Acceptable New Shaft Wobble

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TheBook

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I got a new custom cue. I do not want to mention the cuemaker. I laid the cue on the table and the cue rolled or flopped over. I checked this out and noticed that there is a slight bend in both shafts. Both shafts will be flat across the table and then raise about 1/16" in the middle area. I called the cuemaker and he said that this is acceptable. He said that he has no control over this because of all the different conditions that the shafts are subjected to.
Should I accept that this is nothing to be concerned about?
 
Yeah, I have often wondered the same. My opinion is, as long as the wobble isn't at the front 5-6", F-it.

Now, those new carbon composite shafts from McDermott...I do believe they will solve our problems with this unstable wood thing...

-pigo
 
Wobble,Wobble

Ask the cuemaker if your money wobbled. If it did then it's ok, if it folded neatly in half and fit in his pockrt he owes you two new shafts.

Andy
 
TheBook said:
I got a new custom cue. I do not want to mention the cuemaker. I laid the cue on the table and the cue rolled or flopped over. I checked this out and noticed that there is a slight bend in both shafts. Both shafts will be flat across the table and then raise about 1/16" in the middle area. I called the cuemaker and he said that this is acceptable. He said that he has no control over this because of all the different conditions that the shafts are subjected to.
Should I accept that this is nothing to be concerned about?
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So have you contacted the Maker, Builder to discuss your problem :confused: Think that would be the place to start, but I personally think you have a problem from your comments, that I would find UNACEPTABLE to me. :mad:
 
BTW, I've owned many a cue over my lifetime and when new, they've been just as pure and straight as a laser beam. But, over time some have developed a wobble, a few worse than others. I've never seen one that wobbled in the beginning ever work itself back to straight. What do you think will happen over time....it'll just remain the same...it'll get straight or better....it'll get worse?
 
Nomoney said:
send it back, he has no control. what kind of answer is that. name the cuemaker.
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I am going to contact the cuemaker again and give him a chance to correct the problem. If he won't I will list his name.
 
I talked to a top notch cuemaker about this and here is his input on it. I turn my shafts and let them set 3 months, if warped, I turn them again and let them set 3 months. If still warped I turn them again and let them set 3 months. If warped after this, it is firewood!
TheBook said:
I am going to contact the cuemaker again and give him a chance to correct the problem. If he won't I will list his name.
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cut shot said:
I talked to a top notch cuemaker about this and here is his input on it. I turn my shafts and let them set 3 months, if warped, I turn them again and let them set 3 months. If still warped I turn them again and let them set 3 months. If warped after this, it is firewood!
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If they move after the second turn, BYE BYE.

There should be very little if any runout in a brand new shaft. You see it all the time in production cues, but you HAVE TO EXPECT MORE from a custom cue.

A custom cuemaker MUST be able to deliver a superior product! Just my opinion of course....

TheBook: have you rolled the shafts independant of the butt? It is possible that the joint was not properly faced, causing the shaft to rise as it is rolled when put together. This can be fixed by a competent cue mechanic in seconds.
 
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Sheldon said:
If they move after the second turn, BYE BYE.

There should be very little if any runout in a brand new shaft. You see it all the time in production cues, but you HAVE TO EXPECT MORE froma custom cue.

A custom cuemaker MUST be able to deliver a superior product! Just my opinion of course....

TheBook: have you rolled the shafts independant of the butt? It is possible that the joint was not properly faced, causing the shaft to rise as it is rolled when put together. This can be fixed by a competent cue mechanic in seconds.
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Thanks. I rolled the shafts independent of the butt for the reasons you are stating. Even at that I would not expect the joint to be the problem because of the uniqueness.

I was playing in a league the other night and many players noticed the cue and the uniqueness of the joint. It created a lot of interest. Everyone was gathered around as I put it together. I laid then laid the cue on the table and it did a flop. That ended their interest. You can imagine their comments.
 
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wow

Wow, that's tough. I had the almost same experience with a custom cue I own. People liked to see the cue. But when it did not roll true, everyone left. I got it used and I really like it so I wouldn't sell it even if someone offered. I won't have it repaired either as i seem to shoot better with the defect (lol). But if you got it straight from the cuemaker, I'm sure you can work it out. ;)
 
TheBook said:
Thanks. I rolled the shafts independent of the butt for the reasons you are stating. Even at that I would not expect the joint to be the problem because of the uniqueness.

I was playing in a league the other night and many players noticed the cue and the uniqueness of the joint. It created a lot of interest. Everyone was gathered around as I put it together. I laid then laid the cue on the table and it did a flop. That ended their interest. You can imagine their comments.
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Book, did the shaft wobble by itself or with the butt only?
 
JoeyInCali said:
Book, did the shaft wobble by itself or with the butt only?
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It does it with the butt and shaft only. The other shaft has a very slight bow but it does not flopped over. I think this slight bow has to do with the taper.
 
Chris Byrne said:
Sounds like a canadian maker to me. If it is the one I am thinking of I have seen 2 cues where the forearm joint has come loose and can be partially unscrewed. Also the one cue I had in my shop with the shaft had a warped shaft and the cue was only aprox 2 months old. I would estimate the wobble at 1/4 in. in the center of the shaft. The owner stated the shaft arrived that way. If it is the same maker you are not the only one.

Chris

I think you know the cue. I hope that I don't have any of the other problems. I have been using the good shaft. The one with the bow does not seem to throw the shot off but it is not good PR for the maker. It looks bad when the cue does a 1/4 roll when placed on the table. When you buy a custom cue you expect it to be better than a $20 Taiwan sneaky pete.
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When you buy a custom cue you expect it to be better than a $20 Taiwan sneaky pete.
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Yes so what did the maker say, he or she will fix it, or? Everyone is capable of making a mistake. Problem is sometimes getting them to admit they made the mistake, or fixing it.


My mother use to say something like: judge people by their action, and what they do. Not what they promise, or say they will do.
 
Canadian maker? Unique joint? I'll make a guess and say we are talking about one of my cues? Experiencing a problem with a cue is something possible (and that goes for any cuemaker). Now speaking for myself, as far as I can remember, I have always stand behind my cues and have never been ashamed of admitting a problem (fortunately there aren't too many as someone else suggested). That's why I always fix a problem. Especially in this case, if the shaft arrived warped than it's not even a matter of discussion. I wish the person would contact me directly so we can discuss the matter.
Now as far as the forearm joint being problematic I have seen this problem happen once because the person actually broke himself the cue by hitting it. Our forearm joint cannot be unscrewed since it is not screwed. The joint is made of a maple cone glued onto a female cone under the wrap section. It is either undone or together, there's no in between. My cues have a reputation for being very good playing cues, I will surely not let isolated problems like this one ruin this reputation.

Thierry Layani
 
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