Aiming question - banks

gazman100

gazman100

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Aiming question - banking.
How would you bank this 13 ball into the corner pocket.
Whatever banking system your using whether it's the mirror system, number system,
CTE, or so forth.
How would you bank this ball which is repeatable and reliable.
Would you use a hair of outside spin, a hair of top, or would you use stun, draw, etc.
Cheers :)
 

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It looks almost like a dead bank cross corner.

Not easy to tell from the picture but I would go CTE ETC with a left sweep.

It could be a right sweep depending on the ball positions.

Maybe provide the across diamond positions or an overhead of the setup to make it easier.

Cheers,
Gerry

gazman100 said:
Aiming question - banking.
How would you bank this 13 ball into the corner pocket.
Whatever banking system your using whether it's the mirror system, number system,
CTE, or so forth.
How would you bank this ball which is repeatable and reliable.
Would you use a hair of outside spin, a hair of top, or would you use stun, draw, etc.
Cheers :)
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On my table, that looks like etc, left sweep (thicken), medium firm stun stroke, just a hair of outside english. Speed and spin may vary slightly table to table. I agree with Gerry though, hard to tell the angle and distances precisely from that photo.
 
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speed is the key ingredient to making this shot consistently

Cut the ball slightly to the right and hit it firm.....the ball with "hold" a truer line and may actually bend towards the hole.....speed is the key ingredient to making this shot consistently.

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gazman100 said:
Aiming question - banking.
How would you bank this 13 ball into the corner pocket.
Whatever banking system your using whether it's the mirror system, number system,
CTE, or so forth.
How would you bank this ball which is repeatable and reliable.
Would you use a hair of outside spin, a hair of top, or would you use stun, draw, etc.
Cheers :)
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I'm with CJ on this one.....hit it slightly right with center or a touch of inside English but firm to tighten the angle.

I think that offers the best angle of approach to maximize the pocket opening.
 
gazman100 said:
Aiming question - banking.
How would you bank this 13 ball into the corner pocket.
Whatever banking system your using whether it's the mirror system, number system,
CTE, or so forth.
How would you bank this ball which is repeatable and reliable.
Would you use a hair of outside spin, a hair of top, or would you use stun, draw, etc.
Cheers :)
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Where is the cue ball needing to go? Can't answer without that information .
 
A little below center, firm hit. Hard to tell from the angle of the picture but it looks pretty much dead on to me.
Chuck
 
Hits 'em Hard said:
Where is the cue ball needing to go? Can't answer without that information .
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What he said. You don't bank a shot a certain way because its your favorite way. Don't you wanna be rewarded by having an easier shot afterwards?:). Still gotta play shape. If shape wasn't going to be an issue,maybe over cut it ,hit dead center cb and hit it with some athority.
 
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CJ Wiley said:
Cut the ball slightly to the right and hit it firm.....the ball with "hold" a truer line and may actually bend towards the hole.....speed is the key ingredient to making this shot consistently.

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not sure you need to cut the ball slightly but it seems on the line for firm hit with no spin
 
Assuming I don't need any specific CB shape for the next shot...

It looks like a dead-ball bank would be (geometrically) just beyond the pocket, correct? If so, this is a CTE A with right-pivot (slight left cut). If the dead-ball bank comes short of the pocket, then it is CTE C with left pivot (slight right cut). In either case, hit CCB. It will roll truest off the bank with a softer hit, anything medium to soft should be fine.

Now if you are Brumback, hit the ball a half inch down the rail from the natural angle with a bit of inside english and firm hit, it will hold up and give you a bigger pocket :)
 
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cloth, rails and other conditions like humidity.

It depends on the cloth, rails and other conditions like humidity.

Some of the greatest bankers in history would "hold" their banks to give them a slightly bigger margin of error (because of the approach angle to the pocket).

bbb said:
not sure you need to cut the ball slightly but it seems on the line for firm hit with no spin
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mohrt said:
Assuming I don't need any specific CB shape for the next shot...

It looks like a dead-ball bank would be (geometrically) just beyond the pocket, correct? If so, this is a CTE A with right-pivot (slight left cut). If the dead-ball bank comes short of the pocket, then it is CTE C with left pivot (slight right cut). In either case, hit CCB. It will roll truest off the bank with a softer hit, anything medium to soft should be fine.

Now if you are Brumback, hit the ball a half inch down the rail from the natural angle with a bit of inside english and firm hit, it will hold up and give you a bigger pocket :)
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exactly!!

furthermore:

the only logical solution should be the same for everyone. to work hard to get reference shots for yourself. im a great fellow of systems. no matter if is for kickin or banking. but for banking i just use my references and expiriences rom endless shooting. AND learning from the banking king kongs ;-) . as soon as you understand why they do this or that different you re a big step farther. banking has a lot to do with feeling, expirience and endless repetitons. and THEN u have to lesrn about circumstances like humidity etx :-)

freddie s stuff and brumbacks stuff can be an eye opener for everyone.

and yes: cte/pro1 works fantastic for banks.

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gazman100 said:
Aiming question - banking.
How would you bank this 13 ball into the corner pocket.
Whatever banking system your using whether it's the mirror system, number system,
CTE, or so forth.
How would you bank this ball which is repeatable and reliable.
Would you use a hair of outside spin, a hair of top, or would you use stun, draw, etc.
Cheers :)
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Top (cue 'up' through the cball) firm. The top will make the oball bend slightly and give you a big pocket. John B.

PS: outside english (left) will make the pocket shrink and so will any amount of draw.

PPS: I don't come over here much but if anyone has any questions about stuff like this you can PM me,and I'll get back to ya.Thanks
 
Its dead

gazman100 said:
Aiming question - banking.
How would you bank this 13 ball into the corner pocket.
Whatever banking system your using whether it's the mirror system, number system,
CTE, or so forth.
How would you bank this ball which is repeatable and reliable.
Would you use a hair of outside spin, a hair of top, or would you use stun, draw, etc.
Cheers :)
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Its dead at about .50 diamond or less off the 2 to 1 ratio.. Fire the cue ball full in the face with a firm stroke.
 
336Robin said:
Its dead at about .50 diamond or less off the 2 to 1 ratio.. Fire the cue ball full in the face with a firm stroke.
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It could be dead on the right table.:wink:
Not all tables play the same,I know,,,you know that.:)

Know one can really answer your question opening poster , how does the table play?long or short.

Cant really answer correctly if we dont know the table.

If shape isnt a big deal the best approach is to always over cut the bank and hit her firm. This will make all tables play closer to the same way.
 
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