So you're basically saying that the OB follows the pocket the same way your dog chases a fox?
What do you feed your pool balls, fab?
Aiming at "Center Pocket"
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What do you feed your pool balls, fab?
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What's your problem?
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Why didn't you ask this question instead of questioning my english?
Dave, the question wasn't "you need to look at the pocket" it isn't looking, or seeing the pocket, he said "you need to know percesily where the pocket is" and the answer is yes because, you already know exactly where the pocket is from anywhere you stand at the table, if you're familiar with it.
and you then feel where the pocket is, sense it, and make an image, It's all about the image you create......... and yes you also do know exactly where the pocket is, Im sure of it.
A little thought experiment. Say you take a world class soccer player that has a high rate of scoring precentages. Some how have the goal completely blocked from sight, say by a wall. Then have him shoot goals. I bet he could hit somewhere in the goal area because there are still enough visual refernces from the surrounding to be used to know where the goal is.
Now, take that some player, put him in a box with walls high enough not to see anything but the green grass he is standing on.
I bet he hasn't a clue where the goal would be. He knew where the goal was from years of play and using all the visual refernce that are on the playing field. Take those away, he's lost.
Same in pool. Prevent a shooter from seeing anything of the table, he's lost.
From the years of shotmaking, the pocket location will become so ingrain in your sub conconscious, you will start to believe the location doesn't matter.
I really doubt a newbie to pool and to CTE or any system for that matter would have much luck with the test that was presented as proof the pocket location doesn't matter.
Now, take that some player, put him in a box with walls high enough not to see anything but the green grass he is standing on.
I bet he hasn't a clue where the goal would be. He knew where the goal was from years of play and using all the visual refernce that are on the playing field. Take those away, he's lost.
Same in pool. Prevent a shooter from seeing anything of the table, he's lost.
From the years of shotmaking, the pocket location will become so ingrain in your sub conconscious, you will start to believe the location doesn't matter.
I really doubt a newbie to pool and to CTE or any system for that matter would have much luck with the test that was presented as proof the pocket location doesn't matter.
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You are right. By proper use of logic you have ensured yourself the correct answer, but that wasn't the question. "A general location" was stated in the ops choices. And yes, that is all that's needed.
On a very advanced level, I think its even beyond that...to what degree I don't know.
If you want to mail a letter to a specific address (a precise location), do you only have to write the zip code (general location) on the envelope to get it to that precise location?
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I agree with this idea. With a reference point, an experienced shooter can find the pocket. After several shots they may dial in center pocket. This is an advanced player's ability through many hours of practice.
Gerry Kanov, in his book, Precision Pool, talks about the moving pocket center. He tells how the pocket center for a shot down the rail is different than a shot from the spot. As an advanced player, I practice hitting parts of the pocket by placing a white hole reinforcer in the part of the pocket I need to hit. After some practice, I don't need the aiming aid anymore. It becomes just a suggestion to myself and gets done.
If you move the pocket, all bets are off. My spatial recognition would have to relearn the process. This is true when you go from a bar box to a nine footer for the first time. You have to learn the angles.
Finding center pocket comes with practice. To find center pocket, you must first understand the moving pocket idea and adapt for each angle.
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Mike
Oy vey. "Center pocket" isn't meant literally in this thread; it means "a precise target". The question is whether any target must be located precisely in order to hit it precisely.
The answer is, of course, yes. As Mike Page said, you have to be insane or not understand the question to say otherwise. (And, since everything must be explained here, Mike doesn't think anybody here is insane; he's saying that many on here don't understand the question - and boy is that true. We have the poll to prove it.)
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Nice PJ. We got that. My point went over your head. I was addressing how a precise target is acquired. Visually. And coincidentally Cte relies on visuals. Could there be a link? And others are debating this because the real question for this poll should be, "Is Cte a center pocket system or how can we prove the users are wrong as usual without acting like that's what we tried to do"?
The answer is there must be enough information given to the player for him to reference any and all targets. Whether it's his relative position to the pocket, a rail, the spot on the table or a direct visual perception. The part not mentioned is what this player, through years of experience, does with this information. After a series of shotmaking attempts, they may be able to narrow down the intended target to small area and hit it consistently, with feedback gained from previous attempts.
The cue ball/object ball relationship is used in Cte without regard to pocket location, also. Could we be trying to disprove this? Hmmmmm?
The members of the Cte ILK would like to once again thank Professor Johnson, for his contributions to our growing level of intelligence, through his efforts and keen grasp of the obvious.
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Actually, it doesn't appear to me that your level of intelligence is growing. For instance, it was obvious that the word "ilk" was used in the other thread to mean "systems like CTE", not "people who use CTE" - this was even explained by the person who said it. Yet you continue to be unnecessarily combative by insisting on misinterpreting it as some kind of personal affront. You seem to want it to be that. Maybe because it's easier to feel picked on than to consider the possibility that "your ilk" are wrong about some things?
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Here's the definiton for the reading impaired...
ilk
1 /ɪlk/ Show Spelled[ilk] Show IPA
–noun
1.
family, class, or kind: he and all his ilk.
I used your favorite color, too. It was a definite backpedal. And BTW, how many times a year do you hear the word "ilk" used in conversation or correspondence? It was meant exactly as taken. Sorry, Professor...the intelligence card is becoming a tell.
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Mike
i would love to see a test of cte where a sheet is suspended just barely above the rails and stretched out to a full dimension extending beyond edges os table for an indeterminate number of feet and a whole cut exactly over cue ball to object ball with the extent that the blind covers table different on each side and see what the pocket percentage is if you cant see the rails or table edges.
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You can't always know exactly where the pocket is, so you can only guess. "center pocket aim", is just an aiming method. It can be used to find center pocket. Just like Pepe is used to find the fox. Or kinda like Jp forgetting his address and having to find mail to refresh his memory.
My bridge has "center pocket aim" button, when I press it, it'll give me x,y coordinates to center pocket. Without it I have to draw lines to find the center of the pocket...and aim and stuff.