Addressing Mod Issues in Chat Rooms

Fast Lenny

Fast Lenny

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Well I have received some complaints about mods in my chat. A mod is a volunteer who keeps order in the chat rooms, if someone is being negative like bashing players or other people in the chat then they are warned and removed.

I know there has been an issue with one person mainly making a mess in the chat rooms and he goes by the handle of pocketbilliards among others. I will pay well to know whom this person is as they are the cause for many chat issues on my stream and others, maybe its really that Kent guy. This person will make a name similar to regular people in the chat and just add an extra letter or something to that effect and will spew out some garbage and then get banned. The problem is when the real user comes on or is already there the mods will ban the real person who causes no trouble. My apologies to those who that has happened to but its something beyond my control.

One thing that will change is that mods will not use the little power of being able to ban, kick or timeout someone for personal vendettas or problems they might have from here or other chat rooms. I do appreciate the mods and the help they provide because during many streams I do I am also playing and I am not always there to keep an eye on things.

As one person remarked to me there are many streams out there so enjoy them and if you had a bad experience because of a mod being abusive in the chat or you were banned because someone made a name close to yours and the mods did not see the differences between the two names my apologies. What I am doing is a FREE stream and what the mods are doing as volunteers is also FREE. Thanks for those who support the live feeds and for people causing trouble on there, you are a moron and need to get a life!!! :wink:

P.S. If you have any suggestions or complaints just list them here, I will respond and address them, thanks again.
 
cant they double check the banee name with the IP of the original bad actor? Other than that just quickly educate your guys on '0' 'O' '1' 'l' periods, spaces etc. Gotta be a site out there that can help. Good luck

damn creeps.
 
Nostroke said:
cant they double check the banee name with the IP of the original bad actor? Other than that just quickly educate your guys on '0' 'O' '1' 'l' periods, spaces etc. Gotta be a site out there that can help. Good luck

damn creeps.
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The problem is that we might ban the same guy 10 times in one day, he might keep coming back making new names up kind of like a special person on here does. The IP address changes probably because of some computer knowledge or the provider they are using. I know that the mods sometimes do get itchy with the trigger finger and sometimes ban the wrong person because of the 1 off letter or number in the name, I guess the mods will have to look harder at the name they are banning. I personally ban the person making an obscene statement by clicking there name right next to the statement as opposed to in the chat sidebar where everyone is listed because if they hit and run then you might end up banning the person with a similar username.
 
Nostroke said:
cant they double check the banee name with the IP of the original bad actor? Other than that just quickly educate your guys on '0' 'O' '1' 'l' periods, spaces etc. Gotta be a site out there that can help. Good luck

damn creeps.
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Theres always someone out there trying to ruin the fun for someone else!
 
Fast Lenny said:
The problem is that we might ban the same guy 10 times in one day, he might keep coming back making new names up kind of like a special person on here does. The IP address changes probably because of some computer knowledge or the provider they are using. I know that the mods sometimes do get itchy with the trigger finger and sometimes ban the wrong person because of the 1 off letter or number in the name, I guess the mods will have to look harder at the name they are banning. I personally ban the person making an obscene statement by clicking there name right next to the statement as opposed to in the chat sidebar where everyone is listed because if they hit and run then you might end up banning the person with a similar username.
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Well there u go- All bans done in this manner whenever doable.
 
Fast Lenny said:
The problem is that we might ban the same guy 10 times in one day, he might keep coming back making new names up kind of like a special person on here does. The IP address changes probably because of some computer knowledge or the provider they are using. I know that the mods sometimes do get itchy with the trigger finger and sometimes ban the wrong person because of the 1 off letter or number in the name, I guess the mods will have to look harder at the name they are banning. I personally ban the person making an obscene statement by clicking there name right next to the statement as opposed to in the chat sidebar where everyone is listed because if they hit and run then you might end up banning the person with a similar username.
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As many of you know Lenny has me as a Mod on his streams, this is also the way I kick, ban, people.
When I ban someone it is not because I don't like them, it is because either they say something that gets them kicked or I have deleted there post and asked them to stop what they are doing and they refuse.

There are a few people I would like to kick every time I see them but I don't until they give me a reason. Some people have a bad day or are just passionate about a topic and they say something they shouldn't.

I am guilty of this myself and try not to say things that are mean or will get everyone worked up.

So if you say something and it gets deleted don't take it personal, at least in my case I am just trying to help keep the chat from blowing up.
 
Last stream I watched was the US Open 10 Ball where Viffer was the Super Mod. Then Viff would Mod up like 5 people. Sometimes he would make me a Mod. Then he would put everyone on a time out. Then 20 minutes later we would all be Mods again. Then he would time out everyone. It was great fun. Viffer puts you on a time out if you say something that he doesn't understand or doesn't like. But then he makes you a Mod again in like 20 minutes. Mikey is a pretty good Mod and so is Dorabelle. I would also like to say that Spanky is one of the best Mods I have come across.

I have never been banned (by mistake or on purpose). I can tell you it would piss me off to get banned without just cause. But it is free to chat. Mods can't ban you from PPV.
 
I just want to say the issues on my chat are being handled, tread lightly in the chat room if you plan on being a jerk because if I ban you it will most likely be forever. :wink:
 
Fast Lenny said:
if you plan on being a jerk because if I ban you it will most likely be forever. :wink:
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Well, there goes my plans. ;)

Seriously, why does it always seem to be the same guys always getting in arguements, getting banned, etc.?

It reminds me of a person I know who got booted out of a certain person's tournaments and league. They even used to play on the same team. He is also kicked out of his local poolroom that he grew up in. I mentioned that no matter if he is right it wrong(don't want to tell people like him that they are wrong), maybe it is not everyone else....maybe it is the way you decide to deal with situations.
 
Fast Lenny said:
I just want to say the issues on my chat are being handled, tread lightly in the chat room if you plan on being a jerk because if I ban you it will most likely be forever. :wink:
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There ya go....good on ya! If folks can't put their big boy pants on and play well with others, then they should be forever banned from ruining the enjoyment of others. Never understood the internet bully. Fighting in chat rooms is childish and moronic.....Dan
 
danquixote said:
There ya go....good on ya! If folks can't put their big boy pants on and play well with others, then they should be forever banned from ruining the enjoyment of others. Never understood the internet bully. Fighting in chat rooms is childish and moronic.....Dan
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you got that right brother! Streamtards...apparently it's their whole life and exposes why they have social issues in the first place.

How hard is it really, to just talk? I talk as if I was standing in front of the people at the time I'm typing to them. If everyone else used that approach, I think there wouldn't be much of this childish nonsense involving the same people.
 
Hungarian Nut said:
Last stream I watched was the US Open 10 Ball where Viffer was the Super Mod. Then Viff would Mod up like 5 people. Sometimes he would make me a Mod. Then he would put everyone on a time out. Then 20 minutes later we would all be Mods again. Then he would time out everyone. It was great fun. Viffer puts you on a time out if you say something that he doesn't understand or doesn't like. But then he makes you a Mod again in like 20 minutes.
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I guess I'm just too old but nothing about this sounds like fun. Just out of curiosity, when you were having so much chat fun during the US Open stream, did you happen to catch any pool being played on the stream? :confused:

Thank goodness for the full screen option.
 
A pre-registration to chat on the free live stream is easy to implement.

If you've been doing this for awhile you probably get regulars and some unknowns.

The pre-registration helps filter out the trolls and rewards the nice regulars.

You might be able to limit newbies through word count in a single message and frequency of post.

Once they establish they are clean posters, up the word count and frequency limit.

TO RECAP:
limit the character count of a message by new chatters
increase the wait time between posts by new chatters
THE REWARD SYSTEM WORKS IN FAVOR OF HEALTHY CHATTERS
by giving them larger character counts
and shorter wait times between posts.
 
Since your One Pocket stream was the first that held my attention I’d like to offer my newbie perspective.

For most of the night I was on full screen but checked out the chat once the announcer made mention of the problems there. Neither clever or amusing, they were the standard gay references that I did not want to see on my screen. I noticed they scrolled away so my suggestion would be that the other viewers should flood the chat with non-aggressive responses, so as not to encourage others, and let the flames pass into history while the mods deal with the offender once and for all.

I think though there is a place for some needling in the chat room. I find it entertaining to “overhear” a player being called out, especially if it is done with some wit. It would be a shame if users were reduced to writing “so you ride a bike” after the announcer mentions he rode his bike to the tournament.

Thanks for being a provider,
Allan
 
Actually, the chat and PPV are separate.
The PPV is just the live stream, the chat is the chat and mods can still ban people.
 
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justnum said:
A pre-registration to chat on the free live stream is easy to implement.

If you've been doing this for awhile you probably get regulars and some unknowns.

The pre-registration helps filter out the trolls and rewards the nice regulars.

You might be able to limit newbies through word count in a single message and frequency of post.

Once they establish they are clean posters, up the word count and frequency limit.

TO RECAP:
limit the character count of a message by new chatters
increase the wait time between posts by new chatters
THE REWARD SYSTEM WORKS IN FAVOR OF HEALTHY CHATTERS
by giving them larger character counts
and shorter wait times between posts.
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I'm just curious with this. How exactly are you going to that, with the chat applett itself or a special program? That sounds like quite an extravagent code.
 
Fast Lenny said:
The problem is that we might ban the same guy 10 times in one day, he might keep coming back making new names up kind of like a special person on here does. The IP address changes probably because of some computer knowledge or the provider they are using. I know that the mods sometimes do get itchy with the trigger finger and sometimes ban the wrong person because of the 1 off letter or number in the name, I guess the mods will have to look harder at the name they are banning. I personally ban the person making an obscene statement by clicking there name right next to the statement as opposed to in the chat sidebar where everyone is listed because if they hit and run then you might end up banning the person with a similar username.
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If the person is smart enough to use a public proxy server or other service that provides IP masquerading (anonymous internet surfing), then it's impossible to ban him by IP address.

But, IMHO, anyone with that kind of knowledge that would use it just to troll forums and chat rooms can't have all that much going on in their lives. :p
 
That is NOT correct Winston. The proxy IP masks the real IP but the proxy IP also has an address when logging in that gets banned. Most proxy servers are static which means they do not change, and even the ones that do have a root. Ban the proxy IP and it cannot log in. The proxy IP works identical to normal IP when logging onto the server. It is only annonomous surfing as it hides the true IP behind it. Works fine for browser surfing but Ustreams chat servers are actually not browser based though 99.9% of the users log in via browser.
 
bboxgrinder said:
That is NOT correct Winston. The proxy IP masks the real IP but the proxy IP also has an address when logging in that gets banned. Most proxy servers are static which means they do not change, and even the ones that do have a root. Ban the proxy IP and it cannot log in. The proxy IP works identical to normal IP when logging onto the server. It is only annonomous surfing as it hides the true IP behind it. Works fine for browser surfing but Ustreams chat servers are actually not browser based though 99.9% of the users log in via browser.
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I know that. I think I just didn't word it properly - or completely. What I should have said was that it was impossible to ban the single user without banning the ENTIRE proxy server, which would ban other users using that service as well. What I said was correct from the standpoint that it is impossible to ban a SINGLE USER going through a proxy server based on their IP address.

I've been out of it for a few years and am probably a little behind on the times, but unless things have changed, the chat is probably UDP based, and UDP can still be proxied.
 
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