its own sake, and whether one uses one's skill on thrones or women, swords or pens, gold or fame, the game's the thing."

But lately I've been bombarded with what can only be called "A Mongrel Horde of NITS". Here is just a minuscule sample:

1. A guy comes into our pool room last month and beats up on one of our C- beginners. The kid happens to be a friend of mine and I tell him to quit, the game is no good. The other guy is obviously laying down and trapping my friend. He's so obvious I am able to tell the kid what shot the guy is going to "miss" and where both the cue and object balls are gonna end up. So my friend gets wise, listens to me, and quits $40 down. Cheap lesson right? So I challenge the guy for a measly $20 a game. He automatically asks for the seven and the break and won't play without the spot! Then he says he will call a guy! For $20 a game?!?!? I tell him if he's gotta call a guy for $20 he's got problems and should just take up corn hole instead, but to go ahead and call the guy. It happens to be someone I've beaten to death years ago so I know it ain't gonna happen. Where is the HEART?

2. On four separate occasions in the last month I've had four different players quit on me in the middle of a set. Now, thankfully I got paid. They didn't air me. But what kind of eunuch does it take to just say, "Screw it. I can't win, take my money?" One guy I can almost understand, he had lost one set already and was down 11 to 1 getting a ton of weight and hadn't had a makable shot since the first game (which he won). But the other guys just quit after a few racks. What makes it worse is every one of these guys BARKED AT ME for a game and then begged for a spot. I never asked one of them. I didn't challenge them. But they quit before the game was over. Where's the HEART?

3. The barking leads me to my next example. For a year now scores of guys come into the pool room (or run up to me when I visit other places) and say "You wanna play for some?" Sure I reply. The next words out of their mouths? You guessed it: "What will you give me?" Most have never seen me, don't know me, never heard of me, have no idea if I can make a ball!! WTF? But I'm game and I usually offer the last two in 9 Ball or 9-8 one pocket etc. It's not enough, they run and go ask someone else. I'm not against lesser players getting a spot nor asking for one. I give them all the time. But since when is it acceptable to challenge someone you don't know and then immediately ask for a huge spot? Contrast this with a kid who works at the place where I usually go. I walk in, see him practicing (he's learning) and I say I'll give you 7-2 games in eight ball, I'll shoot one handed. This kid knows me. He knows how I play. He's watched me play one handed for hours. He immediately pulls out a $20 bill and says "Let's go". He loses, pays, says "I'm getting that back from you very soon." He's not a player, but he's got something these other NITS don't: HEART. And I figure the next time he gets that spot he's gonna rob me and I'm gonna be just fine with that. And I won't change the spot, I'll just keep trying to beat him because he earned it.

4. A regular who likes to gamble but fits the profile described in #3 keeps asking for a game. This guy can play. He can run out regularly. He's not helpless. He's a player. Get the idea? But play even? Nooooo! Finally he barks at me enough and I say, "I'll play you even, then we can adjust after a couple sets." He cusses, complains, whines and then finally agrees. We play one set, he loses, unscrews and whines for thirty minutes about needing a spot. Pays me and leaves. Two nights ago he comes back, begs for a game and a spot, gets one from me and then backs out because I wanna play by the game rather than sets. He finally agrees but wants to play too cheap. Eventually he agrees to enough money for me to miss sleep and stay to play. Then the whining begins. First he whines about 10 Ball rules. Then he whines because he supposedly thought the last two was the same as having the nine ball (who doesn't know that??). Then he whines when he fouls on a jump shot and says he didn't hit the cue ball but I show him the OBVIOUS scuff mark on the cue ball caused by his phenolic tip. Lastly, he goes ballistic when I three foul him. I told him in three separate games he was on two fouls and he said ok, and carefully made sure he didn't foul. The last time he made contact but scratched and then swears he has "never heard of any three foul rule" and doesn't believe ANYONE ever plays that way and quits! Then he whines when I tell him he's persona non grata and will never get another game with me because I'm not playing with a whiny NIT who cheats and then needs me to access the WPA web site with my iPhone to prove a rule. Where is the HEART?

5. A road player comes into our place this past Sunday. He's stalking the room and my buddy asks, " You looking for a game?" He says yes in either banks or one pocket. My friend plays neither but I bite. I agree to one hole but he says, nah I want to play banks. I tell him this ain't Kentucky. He laughs and everything appears to be on the way to a game. Banks ain't my thing. I'm barely competent frankly. You won't see me on a road trip to Ohio or Kentucky any time in the foreseeable future. But what the heck. I get my cue, agree to play and go hit a few banks to loosen my arm. The guy backs out. Says he ain't slept in three days and just got back from Tennessee (which ain't far by the way). So I say, we can go cheap, just $20 a game. He gets his girlfriend and puts his tail between his legs and runs. This guy ain't a world beater. He's a low level shortstop but HE'S A ROAD PLAYER about to match up with a guy who hasn't played banks seriously since the Bush administration and wasn't any good then. WTF? Where is the HEART?

6. This is the last one I promise. Two guys have started frequenting our room. They usually have some friends with them. One of them keeps telling his buds how good he is and that he's gonna hustle everyone there eventually. He keeps asking us if we know this phantom world beater and then describes him: yep you guessed it, he's describing himself. Anyway he flashes money to his buds, talks trash. It's all BS. We all know it. Every time we ask him to gamble he's got an excuse. Anyway, I'm going to get a beer and he meets me with his friends in tow and says, "Let's go, five hundred a rack!" I say sorry pal, I only got four hundred on me but if you wanna go for $100 that's fine by me. He gives the typical BS, "That ain't enough." So I go get my best friend there who has a trunk full and he tells the guy that he will play him. Guy says no, he wants me. Ok, my friend will back me. Again, we know he's full of it but it's a matter of principle now. We razz this guy relentlessly and his own friends start in on him. Yet he's still coming in almost every night talking smack and never playing. NO HEART.

When did all these HEARTLESS NITS start coming to pool rooms and where did they come from?

I'm tired of NITS.
 
I agree with most of it except the spot thing, because i hear it a lot and it doesn't seem to make sense to me. To say somebody doesn't have heart or is a nit to not run head first into a losing game, but to turn around and refuse to give up a spot that may make things a little closer, wouldn't that also be the same lack of heart?

In the scenario where a weak player is getting beat, the guy asks for a spot, you refuse, then say he calls up another(presumably better) that you beat on, wouldn't it make sense that you could easily handle the spot? Like i said before, i hear that kind of thing up here and i just can't figure out the logic. Maybe you're just not accustomed to giving up spots to people you aren't friends with or something, i don't know.

I played a decent master a while back and beat him with the 8. A GM was waiting nearby and wanted next. He wouldn't give up any more weight. Crushed me like a bug, wasn't even a challenge. Wanted to play again.. with the same weight!! Told him I'd play him banks even or 9 with more weight. He refused. That, imo, is the definition of no heart.
 
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I think you misunderstand me a bit. The guys asking for weight I'm referring to aren't people who are merely trying to get a fair game. They go into it assuming too much. Either they're assuming they're gonna rob me or assuming I'm a world beater. Either way, my point is don't go barking for a game with someone you've never seen at all and then, when the guy says let's do it, then ask for the seven and the break. Also don't go beat up a kid who's a C- player who you could give the seven out to and still rob him but then chicken out and ask me for the world when a real player shows up.

As for giving weight to someone I don't know: I do it all the time. And I do it with the guys I'm complaining about. Further, I'll adjust if it ain't enough. But these guys ARE THE ONES BARKING. I'm not the one asking to play. They are.

When I'm looking for a game I usually just offer something to get it going. A case in point, there was a pretty good eight ball player in our place about six weeks ago. I told him I'd play 6-5 games and if he lost it'd go 6-4, then 6-3 etc. down to 6-2 then up on me thereafter 7-2, 8-2, etc. He was scared. Why? But the same guy barks and then asks for weight from lesser players. He's a NIT.
 
EP, I like the cut of your Gib. You need to post more often ;)

PS: I don't really know what a "gib" is but it's fun to say ;)
 
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Forgive my rant. It's long. I'm frustrated. I've been playing this game for 30 years. I love this game. I love playing for money but I'm one of those rare birds that happens to be an excellent player and yet will still play for fun, not only for money. I don't care, I just want to play. I'll teach a beginner or intermediate player for free if he covers the table time. I play for the sake of the game. My guiding principle in pool is, ala Gelett Burges, "It is in the blood of genius to love play for its own sake, and whether one uses one's skill on thrones or women, swords or pens, gold or fame, the game's the thing."

But lately I've been bombarded with what can only be called "A Mongrel Horde of NITS". Here is just a minuscule sample:

1. A guy comes into our pool room last month and beats up on one of our C- beginners. The kid happens to be a friend of mine and I tell him to quit, the game is no good. The other guy is obviously laying down and trapping my friend. He's so obvious I am able to tell the kid what shot the guy is going to "miss" and where both the cue and object balls are gonna end up. So my friend gets wise, listens to me, and quits $40 down. Cheap lesson right? So I challenge the guy for a measly $20 a game. He automatically asks for the seven and the break and won't play without the spot! Then he says he will call a guy! For $20 a game?!?!? I tell him if he's gotta call a guy for $20 he's got problems and should just take up corn hole instead, but to go ahead and call the guy. It happens to be someone I've beaten to death years ago so I know it ain't gonna happen. Where is the HEART?

2. On four separate occasions in the last month I've had four different players quit on me in the middle of a set. Now, thankfully I got paid. They didn't air me. But what kind of eunuch does it take to just say, "Screw it. I can't win, take my money?" One guy I can almost understand, he had lost one set already and was down 11 to 1 getting a ton of weight and hadn't had a makable shot since the first game (which he won). But the other guys just quit after a few racks. What makes it worse is every one of these guys BARKED AT ME for a game and then begged for a spot. I never asked one of them. I didn't challenge them. But they quit before the game was over. Where's the HEART?

3. The barking leads me to my next example. For a year now scores of guys come into the pool room (or run up to me when I visit other places) and say "You wanna play for some?" Sure I reply. The next words out of their mouths? You guessed it: "What will you give me?" Most have never seen me, don't know me, never heard of me, have no idea if I can make a ball!! WTF? But I'm game and I usually offer the last two in 9 Ball or 9-8 one pocket etc. It's not enough, they run and go ask someone else. I'm not against lesser players getting a spot nor asking for one. I give them all the time. But since when is it acceptable to challenge someone you don't know and then immediately ask for a huge spot? Contrast this with a kid who works at the place where I usually go. I walk in, see him practicing (he's learning) and I say I'll give you 7-2 games in eight ball, I'll shoot one handed. This kid knows me. He knows how I play. He's watched me play one handed for hours. He immediately pulls out a $20 bill and says "Let's go". He loses, pays, says "I'm getting that back from you very soon." He's not a player, but he's got something these other NITS don't: HEART. And I figure the next time he gets that spot he's gonna rob me and I'm gonna be just fine with that. And I won't change the spot, I'll just keep trying to beat him because he earned it.

4. A regular who likes to gamble but fits the profile described in #3 keeps asking for a game. This guy can play. He can run out regularly. He's not helpless. He's a player. Get the idea? But play even? Nooooo! Finally he barks at me enough and I say, "I'll play you even, then we can adjust after a couple sets." He cusses, complains, whines and then finally agrees. We play one set, he loses, unscrews and whines for thirty minutes about needing a spot. Pays me and leaves. Two nights ago he comes back, begs for a game and a spot, gets one from me and then backs out because I wanna play by the game rather than sets. He finally agrees but wants to play too cheap. Eventually he agrees to enough money for me to miss sleep and stay to play. Then the whining begins. First he whines about 10 Ball rules. Then he whines because he supposedly thought the last two was the same as having the nine ball (who doesn't know that??). Then he whines when he fouls on a jump shot and says he didn't hit the cue ball but I show him the OBVIOUS scuff mark on the cue ball caused by his phenolic tip. Lastly, he goes ballistic when I three foul him. I told him in three separate games he was on two fouls and he said ok, and carefully made sure he didn't foul. The last time he made contact but scratched and then swears he has "never heard of any three foul rule" and doesn't believe ANYONE ever plays that way and quits! Then he whines when I tell him he's persona non grata and will never get another game with me because I'm not playing with a whiny NIT who cheats and then needs me to access the WPA web site with my iPhone to prove a rule. Where is the HEART?

5. A road player comes into our place this past Sunday. He's stalking the room and my buddy asks, " You looking for a game?" He says yes in either banks or one pocket. My friend plays neither but I bite. I agree to one hole but he says, nah I want to play banks. I tell him this ain't Kentucky. He laughs and everything appears to be on the way to a game. Banks ain't my thing. I'm barely competent frankly. You won't see me on a road trip to Ohio or Kentucky any time in the foreseeable future. But what the heck. I get my cue, agree to play and go hit a few banks to loosen my arm. The guy backs out. Says he ain't slept in three days and just got back from Tennessee (which ain't far by the way). So I say, we can go cheap, just $20 a game. He gets his girlfriend and puts his tail between his legs and runs. This guy ain't a world beater. He's a low level shortstop but HE'S A ROAD PLAYER about to match up with a guy who hasn't played banks seriously since the Bush administration and wasn't any good then. WTF? Where is the HEART?

6. This is the last one I promise. Two guys have started frequenting our room. They usually have some friends with them. One of them keeps telling his buds how good he is and that he's gonna hustle everyone there eventually. He keeps asking us if we know this phantom world beater and then describes him: yep you guessed it, he's describing himself. Anyway he flashes money to his buds, talks trash. It's all BS. We all know it. Every time we ask him to gamble he's got an excuse. Anyway, I'm going to get a beer and he meets me with his friends in tow and says, "Let's go, five hundred a rack!" I say sorry pal, I only got four hundred on me but if you wanna go for $100 that's fine by me. He gives the typical BS, "That ain't enough." So I go get my best friend there who has a trunk full and he tells the guy that he will play him. Guy says no, he wants me. Ok, my friend will back me. Again, we know he's full of it but it's a matter of principle now. We razz this guy relentlessly and his own friends start in on him. Yet he's still coming in almost every night talking smack and never playing. NO HEART.

When did all these HEARTLESS NITS start coming to pool rooms and where did they come from?

I'm tired of NITS.

Very entertaining. I didn't want the post to end.
 
I think you misunderstand me a bit. The guys asking for weight I'm referring to aren't people who are merely trying to get a fair game. They go into it assuming too much. Either they're assuming they're gonna rob me or assuming I'm a world beater. Either way, my point is don't go barking for a game with someone you've never seen at all and then, when the guy says let's do it, then ask for the seven and the break. Also don't go beat up a kid who's a C- player who you could give the seven out to and still rob him but then chicken out and ask me for the world when a real player shows up.

As for giving weight to someone I don't know: I do it all the time. And I do it with the guys I'm complaining about. Further, I'll adjust if it ain't enough. But these guys ARE THE ONES BARKING. I'm not the one asking to play. They are.

When I'm looking for a game I usually just offer something to get it going. A case in point, there was a pretty good eight ball player in our place about six weeks ago. I told him I'd play 6-5 games and if he lost it'd go 6-4, then 6-3 etc. down to 6-2 then up on me thereafter 7-2, 8-2, etc. He was scared. Why? But the same guy barks and then asks for weight from lesser players. He's a NIT.
I think you are too concerned about 'nits'.....
...there must be players around that want to take a shot at your bankroll.

You aren't offering goods or services....you want to gamble...
...gambling is for gamblers.
If people don't want to try and take my cash, I look elsewhere.

These people don't owe you action.
 
EP, I like the cut of your Gib. You need to post more often ;)

Thanks. I'm not real Internet savvy. I haven't even turned on my laptop in 4 months. But I'll try. This iPhone is pretty easy. Send me some chalk to try and I'll guarantee some story posts. ;-) I gotta few.
 
I think you misunderstand me a bit. The guys asking for weight I'm referring to aren't people who are merely trying to get a fair game. They go into it assuming too much. Either they're assuming they're gonna rob me or assuming I'm a world beater. Either way, my point is don't go barking for a game with someone you've never seen at all and then, when the guy says let's do it, then ask for the seven and the break. Also don't go beat up a kid who's a C- player who you could give the seven out to and still rob him but then chicken out and ask me for the world when a real player shows up.

As for giving weight to someone I don't know: I do it all the time. And I do it with the guys I'm complaining about. Further, I'll adjust if it ain't enough. But these guys ARE THE ONES BARKING. I'm not the one asking to play. They are.

When I'm looking for a game I usually just offer something to get it going. A case in point, there was a pretty good eight ball player in our place about six weeks ago. I told him I'd play 6-5 games and if he lost it'd go 6-4, then 6-3 etc. down to 6-2 then up on me thereafter 7-2, 8-2, etc. He was scared. Why? But the same guy barks and then asks for weight from lesser players. He's a NIT.

Yeah, i know what you mean about the ones that rob weak players and then cry in front of better players. I've just also been frustrated by some better players that cry about heart, but don't go around handing money to players better than they are. Sorta gotta expect the weaker players to ask for weight when they bark, too. I mean, at least i can respect them for trying to make a game. Whether they're going to be a pest about it is another story. Either way, best of luck finding some decent action that isn't more trouble than it's worth. I'm lucky if i get $5 games in the bar i frequent.
 
I think you are too concerned about 'nits'.....
...there must be players around that want to take a shot at your bankroll.

You aren't offering goods or services....you want to gamble...
...gambling is for gamblers.
If people don't want to try and take my cash, I look elsewhere.

These people don't owe you action.

Exactly what part of "they're asking me" do you not understand? I don't care if I get their action or not. I don't need it. I'd just as soon play three ball with my friends and spend the night cussing them out, telling lies, sharing impure thoughts about all the young women in the room and drinking beer. At least my friends can play and still have their testicles intact. These NITS are who want action. The trouble is they don't want it to be true action. They are NITS but ain't got no NUTS (yeah I realize it's a double negative, I just don't give a $#!+). They want my money and want me to give it to them. Then they want to brag about how they robbed someone.
 
Technically, I think nits come in clutches rather than hordes, but I think "pestilence" fits better. Hmmm.... "Pestilence" is already taken as the collective term for politicians. Where is Genghis Khan when you need him?
 
Technically, I think nits come in clutches rather than hordes, but I think "pestilence" fits better. Hmmm.... "Pestilence" is already taken as the collective term for politicians. Where is Genghis Khan when you need him?

He's deader n' the rails on the bar boxes most of these NITS usually play on. You are probably correct. But why so technical? What are you, Bob, a physicist or something? ;-) Sorry sensei, I couldn't resist.
 
Forgive my rant. It's long. I'm frustrated. I've been playing this game for 30 years. I love this game. I love playing for money but I'm one of those rare birds that happens to be an excellent player and yet will still play for fun, not only for money. I don't care, I just want to play. I'll teach a beginner or intermediate player for free if he covers the table time. I play for the sake of the game. My guiding principle in pool is, ala Gelett Burges, "It is in the blood of genius to love play for its own sake, and whether one uses one's skill on thrones or women, swords or pens, gold or fame, the game's the thing."

But lately I've been bombarded with what can only be called "A Mongrel Horde of NITS". Here is just a minuscule sample:

1. A guy comes into our pool room last month and beats up on one of our C- beginners. The kid happens to be a friend of mine and I tell him to quit, the game is no good. The other guy is obviously laying down and trapping my friend. He's so obvious I am able to tell the kid what shot the guy is going to "miss" and where both the cue and object balls are gonna end up. So my friend gets wise, listens to me, and quits $40 down. Cheap lesson right? So I challenge the guy for a measly $20 a game. He automatically asks for the seven and the break and won't play without the spot! Then he says he will call a guy! For $20 a game?!?!? I tell him if he's gotta call a guy for $20 he's got problems and should just take up corn hole instead, but to go ahead and call the guy. It happens to be someone I've beaten to death years ago so I know it ain't gonna happen. Where is the HEART?

2. On four separate occasions in the last month I've had four different players quit on me in the middle of a set. Now, thankfully I got paid. They didn't air me. But what kind of eunuch does it take to just say, "Screw it. I can't win, take my money?" One guy I can almost understand, he had lost one set already and was down 11 to 1 getting a ton of weight and hadn't had a makable shot since the first game (which he won). But the other guys just quit after a few racks. What makes it worse is every one of these guys BARKED AT ME for a game and then begged for a spot. I never asked one of them. I didn't challenge them. But they quit before the game was over. Where's the HEART?

3. The barking leads me to my next example. For a year now scores of guys come into the pool room (or run up to me when I visit other places) and say "You wanna play for some?" Sure I reply. The next words out of their mouths? You guessed it: "What will you give me?" Most have never seen me, don't know me, never heard of me, have no idea if I can make a ball!! WTF? But I'm game and I usually offer the last two in 9 Ball or 9-8 one pocket etc. It's not enough, they run and go ask someone else. I'm not against lesser players getting a spot nor asking for one. I give them all the time. But since when is it acceptable to challenge someone you don't know and then immediately ask for a huge spot? Contrast this with a kid who works at the place where I usually go. I walk in, see him practicing (he's learning) and I say I'll give you 7-2 games in eight ball, I'll shoot one handed. This kid knows me. He knows how I play. He's watched me play one handed for hours. He immediately pulls out a $20 bill and says "Let's go". He loses, pays, says "I'm getting that back from you very soon." He's not a player, but he's got something these other NITS don't: HEART. And I figure the next time he gets that spot he's gonna rob me and I'm gonna be just fine with that. And I won't change the spot, I'll just keep trying to beat him because he earned it.

4. A regular who likes to gamble but fits the profile described in #3 keeps asking for a game. This guy can play. He can run out regularly. He's not helpless. He's a player. Get the idea? But play even? Nooooo! Finally he barks at me enough and I say, "I'll play you even, then we can adjust after a couple sets." He cusses, complains, whines and then finally agrees. We play one set, he loses, unscrews and whines for thirty minutes about needing a spot. Pays me and leaves. Two nights ago he comes back, begs for a game and a spot, gets one from me and then backs out because I wanna play by the game rather than sets. He finally agrees but wants to play too cheap. Eventually he agrees to enough money for me to miss sleep and stay to play. Then the whining begins. First he whines about 10 Ball rules. Then he whines because he supposedly thought the last two was the same as having the nine ball (who doesn't know that??). Then he whines when he fouls on a jump shot and says he didn't hit the cue ball but I show him the OBVIOUS scuff mark on the cue ball caused by his phenolic tip. Lastly, he goes ballistic when I three foul him. I told him in three separate games he was on two fouls and he said ok, and carefully made sure he didn't foul. The last time he made contact but scratched and then swears he has "never heard of any three foul rule" and doesn't believe ANYONE ever plays that way and quits! Then he whines when I tell him he's persona non grata and will never get another game with me because I'm not playing with a whiny NIT who cheats and then needs me to access the WPA web site with my iPhone to prove a rule. Where is the HEART?

5. A road player comes into our place this past Sunday. He's stalking the room and my buddy asks, " You looking for a game?" He says yes in either banks or one pocket. My friend plays neither but I bite. I agree to one hole but he says, nah I want to play banks. I tell him this ain't Kentucky. He laughs and everything appears to be on the way to a game. Banks ain't my thing. I'm barely competent frankly. You won't see me on a road trip to Ohio or Kentucky any time in the foreseeable future. But what the heck. I get my cue, agree to play and go hit a few banks to loosen my arm. The guy backs out. Says he ain't slept in three days and just got back from Tennessee (which ain't far by the way). So I say, we can go cheap, just $20 a game. He gets his girlfriend and puts his tail between his legs and runs. This guy ain't a world beater. He's a low level shortstop but HE'S A ROAD PLAYER about to match up with a guy who hasn't played banks seriously since the Bush administration and wasn't any good then. WTF? Where is the HEART?

6. This is the last one I promise. Two guys have started frequenting our room. They usually have some friends with them. One of them keeps telling his buds how good he is and that he's gonna hustle everyone there eventually. He keeps asking us if we know this phantom world beater and then describes him: yep you guessed it, he's describing himself. Anyway he flashes money to his buds, talks trash. It's all BS. We all know it. Every time we ask him to gamble he's got an excuse. Anyway, I'm going to get a beer and he meets me with his friends in tow and says, "Let's go, five hundred a rack!" I say sorry pal, I only got four hundred on me but if you wanna go for $100 that's fine by me. He gives the typical BS, "That ain't enough." So I go get my best friend there who has a trunk full and he tells the guy that he will play him. Guy says no, he wants me. Ok, my friend will back me. Again, we know he's full of it but it's a matter of principle now. We razz this guy relentlessly and his own friends start in on him. Yet he's still coming in almost every night talking smack and never playing. NO HEART.

When did all these HEARTLESS NITS start coming to pool rooms and where did they come from?

I'm tired of NITS.

Think I'll wait till the movie comes out!
 
EP, I like the cut of your Gib. You need to post more often ;)

PS: I don't really know what a "gib" is but it's fun to say ;)

A "gib" is part of the giblets package that comes with your Christmas turkey. Gravy ain't worth a shit without some gib in it. :smile:
 
The game sure has changed. I played a lot in the 80's. In my hometown poolroom we played a lot of 9 ball ring games. 10 or 20 a man and no one really ever got hurt too bad (we all knew each other and exactly how we played). Anyway, it seemed like we always played 4, 5, 6 sets...sometimes all night long.

When I do play now, which is not often, I always look for the same kind of ring games. I think they are fun and relaxing. Now though, no one EVER plays more than one set before unscrewing in disgust. It seems like everyone except the winner leaves in a big huff. Man, relax and play some more, your turn to win may be next.

To me, it seems like less players today just enjoy the game. I cannot tell you how many bad games I have booked simply because I wanted to play.
 
Exactly what part of "they're asking me" do you not understand? I don't care if I get their action or not. I don't need it. I'd just as soon play three ball with my friends and spend the night cussing them out, telling lies, sharing impure thoughts about all the young women in the room and drinking beer. At least my friends can play and still have their testicles intact. These NITS are who want action. The trouble is they don't want it to be true action. They are NITS but ain't got no NUTS (yeah I realize it's a double negative, I just don't give a $#!+). They want my money and want me to give it to them. Then they want to brag about how they robbed someone.

Well, I think you're getting ready to tilt and go off to them.
Don't lose your temper while negotiating.
I got straightened out on that by a tough road player.

I did make a score with a nit once....'cause I knew his gambling habits from playing poker
in a game he went to regularly.
If he got up money early....he left early....if he got stuck, he'd go off.
So I gave him too much on a snooker table....my friends said I was crazy.
I told them he won't let me go off 'cause he wants a win too badly.

First time I play, he wins the first game, I win the second and he quit.
Next time, he wins first two, I win the third...he quit.
Next time, he won the first three.....and quit.

About the fifth time we played, I made every thing I shot at, and he lost a couple thou.
I beat him only three times in twelve starts....and he's stuck thousands in that game.

A lot of nits can only win small....but they can lose large.
 
Well, I think you're getting ready to tilt and go off to them.
Don't lose your temper while negotiating.
I got straightened out on that by a tough road player.

I did make a score with a nit once....'cause I knew his gambling habits from playing poker
in a game he went to regularly.
If he got up money early....he left early....if he got stuck, he'd go off.
So I gave him too much on a snooker table....my friends said I was crazy.
I told them he won't let me go off 'cause he wants a win too badly.

First time I play, he wins the first game, I win the second and he quit.
Next time, he wins first two, I win the third...he quit.
Next time, he won the first three.....and quit.

About the fifth time we played, I made every thing I shot at, and he lost a couple thou.
I beat him only three times in twelve starts....and he's stuck thousands in that game.

A lot of nits can only win small....but they can lose large.

You make a good point. And I recognize that what you describe happens often. I've won a lot off these guys and others similar over the years. But I miss the days when a guy (sometimes myself) would walk in a room, take a quick look and shout, "Anyone can have the eight for $50 (or more)." I did that the other night and everyone looked at me like I had a bomb strapped around me and was yelling "alahu Akbar" for f**k's sake!!

As I pointed out early in my post, the money don't matter (yeah bad grammar I know, sue me). The game matters. Playing a guy, win or lose, fun or cash, whatever however, then shaking his hand buying each other a couple rounds and talking for hours about pool is what these NITS don't get. I miss it. Where has it gone?

Though the Color of Money is full of it in many places (I still like it though don't you?), there's one scene that captures my point in all this. Newman is playing Grady. Grady is telling road stories. They're buying each other rounds. Two old war horses shooting pool and shooting the $#!+ at the same time. Priceless. Hell, you gotta hang out on AZ now to do that. The pool rooms ain't got anyone who's ever stepped up enough to have stories.

I remember being a kid, hanging out and listening to guys like that. The stories they told were better than any movie or book. It didn't matter if they were true or not! Hell, I didn't care! All I knew was that I wanted to do the same damn thing when I got older. Now I got three guys around me and we pass the same 100 bucks and the same stories around every other night.

I remember being an up and coming local teen player and watching the twenty something hotshot torturing everyone and saying to myself, "I'm gonna whoop (that's redkneck for whip by the way) his cocky @$$ one day!" A spot wasn't on my mind at all. And now, decades after I DID BEAT HIM, I got nobody to have a good game with and then tell about it. Instead all that's around are a bunch of NITS who want a free ride and then go buy meth with it.
 
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