A tale of World Champions: Dan Louie's shot against Shane Van Boening

[cuetable]

US BAR TABLE CHAMPIONSHIPS

If that's the case, I have something might be of interest to you:

There is a bar table version of CueTable. We haven't brought it onto AZ yet since we are still checking the operation of 9 ft table at the moment.

It was designed carefully using real measurements of a 7 ft regulation table. It has a playing surface of 40" x 80" with the same sized pockets as found on a 9 ft pool table. For comparative studies, one can switch a layout on a 7ft table to one on a 9ft table by changing the URL header from http://CueTable.com/B/ to http://CueTable.com/P/ and vice versa.

Here is a link to your layout on a bar table, I moved the 9 ball up for you:

http://CueTable.com/B/?@4BOwY4CGfA3...kKnU4kIrk4kHMx4kFiI4kEDR4kByd4kBJd4kAcg4kAcg@


The following is a project we did with Corey Dueul as the first use of the software, he ran 15 balls in 10 shots including the break, let's hope this works (9 pages):

http://CueTable.com/B/?@1AYJq2BMBs3...ht2kQbe3kDen3kFCh3kAWl4kBlMzc2qQtFShot_10&ZZ@

 

[TheOne]

My first thoughts where balls must have been closer together, and maybe the swerve wasnt full ball. But yes fine shot, if he had nothing else and it was lined up good.

 

[bignasty]

fact........

just got off the phone with shane, he said the 9 was hidden and there was NO ez safe! he jacked up a lil turned the ball and played the masse combo bank! the 2 stripes were NOT froze! he made an unreal shot! shane said" it was 1 of the best shots i had ever seen!" and all i had to say was "do you remember playin dan louie in the bar table championships" he said "yeah" i said "did he do some masse shot" shane said "yeah it was a masse combo bank" as he laughed! "it was 1 of the best shots ive ever seen!" so the layout might be a bit off, but the shot DID go down like that!

 

[Handsumm]

just got off the phone with shane, he said the 9 was hidden and there was NO ez safe! he jacked up a lil turned the ball and played the masse combo bank! the 2 stripes were NOT froze! he made an unreal shot! shane said" it was 1 of the best shots i had ever seen!" and all i had to say was "do you remember playin dan louie in the bar table championships" he said "yeah" i said "did he do some masse shot" shane said "yeah it was a masse combo bank" as he laughed! "it was 1 of the best shots ive ever seen!" so the layout might be a bit off, but the shot DID go down like that!

THANK YOU!

There you go folks. From the horses (or World Champion's) grill.

 

[Snapshot9]

No kidding!

The 10 ball will not go past the 13 on its way to the lower left corner.

 

[Steve Lipsky]

THANK YOU!

There you go folks. From the horses (or World Champion's) grill.

If someone speaks to Shane again, it would help if he describes the angle of the cue. Was it a full 90 degrees, or significantly less?

Is this a call-shot tournament? If so, was it clearly a 2-way shot that he never intended to make?

Did the shot require a near-perfect hit on the first object ball, or were the balls so close that he basically just had to hit the first object ball anywhere?

 

[Black-Balled]

The 10 ball will not go past the 13 on its way to the lower left corner.

You will note, it has been said more than once that the picture is not an exact representation of the situation. Further, SVB attests that the shot occured.

 

[shamadam]

Allright fellas, heres my 2 cents. Who give a flying hoot about the technicalities. The man called and made a masse, combo bank shot. I think that is the main point here. Were still trying to nitpick a shot that has already been made legitimately. Cant we just say "Wow, great shot!" and go on to something else? BTW Belmicah thanks for the post. I wish we just had the youtube video link. LOL.

 

[PROG8R]

Am I the only person here that has had that very same shot pulled off against them in an APA match?
Of course they had no intention at all of pulling that off.

 

[Rarelymisses]

I can see why many would question the greatness of such a shot, but those are the ones who haven't seen Dan Louie at the height of his game. Louie has concentration that is rare. Put that together with sound fundamentals, a great stroke, and a brilliant mind , and watch out !

 

[Handsumm]

If someone speaks to Shane again, it would help if he describes the angle of the cue. Was it a full 90 degrees, or significantly less?

Is this a call-shot tournament? If so, was it clearly a 2-way shot that he never intended to make?

Did the shot require a near-perfect hit on the first object ball, or were the balls so close that he basically just had to hit the first object ball anywhere?

A full 90 degrees? He only needed to curve the cueball around 3/4 of a ball. He didn't need a damn boomerang shot.

You really sound like a fool now. First you said it was 1 in a billion, couldn't generate enough speed, then you said impossible and can't work, the balls were frozen, it must've been a slight jump, If so, was it clearly a 2-way shot that he never intended to make etc, etc.

Then, when verified by Shane himself, you still try to knock it.

Look, it was a great shot. A PLANNED, CALLED, EXECUTED great shot.

And yes, to the other poster, the ball CLEARLY goes into the lower left corner.

 

[Steve Lipsky]

A full 90 degrees? He only needed to curve the cueball around 3/4 of a ball. He didn't need a damn boomerang shot.

You really sound like a fool now. First you said it was 1 in a billion, couldn't generate enough speed, then you said impossible and can't work, the balls were frozen, it must've been a slight jump, If so, was it clearly a 2-way shot that he never intended to make etc, etc.

Then, when verified by Shane himself, you still try to knock it.

Look, it was a great shot. A PLANNED, CALLED, EXECUTED great shot.

And yes, to the other poster, the ball CLEARLY goes into the lower left corner.

Let's just agree to disagree on the fact that I feel the shot he made looked nothing like what you diagrammed. I stand by my assertion that the shot you diagrammed, played like how you suggested, would not go one time in a billion.

I think it was probably a slight swerve, which turns this into simply a stellar shot, one that someone of Mr. Louie's stature would probably make 1 time in 5.

The fact that Dan Louie is a tremendous player, as someone else pointed out, is exactly why I know without seeing the original layout that it looked quite different than what you have presented.

And I could be wrong, but I think to curve a cueball around 3/4 of an object ball about 2 feet away, you have to be jacked up pretty good. Doing so, according to your diagram, would have the second object ball barely make it off the first rail.

If the lower left hand side of the table were, say, on a 2 foot downward slant, I'd say the shot you have diagrammed becomes possible.

- Steve

 

[Handsumm]

Let's just agree to disagree on the fact that I feel the shot he made looked nothing like what you diagrammed. I stand by my assertion that the shot you diagrammed, played like how you suggested, would not go one time in a billion.

I think it was probably a slight swerve, which turns this into simply a stellar shot, one that someone of Mr. Louie's stature would probably make 1 time in 5.

The fact that Dan Louie is a tremendous player, as someone else pointed out, is exactly why I know without seeing the original layout that it looked quite different than what you have presented.

And I could be wrong, but I think to curve a cueball around 3/4 of an object ball about 2 feet away, you have to be jacked up pretty good. Doing so, according to your diagram, would have the second object ball barely make it off the first rail.

If the lower left hand side of the table were, say, on a 2 foot downward slant, I'd say the shot you have diagrammed becomes possible.

- Steve

Yeah, you are. You need no more than 35-40 degrees, not 90 (that's ridiculous). Also, you do not have to hit this shot very hard, in fact, to get the necessary action on the cueball, you can't.

Guess you had to be there.

 

[Steve Lipsky]

Yeah, you are. You need no more than 35-40 degrees, not 90 (that's ridiculous). Also, you do not have to hit this shot very hard, in fact, to get the necessary action on the cueball, you can't.

Guess you had to be there.

Well, whatever he played, I'm sure it was a great shot. I'm definitely not arguing that.

 

[Handsumm]

Well, whatever he played, I'm sure it was a great shot. I'm definitely not arguing that.

It sure was. I really wish Shane would come on here personally and describe or diagram the shot more accurately. I have a pretty good memory usually about shot descriptions and layouts, but as I said earlier, I was like 12 feet away with people walking in front of me and such.

 

[Ummagumma]

I asked Dan about this shot. He said it was a half masse shot. I asked why he went for a shot like that and he replied that he had no other shot and there was no viable safety. He had go to for it -- if not, then SVB would win the game. He also did state that these were on 7' bar tables and the felt was very fast, which might explain how a shot like that was made. One hell of a shot, though.

I would have asked him to lay out the balls and show me the shot, but he was playing 1P at the time.

 

[Handsumm]

I asked Dan about this shot. He said it was a half masse shot. I asked why he went for a shot like that and he replied that he had no other shot and there was no viable safety. He had go to for it -- if not, then SVB would win the game. He also did state that these were on 7' bar tables and the felt was very fast, which might explain how a shot like that was made. One hell of a shot, though.

I would have asked him to lay out the balls and show me the shot, but he was playing 1P at the time.

You up there in Seattle? Tell Danny Micah says hello.

 

[punter]

I have to agree with Steve. I mean, even a kick/combo/bank would be more believable. You just couldn't get enough power on the balls with the masse.

 

[Handsumm]

I have to agree with Steve. I mean, even a kick/combo/bank would be more believable. You just couldn't get enough power on the balls with the masse.

You came a little late on the scene bro. Both Shane and Dan Louie verified the shot.

It was a slight masse to combination bank. He also got good shape for the runout.

 

[punter]

Sorry, I'm late, I had a life I was living, I think..... Anyway, bro, pal, maybe your diagram was a little off.