A Sincere Apology to AZB Members.

bigshooter said:
I can only focus on your avatar and the word "nipple"
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I assume anyone with a female in their avatar is a female. In this case, one looking to tease with vague innuendos. If you present yourself as a female, you should not expect anything else.

I also recall a YouTube video link a while ago that showed Luxury was a young lady, making some type of shot on her table (I don't recall the shot, sorry).


PaulieB said:
I'm offended by this apology. Please make a new post apologizing for it.
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Actually we need an, "Apology for the apology", thread *and* a poll. Then we need a follow up poll by another member on the first poll, and a random thread about the whole situation being the cause of the Mayan apocalypse.

Only, of course, if you want this done correctly.




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Ghosst said:
Actually we need an, "Apology for the apology", thread *and* a poll. Then we need a follow up poll by another member on the first poll, and a random thread about the whole situation being the cause of the Mayan apocalypse.
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What we really need is to get off the keyboards and spend more time on the pool table :rolleyes:. Life is short and it's getting away from us as we type :embarrassed2:!!!

Maniac (yes, even from me :sorry:)
 
Maniac said:
What we really need is to get off the keyboards and spend more time on the pool table.
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We should start a poll. Seriously. Otherwise my delaminated tip is going to fix itself and then I'll have to leave my computer.
 
O.K. so I looked up the thread and read it ...

If I read it correctly, the cowboy (according to you) caromed his cue ball off one of his object balls and scratched on purpose giving you BIH in the kitchen.

I assume that you were playing 8-ball and that the 6-ball was your only ball left on the table and it was in the kitchen. Furthermore, I assume that the 6-ball wasn't spotted and you had to kick at it (normal for the cowboy bar down the street from me).

So, instead you corner hooked the cue ball by hand and then used your cue to directly shoot the 6-ball in without touching the cue ball first?

In bar pool (that I've played) they play foul on all balls. Plus, (even if you were playing cue ball fouls only) I would think it would also be a foul if you didn't hit the cue ball first with the tip of your cue. So, why didn't said cowboy just call a foul on you and pick up the cue ball and take his shot from anywhere in the kitchen like you were supposed to do (instead of leaving himself corner hooked)?

What am I missing?
 
Ghosst said:
I assume anyone with a female in their avatar is a female. In this case, one looking to tease with vague innuendos. If you present yourself as a female, you should not expect anything else.

I also recall a YouTube video link a while ago that showed Luxury was a young lady, making some type of shot on her table (I don't recall the shot, sorry).
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For the past 5 years I have had a youtube link in my signature of me shooting in different trick shot videos. Have never tried to pose as a young lady. If you saw my video and thought that then I'm very flattered being a six foot 190 lb 38 year old man with short hair. :)
 
Luxury said:
For the past 5 years I have had a youtube link in my signature of me shooting in different trick shot videos. Have never tried to pose as a young lady. If you saw my video and thought that then I'm very flattered being a six foot 190 lb 38 year old man with short hair. :)
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There's a girl in your avatar, what else would come to my mind? :D

Oh, it wasn't that video either, it was a shorter brunette with long curly hair. The only reason I remembered it was that I was shocked a girl was posting here.

Anyway sweetie, good shooting.
 
WoodyJ said:
If I read it correctly, the cowboy (according to you) caromed his cue ball off one of his object balls and scratched on purpose giving you BIH in the kitchen.

I assume that you were playing 8-ball and that the 6-ball was your only ball left on the table and it was in the kitchen. Furthermore, I assume that the 6-ball wasn't spotted and you had to kick at it (normal for the cowboy bar down the street from me).

So, instead you corner hooked the cue ball by hand and then used your cue to directly shoot the 6-ball in without touching the cue ball first?

In bar pool (that I've played) they play foul on all balls. Plus, (even if you were playing cue ball fouls only) I would think it would also be a foul if you didn't hit the cue ball first with the tip of your cue. So, why didn't said cowboy just call a foul on you and pick up the cue ball and take his shot from anywhere in the kitchen like you were supposed to do (instead of leaving himself corner hooked)?

What am I missing?
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I don't know where bars get their rules but I assume they are merely a subset of the standardized rules for pool in general. Regardless of the particular game and the variations of rules for a specific game .... in the general rules, isn't unsportsmanlike conduct simply loss of game?

BTW I didn't see the original post, I don't know what happened, I only read this post's interpretation of it, and I've never played pool in a bar in my life, so I have no idea where the rules come from. This was the thought I came away with after reading this post.
 
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WoodyJ said:
If I read it correctly, the cowboy (according to you) caromed his cue ball off one of his object balls and scratched on purpose giving you BIH in the kitchen.

I assume that you were playing 8-ball and that the 6-ball was your only ball left on the table and it was in the kitchen. Furthermore, I assume that the 6-ball wasn't spotted and you had to kick at it (normal for the cowboy bar down the street from me).

So, instead you corner hooked the cue ball by hand and then used your cue to directly shoot the 6-ball in without touching the cue ball first?

In bar pool (that I've played) they play foul on all balls. Plus, (even if you were playing cue ball fouls only) I would think it would also be a foul if you didn't hit the cue ball first with the tip of your cue. So, why didn't said cowboy just call a foul on you and pick up the cue ball and take his shot from anywhere in the kitchen like you were supposed to do (instead of leaving himself corner hooked)?

What am I missing?
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In the "cowboy's" bar rules, there was NO ball-in-hand fouls, so essentially, he had to shoot the cueball from where bigshooter placed it. He also just wanted him to shut his barking up about playing a game with him.

I think a LOT of people misinterpreted the "spirit" of the move in which bigshooter used in the game scenario of his other thread. It was more of a tongue-in-cheek type of move to basically show the cowboy how ridiculous a NO BIH game can get. I mean typically, with those rules, you could just always shoot the cueball to a position on the table where your opponent has no decent shot, whether you hit a ball or rail (or anything for that matter). If you have to shoot the cueball from where it lies, both players could spend a lot of innings just pushing the cueball around to a particular spot on the table where there is no decent shot. This isn't pool as it was intended to be played.

I personally got a chuckle from his ingenuity.

Maniac (looks first for the humor in anything posted on this forum)
 
3andstop said:
I don't know where bars get their rules but I assume they are merely a subset of the standardized rules for pool in general. Regardless of the particular game and the variations of rules for a specific game .... in the general rules, isn't unsportsmanlike conduct simply loss of game?
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For the most part, bar rules, at least as far as my experiences have shown, can change from one bar to another, some seemingly being made up on-the-fly. To refer to them as "a subset of the standardized rules" is a stretch, imo. Sometimes playing a bar patron a game of pool in his "home" bar is like trying to play pool with a 10-year old kid. You never know what's going to come up next, but you can be sure that it's going to be to HIS advantage.

If you're going to bring "unsportsmanlike conduct" penalties into a game of pool in a bar using "bar rules", then you might as well not even consider playing the game at all.

Maniac
 
Ghosst said:
There's a girl in your avatar, what else would come to my mind? :D

Oh, it wasn't that video either, it was a shorter brunette with long curly hair. The only reason I remembered it was that I was shocked a girl was posting here.

Anyway sweetie, good shooting.
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Well you are confused it seems about the video but thanks anyway ya hermaphrodite.
 
Luxury said:
Well you are confused it seems about the video but thanks anyway ya hermaphrodite.
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No no ... remember, Skillzelite is going to beat me up because I'm an old, short, fat, hairy man with a long white beard that I use to soak up my beer with because I can't handle my sippy cup.

Sheesh ... you think my avatar would have spelled that out.

Ohh, before I die of old age, can you say the "N" word again. When you get to be my age, you need all the help keeping your heart pumping as you can get.
 
Ghosst said:
No no ... remember, Skillzelite is going to beat me up because I'm an old, short, fat, hairy man with a long white beard that I use to soak up my beer with because I can't handle my sippy cup.

Sheesh ... you think my avatar would have spelled that out.

Ohh, before I die of old age, can you say the "N" word again. When you get to be my age, you need all the help keeping your heart pumping as you can get.
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I got this one, Lux!!!

NIPPLE, NIPPLE, NIPPLE!!!

Maniac (hope ya got yer jollies, Ghosst)
 
Maniac said:
NIPPLE, NIPPLE, NIPPLE!!!
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I feel like I'm only 104 again, yay!





PS Maniac: I'm disappointed you didn't catch my delaminated tip thread. There's a picture in it just for giggles over some recent posts.
 
Can someone link me this thread or PM me the gist of it? Sounds entertaining.
 
ddadams said:
Can someone link me this thread or PM me the gist of it? Sounds entertaining.
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I guess the thread's been deleted by the moderators. I couldn't find it anywhere.

Did it become uncivil on that thread? I didn't see anything out-of-line when I was keeping tabs on it.

Maniac
 
I don't recall exactly what we discussing, cell-phones and texting I think. Skillz came in with, "I'm 19 and can kick any oldsmobile's butt while I listen to gangsta rap", comments. We just laughed, he got mad. Standard internet e-peen drivel.

Anyways ... back to apology poll! We need a poll on whether or not we need a poll to finalize the apology. I vote, YES!
 
So is the story below what you are apologizing for?


Originally Posted by bigshooter
So I am in a little country bar and a guy keeps wanting to play 8 ball with me.
I had no interest in playing. I was just visiting with a friend and I do not play bar rules, cue ball in kitchen, etc. but the guy keeps hounding me.

So I finally agree just to shut him up. I try to talk him into ball in hand but that was a no go. There is no money involved, he just wanted to say he beat me.

So I am down to the six ball and its in the kitchen. He hits the cue ball off his ball and scratches on purpose, it's blatant and obvious and then he starts the over acting routine " OH MAN... I scratched, dang it..." blah, blah, blah.

So I take the cue ball and place it in the in the kitchen in the jaws of the pocket badly corner hooked. Then I shoot my six ball with my cue straight down into the corner and say "your shot" so now he is pissed and starts ranting about "chickensh** pool" and me cheating etc. I told him if it were ball in hand I wouldn't be able to do that and the only difference between him and i is that i don't act like screwing him is an accident.

He tries to kick at his ball a million miles per hour and the cue ball rolls right up to the 8 for a short, straight in shot for me to win.

He said he would never play me again then went around the room muttering to everyone how "the big pool player" is nothing but a cheat.

I am still laughing.


bigshooter said:
I recently posted a thread in which I described how I got the better of a guy in a pool game by using a questionable maneuver. (Bar Rules=Angry Cowboy)
I got a harsh response by many members that i did not expect. My intent was not to embarrass the guy but to teach him a lesson about how his own rules being used against him.

The way I handled it was wrong but I truly meant no harm.

For the record I go out of my way to teach people how to play and become better. I coach a few low level APA guys for no charge. I've never turned away someone with a desire to learn.
When I play a lower level player I take low percentage shots to help keep it close and encourage them as much as possible.
I feel that I have been a good ambassador for our sport. I had a slip of judgement.
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OK, now that I read it again you did make a big mistake. The mistake wasn't that you tried to teach him a lesson after he cheated, it's just how you did it. You could have had fun with the guy and you could have played an old one pocket "take a foul" move and placed the CB in the kitchen about 1/4" off the end rail and pushed the CB up tight against the rail with your cue tip and pretended like you were trying to kick. That would be subtle. What you did was throttle him into oblivion. You pulled a move that gave him no chance. Take a baby's milk bottle and watch them go to kicking and hollering and tearing up the little baby bed...he's got the blues..(Albert King). Well you gave County Boy the blues. I would have had him laughing and buying beers..

You pulled a very classic "in your face cowboy" move.

You enjoyed it and didn't get your asss kicked so no foul in my book..

You definitely don't need to apologize to the folks on this chat board.
 
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