Cleary and others, obviously you've never played pool for a living.
Another big difference between your job and the professional players, is that we have to spend $1000-3000 out of our own pocket to get to a tournament before we hit a ball, and then IF we perform well we make money. And at times all we get back is our expense money, and less than that. If we perform badly, no money and we are out of pocket.
In the US Open 9ball case, we are not even sure when we would get paid even after spending $ to get there.
Not too many people I know pay to goto work and may or may not get paid.
That's the kind of pressure most don't face. And that's why no one on the forums or pool industry will ever be able to relate to that unless you have been there.
Originally Posted by cleary
The convention center wouldn't take a postdated check. The bleacher rental company wouldn't take an IOU. The table movers and mechanics wanted money before they got to the open. Oh, and the spectators won't buy seats, shirts, food before they start the event. Does anyone see a pattern here?
Shawn, Johnny, Charlie... whoever this is, I'm sorry but its a two way street. You're not doing manual labor, under the table. Its not 'dig the ditch, get your cash'. This is how things work in the professional world. The fact that he even has cash to pay ANYONE is simply amazing. CASH! Only in pool man... only in pool. That's funny!
I'm a professional in my industry and I work for very large clients. Nearly always I work for clients who are working for a client who are working for a client. The money exchange is never quick. Sometimes up to a year. It's my responsibly to manage my money. The larger the amount, usually the longer it takes. Do they have the money, of course, but I'm not the only bill they got.
How does this translate? Well, I think players need to manage their money better. I do understand you want to get paid, and you should. But if you have to wait a month or even 3 months to get paid $10k, $20k or even $50k... I think you should be more thankful that you had the opportunity to win that amount than worry about how quickly you can get it. A tournament like the US Open doesn't happen weekly.
Take a look at the lotto. Say you win $20million. YEAAAA... let me hold a hundo! But for real, say you win. You got a choice to make. Do you want a lump sum NOW or do you want it broken up? A pool player wants its ALL NOW!!!!! Well, all now means a lot less. Its the sucker move.
So would you rather win $15k and have to wait 3 months to get it or win nothing at all? This boycott is exactly that.
Another big difference between your job and the professional players, is that we have to spend $1000-3000 out of our own pocket to get to a tournament before we hit a ball, and then IF we perform well we make money. And at times all we get back is our expense money, and less than that. If we perform badly, no money and we are out of pocket.
In the US Open 9ball case, we are not even sure when we would get paid even after spending $ to get there.
Not too many people I know pay to goto work and may or may not get paid.
That's the kind of pressure most don't face. And that's why no one on the forums or pool industry will ever be able to relate to that unless you have been there.
Originally Posted by cleary
The convention center wouldn't take a postdated check. The bleacher rental company wouldn't take an IOU. The table movers and mechanics wanted money before they got to the open. Oh, and the spectators won't buy seats, shirts, food before they start the event. Does anyone see a pattern here?
Shawn, Johnny, Charlie... whoever this is, I'm sorry but its a two way street. You're not doing manual labor, under the table. Its not 'dig the ditch, get your cash'. This is how things work in the professional world. The fact that he even has cash to pay ANYONE is simply amazing. CASH! Only in pool man... only in pool. That's funny!
I'm a professional in my industry and I work for very large clients. Nearly always I work for clients who are working for a client who are working for a client. The money exchange is never quick. Sometimes up to a year. It's my responsibly to manage my money. The larger the amount, usually the longer it takes. Do they have the money, of course, but I'm not the only bill they got.
How does this translate? Well, I think players need to manage their money better. I do understand you want to get paid, and you should. But if you have to wait a month or even 3 months to get paid $10k, $20k or even $50k... I think you should be more thankful that you had the opportunity to win that amount than worry about how quickly you can get it. A tournament like the US Open doesn't happen weekly.
Take a look at the lotto. Say you win $20million. YEAAAA... let me hold a hundo! But for real, say you win. You got a choice to make. Do you want a lump sum NOW or do you want it broken up? A pool player wants its ALL NOW!!!!! Well, all now means a lot less. Its the sucker move.
So would you rather win $15k and have to wait 3 months to get it or win nothing at all? This boycott is exactly that.
