A Purple Five Ball Makes No Sense to Me

If the world made sense, it would be a much better place. Until then, just consider ball color in professional pool like jerseys for professional sports teams.
 
I think it actually may have happened once, but I'm not certain. I have certainly seen it happen on occasion over the years, regardless of which ball set was in use. That said, I don't reckon this will be a difficult transition for the players.

Amusingly, Bob Jewett was watching Allen Hopkins warming up for his first match at the 2021 US Open and, rack after rack, Allen was shooting the five-ball before the four ball. Bob couldn't help himself and approached him, asking him if he realized that the purple ball was the five ball, not the four ball. Allen's answer, of course, was "no".

Of course, Allen is an old timer who had probably never played with, or even seen, a purple five ball before.
I’m certain we have all about the wrong ball before because we didn’t see the correct ball on the table. Or played shape for the wrong ball. Occupational hazard. Lol. It happens.

Thx for your response, always like to hear your opinions and thoughts,

Hope to see you at Mcup, if I’m in America I’ll be there.

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Fatboy 😀😀
 
While I absolutely agree with that if you're using purple is must be on the 4 and 12 balls, I'm just going to say that the "few years" of the pink 4 is actually half a century now, so it's not new or uncommon.

Still just prefer a tweaking of shades for contrast than outright replacement.
Pink 4b has been around FIFTY years??? Don't recall seeing one til mid/late 90's at the earliest.
 
They should do away with the colors altogether and just let the sponsors put their logos on the balls. The blacked out nine ball already looks like a Predator logo.
 
They should do away with the colors altogether and just let the sponsors put their logos on the balls. The blacked out nine ball already looks like a Predator logo.
Hush🤫

Don’t give them any ideas,

God I can really see that happening

The balls will look like NASCARS pretty soon……

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Fatboy
 
What's traditional in pro pool is, more and more, going by the wayside. I'm just not sure it's a problem, although I fully understand why some AZB members feel otherwise.

The switch to Simonis cloth some 40 years ago was bemoaned by some as making the game unrecognizable. Some questioned whether a player should be permitted to break with a different cue. Isn't one supposed to master the game using a single cue, they asked? Then there was Camel colored cloth. Are you kidding? Some seemingly couldn't handle it, for pool, they said, shouldn't look like that. For me, the introduction of the jump cue made rotation games almost unrecognizable. Since when is pool played through the air?

All these points aside, we've always had to adapt to changes in the game and its equipment, and we've always managed. There's no reason to think this will change.

I think we all want the same thing - standardization of the game, its equipment and its rules. I think we'll get there one day, but it may take quite a while.
 
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What's traditional in pro pool is, more and more, going by the wayside. I'm just not sure it's a problem, although I fully understand why some AZB members feel otherwise.

The switch to Simonis cloth some 40 years ago was bemoaned by some as making the game unrecognizable. Some questioned whether a player should be permitted to break with a different cue. Isn't one supposed to mater the game using a single cue, they asked? Then there was Camel colored cloth. Are you kidding? Some seemingly couldn't handle it, for pool, they said, shouldn't look like that. For me, the introduction of the jump cue made rotation games almost unrecognizable. Since when is pool played through the air?

All these points aside, we've always had to adapt to changes in the game and its equipment, and we've always managed. There's no reason to think this will change.

I think we all want the same thing - standardization of the game, its equipment and its rules. I think we'll get there one day, but it may take quite a while.

I don't think the issue some members have is necessarily due to fear or resistance to change, but rather wholly unnecessary change. Change to improve the game or performance in the game is generally accepted and often even embraced. Change for the sake of change or worse, for corporate greed on the other hand, tends to rub folks the wrong way. The purple 5 ball is a great example of this. What is the point of making an existing purple ball not purple and using that color for a different one?
 
I don't think the issue some members have is necessarily due to fear or resistance to change, but rather wholly unnecessary change. Change to improve the game or performance in the game is generally accepted and often even embraced. Change for the sake of change or worse, for corporate greed on the other hand, tends to rub folks the wrong way. The purple 5 ball is a great example of this. What is the point of making an existing purple ball not purple and using that color for a different one?
Nice post. Points are well taken.
 
What's traditional in pro pool is, more and more, going by the wayside. I'm just not sure it's a problem, although I fully understand why some AZB members feel otherwise.

The switch to Simonis cloth some 40 years ago was bemoaned by some as making the game unrecognizable. Some questioned whether a player should be permitted to break with a different cue. Isn't one supposed to mater the game using a single cue, they asked? Then there was Camel colored cloth. Are you kidding? Some seemingly couldn't handle it, for pool, they said, shouldn't look like that. For me, the introduction of the jump cue made rotation games almost unrecognizable. Since when is pool played through the air?

All these points aside, we've always had to adapt to changes in the game and its equipment, and we've always managed. There's no reason to think this will change.

I think we all want the same thing - standardization of the game, its equipment and its rules. I think we'll get there one day, but it may take quite a while.
I’m a big fan of tradition

Living is the past is no good either.

But the colors of the balls is something that shouldn’t be changed. CF shafts, cloth, color of cloth, pocket dimensions, table sizes, lighting, ball materials have changed and that’s all ok.

But don’t mess with the colors of the balls.

The American flag has changed. But the colors did NOT!!!!

Stepping off his soap box
Fatboy
 
What's traditional in pro pool is, more and more, going by the wayside. I'm just not sure it's a problem, although I fully understand why some AZB members feel otherwise.

The switch to Simonis cloth some 40 years ago was bemoaned by some as making the game unrecognizable. Some questioned whether a player should be permitted to break with a different cue. Isn't one supposed to mater the game using a single cue, they asked? Then there was Camel colored cloth. Are you kidding? Some seemingly couldn't handle it, for pool, they said, shouldn't look like that. For me, the introduction of the jump cue made rotation games almost unrecognizable. Since when is pool played through the air?

All these points aside, we've always had to adapt to changes in the game and its equipment, and we've always managed. There's no reason to think this will change.

I think we all want the same thing - standardization of the game, its equipment and its rules. I think we'll get there one day, but it may take quite a while.
The thing is, for the most part, there was a reason and argument for those changes, even if it wasn't our preference.

The same can be said for changing a certain numbered balls to a different color, like say changing the seven ball from maroon to brown. Again, it may not be our preference, but at least there is some reasoning there.

There is no good reason to take a long existing historical color from one numbered ball, and move it over to a different numbered ball instead, like moving the color purple from the four ball to the five ball. It isn't logical. It isn't productive. It isn't necessary. There simply is no good reason for it at all. It makes the game tough to follow while watching, and it shouldn't be a damn effort to watch pool. It makes the game tougher to play when you constantly have to be double checking colors and numbers and always trying to think about which ball is which instead of just being able to play. It shouldn't be a damn effort of that kind to play pool.

Changing a long standing historical color from the numbered ball it has always been on in everybody's lifetime, over to a different numbered ball, comes with a lot of negatives, zero positives, there simply is no good reason for it whatsoever, and as such it is unacceptable.
 
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I don't think the issue some members have is necessarily due to fear or resistance to change, but rather wholly unnecessary change. Change to improve the game or performance in the game is generally accepted and often even embraced. Change for the sake of change or worse, for corporate greed on the other hand, tends to rub folks the wrong way. The purple 5 ball is a great example of this. What is the point of making an existing purple ball not purple and using that color for a different one?
This is exactly right, didn't see this until I posted my reply above saying essentially the same thing, and same thing I've been saying for a while. It is a wholly unnecessary change where there is no good reason for it and it comes with no benefits and lots of drawbacks and so it is simply unacceptable.
 
In this day and age, it wouldn't surprise me if the 5 ball wanted to identify as purple. So despite all the common sense of keeping the traditional colors that the overwhelming majority of players favor, the "feelings" of the 5 ball take precedence over any and all objections.
 
In this day and age, it wouldn't surprise me if the 5 ball wanted to identify as purple. So despite all the common sense of keeping the traditional colors that the overwhelming majority of players favor, the "feelings" of the 5 ball take precedence over any and all objections.
The five ball is saying that he doesn't want to steal somebody else's identity (that being the four ball's identity, and yes I heard him say it), nor would society be ok if the five wanted to steal the four's identity because identity theft is bad, mkay.

Now if the five wants to "identify" as pink, or some other color that isn't historical identity theft, then I suspect even if people don't really like or prefer that change they probably for the most part would be willing to accept it. But they aren't going to accept identity theft, and the five needs to give the four his purple identity back. This might even be a case of some purple cultural appropriation right here.

Stop the identity theft and cultural appropriation. The public and number four balls everywhere won't stand for it. Make the four ball purple again.
 
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In this day and age, it wouldn't surprise me if the 5 ball wanted to identify as purple. So despite all the common sense of keeping the traditional colors that the overwhelming majority of players favor, the "feelings" of the 5 ball take precedence over any and all objections.
I can see it now

A “Pride” set of rainbow balls. That’s a lock!!🌈🌈🌈

And a new game, where you can’t shoot the wrong ball and everyone wins…..watch and see. Coming to a pool room near you…..
 
Thats grey brother. Get your eyes checked. It was Brunswick that pushed gold cloth back when all the post-'Hustler' rooms were opening. They didn't want their lily-white rec centers to remotely look like a poolhall. Had nothing to do with seeing the balls better.

Grey or gold it doesn't really matter, it's the light saturation of the color that makes the balls stand out. gold, light grey, light blue all could work.
 
I play at a room occasionally that has a stream table with tv balls and have to go visually check the number on the ball to make certain if I wanna get shape on that ball or not...
Sounds about like English Ricky in the PLO game, getting up to check if that turn face card is a jack or a queen; and you know?
I’ve known that bastard for 6+years. I still don’t honestly know the mans name is Ricky or Ritchie...
And I don’t want to know.

Eddie
 
I don't care what color balls they use, It would just be nice to show a graphic at the bottom of the screen that shows which is which.
Could we have some hot hot ring girls bring the balls out?
Smart ones?
Preferably start with a couple those Russians I noticed in that sports thing they had on TV a couple few weeks back?
If that just isn’t possible cuz of WW3 or anything?
If not there are more than a couple brothers over in NPR who know quite a bit...
about sexy pictures of the day n’such seek n jerk.

Eddie
 
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