A Pair of Bonus Ball Points

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truefan

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First, I keep seeing references to a "Million-Dollar Prize Fund". But one of the BB players is a good friend and he showed me his BB contract.

Here are the prize amounts: All amounts to be split among team members:

1st place team: $120,000
2nd place team: $60,000
3rd place team: $30,000
4th place team: $30,000
5-8th place: $15,000
Outside top 8: $0

There are also bonuses for Top points, MVP, Top Shot maker, Longest run from break, Most Bonus balls in two categories. Each of these carries a $5,000 prize. So, including bonuses, my calculator says the prize fund is $330,000, not one million. So where is the million-dollar figure coming from?

It also seems that the BB calendar now extends through the Southern Classic in Tunica which includes the Ultimate Ten Ball Championship as well as a BCA Ranking Event. So for everyone on any team that cannot come in the top four at BB has a decision to make. Stay and play BB where you can only win small money or go to Tunica and win large money playing in fields weakened by BB. The idea that the players can go play in other tournaments if they wish is rather silly considering they are competing hard for that bonus money. Take a couple of weeks off and your chances of a bonus go out the window.

I want everything in pool to work. But I do not like the idea that players have to choose between places to work. This just could have been handled so much better. The conflicts are going to soil this whole thing.
 
That's playoff payouts. You're forgetting the 22 week salary of around $800,000. With delays, the players will be getting closer to $1.2 million. As such, it's more than advertised, not less.
 
truefan said:
First, I keep seeing references to a "Million-Dollar Prize Fund". But one of the BB players is a good friend and he showed me his BB contract.



I want everything in pool to work. But I do not like the idea that players have to choose between places to work. This just could have been handled so much better. The conflicts are going to soil this whole thing.
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ya, i work in tech support and have to choose between workin for company A and company B....sucks eh....and if i was a pool player I wouldnt want a gauranteed pay check either, or a chance for something better.

If BB fails first year it aint gonna put all the other promoters out of work...may hurt them a bit this year but thats called doin business.
 
nathandumoulin said:
That's playoff payouts. You're forgetting the 22 week salary of around $800,000. With delays, the players will be getting closer to $1.2 million. As such, it's more than advertised, not less.
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12 teams, 3 players per team. So 36 players. 1.2 million= $916/week before taxes per player. That's the equivalent of a job making $22/hour. I'm sure most of the players will be traveling and staying in hotels/cheap apartment. So that's a pretty big expense as well. $1.2 million is a big numbers, but gets watered down a whole lot over 36 people and 22 weeks.

I'm not saying some might not benefit from this, but none of the players are getting rich with bonus ball. The team that wins it all, all three members will make a grand total of $73,000 before taxes for the year. If their able to play in the same big tournaments they normally do, some might have a good year. But I can see why SVB chose to opt out.
 
truefan said:
First, I keep seeing references to a "Million-Dollar Prize Fund". But one of the BB players is a good friend and he showed me his BB contract.

Here are the prize amounts: All amounts to be split among team members:

1st place team: $120,000
2nd place team: $60,000
3rd place team: $30,000
4th place team: $30,000
5-8th place: $15,000
Outside top 8: $0

There are also bonuses for Top points, MVP, Top Shot maker, Longest run from break, Most Bonus balls in two categories. Each of these carries a $5,000 prize. So, including bonuses, my calculator says the prize fund is $330,000, not one million. So where is the million-dollar figure coming from?

It also seems that the BB calendar now extends through the Southern Classic in Tunica which includes the Ultimate Ten Ball Championship as well as a BCA Ranking Event. So for everyone on any team that cannot come in the top four at BB has a decision to make. Stay and play BB where you can only win small money or go to Tunica and win large money playing in fields weakened by BB. The idea that the players can go play in other tournaments if they wish is rather silly considering they are competing hard for that bonus money. Take a couple of weeks off and your chances of a bonus go out the window.

I want everything in pool to work. But I do not like the idea that players have to choose between places to work. This just could have been handled so much better. The conflicts are going to soil this whole thing.
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What did ur good friend say about BB? Did he think the contract sucks? Does he hate the game? If he thinks its as bad as you do tell him he lives in America and can just quit.
 
cleary said:
12 teams, 3 players per team. So 36 players. 1.2 million= $916/week before taxes per player. That's the equivalent of a job making $22/hour. I'm sure most of the players will be traveling and staying in hotels/cheap apartment. So that's a pretty big expense as well. $1.2 million is a big numbers, but gets watered down a whole lot over 36 people and 22 weeks.

I'm not saying some might not benefit from this, but none of the players are getting rich with bonus ball. The team that wins it all, all three members will make a grand total of $73,000 before taxes for the year. If their able to play in the same big tournaments they normally do, some might have a good year. But I can see why SVB chose to opt out.
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I agree Cleary, i believe this bonus ball is going to benefit the lesser skilled pros, where is they very seldom finish 1-2 in the bigger tournaments (we all know if you cant constitenly finish in the top 3 , you cant make no money) I HATE TO PUT IT THIS WAY, but for players that keep on finishing as also runs in big tournaments, this bonus ball will be best for them, guys like SVB or APPLETON, MIKA or who ever else can earn over 100,000 on the tournament trail, mite just lose money if they play bonus ball and cant get to the big tournaments!
 
I cant see no top player missing the derby, I would bet SVB makes most of his money at the derby (gambling plus tournament, all around) how can anyone expect the top players to miss their biggest pay day.
 
Black-Balled said:
the majority of touring folks at my work get around the same.
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I'm not saying $22/hour is terrible. But when people here "millions", they think players are makin' it rain in the club. But in reality, it breaks down to smaller numbers. And when you have to travel back and forth and possibly be paying for an apartment in your own city and in vegas, the money starts to disappear. Especially after taxes.
 
cleary said:
I'm not saying $22/hour is terrible.
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It's 3 hours per week, not 40. The number is closer to $427/hour if you average out the playoff money and salaries (captains get paid $100 more per week).

Players can use the other 37 hours per week to play in other events, or work another job.
 
cleary said:
12 teams, 3 players per team. So 36 players. 1.2 million= $916/week before taxes per player. That's the equivalent of a job making $22/hour. I'm sure most of the players will be traveling and staying in hotels/cheap apartment. So that's a pretty big expense as well. $1.2 million is a big numbers, but gets watered down a whole lot over 36 people and 22 weeks.

I'm not saying some might not benefit from this, but none of the players are getting rich with bonus ball. The team that wins it all, all three members will make a grand total of $73,000 before taxes for the year. If their able to play in the same big tournaments they normally do, some might have a good year. But I can see why SVB chose to opt out.
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Nathan beat me to this point. His 3 hours/week is probably a low estimate (that sounds like the match time, not the total time). But even with travel, team meetings, league administration, etc. it doesn't seem anywhere close to full time. Call it 20 hours/week and you're at $44/hour. There aren't too many opportunities out there for that sort of steady income from playing pool.
 
nathandumoulin said:
It's 3 hours per week, not 40. The number is closer to $427/hour if you average out the playoff money and salaries (captains get paid $100 more per week).

Players can use the other 37 hours per week to play in other events, or work another job.
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I didn't say there were making $22/hour, it's the equivalent of a job making $22/hour.
 
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