Ability to "play well" vs. Ability to "compete well" (Long).

Fear however causes physiological changes in the brain and body and negating these is a real challenge, depending on the severity they may only be treatable with drugs. These reactions to situations are learned at an early age and cause the brain to release chemicals that cause physical changes to muscle control and thought processes.
 
Except in pool, a lot of them went to the bathroom not to pee but to load up like rock stars.

I don't think you have to load up like a rock star to use substance as a calming effect. I understand the prevailing wisdom is that playing 100% sober is the way to go. That's our PC world for you. Maybe for a highly trained athlete this is true. I personally find a shot or even two (I'm a pretty big boy) of whiskey before a particularly tense match can help with the jitters and allow you to lose just enough inhibition to hit like you're practicing and get rolling. Playing drunk however is another animal and it's a fine line.
 
Confidence is made up of a number of elements.

First: it's just having been there before. (Too many guys have too many excuses for not getting in the box, whether it's gambling one-on-one, or leagues, or tournaments.) You can't just step into the ring for the first or second time and perform. But beyond that, it's just getting used to being in the arena.

Second, and more fundamentally, confidence springs directly from a solid PSR. This one is tough because even if you think you have a good PSR... you probably don't or you'd be on the pro circuit. What often happens between the practice table (where you may be playing well) and the match table (where you end up playing like do-do) is that you some how alter something in the PSR and don't notice or haven't truly figured out your bestest PSR.

Third, much of the game is memory based and if you've been falling asleep during class (that would be your practice time) you're not going to remember the specific speeds and spins to get optimal results for any given shot.

Lastly, in practice it is all to easy to fall into the trap of shooting off loose balls, easy banks, and laying up for wide open position. In competition your opponent and the table are not going to be so kind. It is more likely that you are going to have to "come with it," at least to get rolling, with a long tough shot off the rail, a back cut, thread-the-needle position, or an off-angle bank -- you know, all that stuff you weren't practicing.

I get all the "mental" stuff people are always talking about, but there are some elementary reasons why we fail too. The problem is that even though the reasons are elementary, they are not so easy nuts to crack. All we can do is keep trying to crack 'em.

Lou Figueroa
 
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Pressure is just a figment of your imagination, in reality it does not exist, it is a non entity.

I'm not sure pressure is a non-entity, but I do think it is relative. Before I really knew how to shoot or how hard the game is I played in the bars and entered some $5 entry bar tournements. I don't know who it was that came in and laughed at us one day. We thought that lour evel of competition was putting pressure on us. He told us pressure is writing a rubber check for $100 and gambling all night so you can cover the check, pay your rent, and feed your family. When ever I get nervous in league or in a friendly tournement, I try to remember that moment from almost 25 years ago in Va. Beach. Sometimes it even helps a little....
Karl
 
I'm not sure pressure is a non-entity, but I do think it is relative. Before I really knew how to shoot or how hard the game is I played in the bars and entered some $5 entry bar tournements. I don't know who it was that came in and laughed at us one day. We thought that lour evel of competition was putting pressure on us. He told us pressure is writing a rubber check for $100 and gambling all night so you can cover the check, pay your rent, and feed your family. When ever I get nervous in league or in a friendly tournement, I try to remember that moment from almost 25 years ago in Va. Beach. Sometimes it even helps a little....
Karl

Like all emotions it is a non entity because it is an internal feeling, it is not a physical force or tactile in any way, it is a self invented figment. If you can find a way to make your mind fathom this you have beaten the demons :)
 
Guilty..long story short..I'm playing a race to five an down two..my buddy comes up to me,an asks what are you doing..I reply drinking beer an hitting the balls..he smiply said you've never played me like that..I came back to the hill..got of line on my second to last ball..now I had to bank the six cross sides an go three rails for shape..but the eight was in the path an could be droped in the corner coming out of the shot..I fired it.made the shot,bumped the eight slightly..had to jack up over the eight for my last shot..no big deal..I've made the shot to the side thousands of time..nippled the shot..lost.needless to say I was about to have a Earl moment..when my buddy jumps up an yells....he dogged it!!!!..thank god for friends.
You guys have a good week.
 
Take Van Boening playing Bustamante for example. They are short races so its a flip, but if they were to play a match where there is a lot more pressure shane has the best of it because he's been in a lot more high pressure situations.

Um...no, try again
 
For most people it becomes frustrating when the way they practice isn't comparable to the way they compete.

I have been doing some serious contemplation regarding this and have had some epiphanies regarding this.

It is easy to say, it is mental. We all get nerves when the pressure is on and can't play as well as when there is no pressure. That begs the question, what causes nerves? What can we do to overcome nerves and change our competitive mindset?

The inconsistency can become frustrating enough to want to quit the game.

I had placed eighth or twelfth in the Hard Times first Sunday of the month tournament back in November, (didn't play it in December), and had to forfeit out without losing in the loser's bracket, then last Sunday I played horribly and doubled out.

However, I came to a realization after playing in it this last Sunday. There was a physical difference between how I was practicing and playing in non-pressure situations and how I had played that tournament. I was pulling up, I know better than to pull up right after the shot and I rarely do it in non-pressure situations, but I finally realized exactly what I was doing wrong when I was missing.

This at first glance has little to do with mindset, but it is all about mindset.

the other thing you hear about the people who "compete well" is that they have confidence in their ability.

How do you get confidence?

My thought was always that to be confident you had to have success. So while I could play confidently in practice, I couldn't play confidently in competition because of that inability to have consistent success in competition.

That isn't true. I proved that to myself yesterday. Even with the limited success that I have had, the success has always come after getting lucky enough to win the first couple of matches where I have the "Tourney Jitters".

Yesterday I played in the first Saturday Ten Ball tourney that recently was started at OnCue billiards in San Diego. There was a tough field, I placed third. I really only lost to Louis Ulrich and I again didn't play my game when I played him. That helped me with the realizations that I'm about to relate here.

My first match I got lucky, I drew a B player and was able to play like relative crap and still win. My second match I got down 3 to nothing against an A- player and then I made the realization that I wasn't playing confidently.

I knew not to pull up on the shots anymore, but I was tentative on all of the shots I was taking. I wasn't trusting that I was making the right decisions or that I was aiming correctly, etc.

I consciously "decided" to play confidently, it was a TRULY conscious choice, everything changed. I played perfectly the next three racks and tied it up, then I ran out to the seven and should've gotten out but I had to use a bridge on the seven ball and accidentally hit the CB early and then hit it again making the seven and giving my opponent BIH on the eight, nine, ten.

The next rack I ran out to the six and knew I should've used outside to get on the seven, but thought I could use just follow to avoid scratching in the side. I had again gotten a little tentative and ended up hitting the seven and missing the cross bank.

this began my foray into the loser's bracket. Two of these matches cemented what I had discovered about the conscious choice to maintain the correct mindset. The first was my very next match against a VERY tough player named Fach, who's also a very good cuemaker.

He didn't like playing with the red circle CB and preferred to use the measle ball. He came into the match stating that I had gotten lucky because he couldn't play well with the red circle cueball. He had "chosen" to put himself into a negative mindset and lost the match before it even began.

The second one was when I was playing for third place against another really good player named Scott White. On a couple of occasions he ended up leaving himself directly on the rail and he visibly became upset saying @#$Damn on one of the occasions, as soon as he reacted that way, I knew he had already missed the shot before he even got down on it.

This cost him two games and we had gone hill-hill. His choice of reaction instead of treating every shot on the table the same cost him third place.

I still only played to about 80% of my potential but I placed third in a tough field. The second place match was against Louis Ulrich and while even playing at my top speed, I wouldn't necessarily be the favorite, I didn't play close to that.

I even missed a BIH, although I still don't know how that ball rattled out.

It wasn't solely these last few tournaments that helped me come to the conclusion that playing confidently is a conscious choice, it has been a life long conglomeration of experiences.

When I was really young and first started playing seriously, I was finishing third or better in practically every tournament that I played in and I could compete for money and play well, even though I didn't have as high of an ability to "play well" as I do now. Then I had some relationship issues that I blamed for the problems with my game.

I've traveled for work and in some places I have played well and others not, and I realized that I was basing my confidence level on how the people who were watching or who I was playing against expected me to play. In the places they expected me to not play as well, I wasn't and in the places that they thought I was a road player, I competed better.

Even in the same town but in different pool halls I competed differently.

For instance, when I competed with Joey A, I lost a set and had to pay for dinner, but then over at corner pocket, I broke even on sets in nineball and tenball playing against Jamie Ferrell.

The thing I've now realized is that you can't base your confidence level on external factors, even internal factors, you have to make a conscious choice to play with confidence or you might as well give up the game, because you'll never "Compete" at the ability you "Play" if you don't make that conscious choice.

Jaden

No matter what you think, or what anybody says, I've got to tell you I think you're one heck of a pool player and it would not surprise me if you beat Fach or Scott or Louie.

Jaden, you can play. And guess what? Everybody knows that.

Are you going to play 100% every outing? No, and nobody else will either. All pool players understand this - that stuff can go wrong and we can play bad - so relax and accept it. If I lose I just try to do better next time. It doesn't get to me like it used to.

The thing is, like me you're really now just getting established. I've probably played in a total of 15 tournamants in my whole life! These guys play in that many in 3 months. Once you get a rep the opponents will shrink a little too.

Just remember to try to play smart playing the top guys. Learn your defensive moves really well so you have something to go to if your offensive game isn't really sharp.

Chris
 
Thanks for the kind words Chris...

No matter what you think, or what anybody says, I've got to tell you I think you're one heck of a pool player and it would not surprise me if you beat Fach or Scott or Louie.

Jaden, you can play. And guess what? Everybody knows that.

Are you going to play 100% every outing? No, and nobody else will either. All pool players understand this - that stuff can go wrong and we can play bad - so relax and accept it. If I lose I just try to do better next time. It doesn't get to me like it used to.

The thing is, like me you're really now just getting established. I've probably played in a total of 15 tournamants in my whole life! These guys play in that many in 3 months. Once you get a rep the opponents will shrink a little too.

Just remember to try to play smart playing the top guys. Learn your defensive moves really well so you have something to go to if your offensive game isn't really sharp.

Chris

I wasn't trying to make this into a "I feel bad about my inability to compete" thread. Or a "look at me and who I beat" thread either.

I actually am starting to feel much better about my game, well my ability to compete anyways.

For a while there I was letting my poor competing performance affect my practice performance, but I think I am set to be able to control myself in competition much better now, thanks to these discoveries and I just thought that letting my friends on AZ know about them might help people that have found themselves in similar situations better deal with it as well.

It can be very frustrating to be able to play lights out and do things "like insane kicks and run outs" that few people can do and then not be able to run more than four or five balls when the pressure is on.

I felt kind of bad when I went and played at the Waco tenball open that Ray held a few years ago because I went the Friday before it started and played some of the ring games and some action with James Davis Jr. and Robert Stewart, once I got "the Snake" to play sets longer than races to three I managed to beat him and he ended up buying me in the Calcutta...

Here I was hoping to buy myself at a song and he over bids me when practically no one else in the place knew who I was.

I managed to get just out of the calcutta money and I felt bad for him, because I wasn't able to play like I had been the night before.

I left after I got knocked out (I think that Jui Lung Chen ended up taking that one down), and while I had agreed to split the calcutta with him, he wasn't there when I left the poolhall and town and Ray ended up covering my end.

I sent him the money but I still felt kinda bad about the situation...

Jaden

well, thanks for the kind words anyways and I hope to be able to live up to them here in the near future and that my ability to force the confident mindset wasn't a fluke and that it only improves with time...
 
Jaden,

Amazing post. Confidence is everything for me, too. I've never tried to create it out of nothing, though. You've given me a lot to think about.




Is that supposed to be a joke?

Are you world class or something?
 
.....yeah, because there's no pressure playing in Philippines, not like people have to do it to eat and or anything.....

Have you seen bustamante's belly? oops double post. what the hell is going on? the Philippines are ganging up on me bcuz I said shane is favorite? man you guys are sensitive.
 
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Have you seen bustamante's belly? oops double post. what the hell is going on? the Philippines are ganging up on me bcuz I said shane is favorite? man you guys are sensitive.

No body is ganging up on you because you said shane is the favorite. What you said is that Shane has been in more pressure situations than Francisco. This is, in fact, very, very wrong. Bustamante was playing in pressure cookers before Shane knew what a cue was.

Braden
 
No body is ganging up on you because you said shane is the favorite. What you said is that Shane has been in more pressure situations than Francisco. This is, in fact, very, very wrong. Bustamante was playing in pressure cookers before Shane knew what a cue was.

Braden
Bustamante hasn't been in any big matches, how would he have the edge?
 
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When I was really young and first started playing seriously, I was finishing third or better in practically every tournament that I played in and I could compete for money and play well, even though I didn't have as high of an ability to "play well" as I do now. Then I had some relationship issues that I blamed for the problems with my game.

Amen! Now I know ten times as much about the game, but do terribly in tournaments. 25 years ago I played with utter abandon, just let my stroke out and always got the rolls...I put the cue ball wherever I wanted, didn't hardly think about it. Would always place in the money in any tournament I entered. Ran racks of 8 ball or 9 ball like it was nothing. As I got older (and played A LOT less), I realized how little I really knew about the game and started (with fits and starts) to work on the finer points. The more I thought about it, the worse I played.

I think one of the biggest issues is simply confidence. When we were young, we approached the table and every shot like it was a given. The thought of missing or losing never entered our head. I can honestly still remember being shocked at missing. I did great, and lived for the accolades/applause from railbirds...now, not so much. I recently played in a tournament, was doing pretty well, then got knocked into the loser's bracket. Looking at a full table used to be utter joy, now it's a chore. My first match there was a real grinder, but I pretty much stole it. Then the second match, I cleared my head, told myself it's in the bag, and was on the hill before I took another breath...then I started thinking again and lost the following match. I'm trying to figure out how to get into that 20 year old fearless mindset again, it seems to still work; like most things I just can't find it when I want it! :angry:
 
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