Aiming Systems • NAYSAYERS • YEASAYERS

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It's only simple if someone agrees with you or seeks out more info. Disagree with you or the rest of the clan and it is no longer simple.

Lou Figueroa

Based on the dialog I posted what is there to disagree with?

If you tried the system and were not impressed then you could say that and why if you chose to.

The "issues" come in HOW you do that.

If I answered the question by saying, "yes I use it all the time and I am regularaly spanking Orcullo due to it", then I expect you and others to take exception to a statement like that.

Just like I take exception when you say that Stan Shuffet DELIBERATELY put out confusing information that dooms the student to failure.
 
I think I have finally figured out what is going on here. Now I just need Lou and JB to confirm this for me.

Are you two getting paid for your posts? If not, I think you two are getting ripped off. Just think of all the traffic you guys generate for this site. You guys must be getting paid for this! What do you do with all the cash? I know Lou used some of his to purchase Stan's DVD. Now I just have to figure out what JB does with all of his. That sure was an awful nice pool table I saw in that video a few weeks back. Hmmm.
 
You're obviously not the brightest crayon in the box.

You were the one who suggested that the Naysayers wait three days before commenting on an aiming thread. So why don't you Yeasayers follow your own suggestion? It appears that you are the one who is being hypocritical.

Not at all troll. Since you can't really comprehend the simplest of concepts nor do you take the time to even try I will repeat it again for you.

I said that the naysayers should refrain from posting in the NEXT thread about an aiming system to see what happens.

I said let the yeasayers have the floor and watch how quickly the thread dies from lack of controversy. The few people who are truly interested in discussing the merits and technical aspects would do so and the thread would lose popularity quickly in my estimation.

Why do I feel that debating you is like clubbing a baby seal? You're not even really worthy of a response but you make a convenient punching bag as you offer yourself up so willingly. You must have a huge masochistic streak in you.
 
I think I have finally figured out what is going on here. Now I just need Lou and JB to confirm this for me.

Are you two getting paid for your posts? If not, I think you two are getting ripped off. Just think of all the traffic you guys generate for this site. You guys must be getting paid for this! What do you do with all the cash? I know Lou used some of his to purchase Stan's DVD. Now I just have to figure out what JB does with all of his. That sure was an awful nice pool table I saw in that video a few weeks back. Hmmm.

We ought to be. But no, the sad part is that I am so sick in the head that I actually LOSE money by posting in these threads. Any time I spend on them is time I don't spend making cases. Lou is retired and apparently has all the time in the world to spend on his needlepoint.
 
Something I posted a few months back:
"I don't remember any of the old men ever teaching me how to hold a stick or stroke a shot. They never told me how to aim or what to expect of the cue ball after shooting. When I made a mistake that they thought was serious, I was simply told it was stupid. It was left to me to reason why. I usually did. The old men were good teachers, because they didn't impose their game on me. Pool requires creative thinking and constant reappraisal. What makes the game so great is that it changes with each player's personality. A lot of players shoot equally as well. It is the great thinker, the creative mind that will most consistently prevail."

From: The Pool Hall
 
I think the reason you use ignore here and would use it in the pool room is that you do fully understand that there are things that piss you off which you would rather not deal with.

Just listened to a little Robin Williams and he said something cool which is universal...


"Nanu, Nanu?"

John, nothing here pisses me off. But when people become nothing more than baiting trolls, I write them off.

Lou Figueroa
 
the sad part is that I am so sick in the head that I actually LOSE money by posting in these threads. Any time I spend on them is time I don't spend making cases. Lou is retired and apparently has all the time in the world to spend on his needlepoint.

As I said before, JB isn't the brighest crayon in the crayon box.

JB has apparently spent the past 9 years of his life arguing with Lou and other posters over aiming systems. Not only is he probably tarnishing the reputation of his business but now he openly admits that he is losing money at it. One can only imagine that this obsessive arguing that JB engages in is costing him thousands of dollars.

In another aiming thread, I proposed that JB, JoeyA, Spidey and Lou agree to a truce to no longer post in any aiming thread. If JB were smarter, he should have jumped at the opportunity to put an end to this acrimony. Instead he seems to be perfectly content to argue the nuances of aiming for the next nine years. :smile:
 
I think I have finally figured out what is going on here. Now I just need Lou and JB to confirm this for me.

Are you two getting paid for your posts? If not, I think you two are getting ripped off. Just think of all the traffic you guys generate for this site. You guys must be getting paid for this! What do you do with all the cash? I know Lou used some of his to purchase Stan's DVD. Now I just have to figure out what JB does with all of his. That sure was an awful nice pool table I saw in that video a few weeks back. Hmmm.


Well, I don’t know about John’s contract, but I get paid every time someone uses the words “naysayer” or “hater.” There’s a bonus for each time the exact phrases “CTE is ca-ca” or “doomed to failure” are used. I also get paid for each complete sentence Joey posts in blue ink, with a bonus for any word he posts with large font, italics, and/or bold face. (I was also offered an incentive for each post he or Spider addresses to me after being told they were on Ignore, but passed thinking that eventually even those two would smarten up... I may have blown it on that one.)

As Smorg would have said, "Yee ha!"

Lou Figueroa
 
As I said before, JB isn't the brighest crayon in the crayon box.

JB has apparently spent the past 9 years of his life arguing with Lou and other posters over aiming systems. Not only is he probably tarnishing the reputation of his business but now he openly admits that he is losing money at it. One can only imagine that this obsessive arguing that JB engages in is costing him thousands of dollars.

In another aiming thread, I proposed that JB, JoeyA, Spidey and Lou agree to a truce to no longer post in any aiming thread. If JB were smarter, he should have jumped at the opportunity to put an end to this acrimony. Instead he seems to be perfectly content to argue the nuances of aiming for the next nine years. :smile:

Yep, that and clubbing baby trolls like you make life worthwhile. At least we aren't parrots like you with no original thoughts.
 
Yep, that and clubbing baby trolls like you make life worthwhile. At least we aren't parrots like you with no original thoughts.

It appears to me that despite your name calling, insults and ad hominem attacks, that "baby troll" that you're trying to club to death is doing just fine. :smile:

In case you've forgotten Joey's sweet sentiment from the first post of this thread, let me remind you of it: "I hope that you will all join me in a new era of tolerance for those who don't believe as you do."
 
It appears to me that despite your name calling, insults and ad hominem attacks, that "baby troll" that you're trying to club to death is doing just fine. :smile:

In case you've forgotten Joey's sweet sentiment from the first post of this thread, let me remind you of it: "I hope that you will all join me in a new era of tolerance for those who don't believe as you do."

If you consider that you are unable to see that you are a hypocrite then yes you are doing just fine. They say ignorance is bliss and you appear postively bathed in ecstasy in your ignorance bubble. So far I have outed you as a liar, since you claimed to interested in learning about aiming but you parrot objections to them, and a hypocrite, since you preach the gospel of restraint and practice the opposite.

But like many liars and hypocrites internet forums are where you get to puff up your ego without any fear of retaliation. All I can can do is rebut you each time into eternity or thread closure. Which of us will blink first baby troll?

And which aiming systems have you tried? What's your opinion? What advice do you have for others about them? Oh that's right, you haven't tried any, you have no knowledge of the mechanics from your own experience, and all you can do is be a parrot of other people's thoughts.

Such a tiny little meaningless existence. I hold out hope that someday you will have an original thought and share it with us. Seems unlikely but miracles do happen.
 
Which of us will blink first baby troll?
Based upon your earlier posting, me thinks that you'll blink first. :smile:
"the sad part is that I am so sick in the head that I actually LOSE money by posting in these threads. Any time I spend on them is time I don't spend making cases. Lou is retired and apparently has all the time in the world to spend on his needlepoint."​
 
Based upon your earlier posting, me thinks that you'll blink first. :smile:
"the sad part is that I am so sick in the head that I actually LOSE money by posting in these threads. Any time I spend on them is time I don't spend making cases. Lou is retired and apparently has all the time in the world to spend on his needlepoint."​

Depends on how you define blinking. To crush your posts requires no active thought. It's pretty much autopilot. At least Lou makes you think about it a little bit and try to come up with a credible answer. You're like the nut on the corner who incessantly parrots whatever he hears.

The funny part is that you don't "thinks". You are like a cave, only able to echo other people's thoughts while only being a hollow dumb rock. And if we continue the analogy you're not the interesting kind of cave either either judging by your character.

I can go on busting you up all night without end until I get tired of it. Anonymous baby trolls like yourself are fun to kick around and watch you squeal.

You think you are trapping me by quoting me? This is the part you don't get son, I can be brutally honest about myself on here because that's how I am. I know my shortcomings and don't act like a hypocrite about them.

Unlike you, who lies and acts against your own preaching. So boy, keep it coming because if this is all you have you need to seriously work on your technique. I'd say you should go back and see what the other trolls have tried that are now long gone while I am still here.

Someday you will understand that it's pathetic to follow me around and post trying to antagonize me. But if that's where you are in life son then it's where you are. I spent that $1 just for you boy. That's my charity for the day.
 
I don't know what I would call it. I do know it's IMPRESSIVE in your hands when you fire those balls in at high speed. :D

IMPRESSIVE AIMING SYSTEM might sound too pompous, but it is impressive. Now, you just have to come out with a video and book to show precisely how it is done. Win a few titles and you'll have a long line of followers.

thanks joey, i think i called it 100% aiming system, because of the way it works. Its in my book. which will be released this month and the dvd series will be coming in the early 2012
 
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Depends on how you define blinking.
Hmm, for most people this should be a no-brainer. By not blinking you lose money.

As you said: "the sad part is that I am so sick in the head that I actually LOSE money by posting in these threads."

You mentioned how sick in the head you are. Maybe a psychiatrist could help you with this sickness? Or maybe some of us forum psychiatrists could be of some help? :rolleyes:
 
Hmm, for most people this should be a no-brainer. By not blinking you lose money.

As you said: "the sad part is that I am so sick in the head that I actually LOSE money by posting in these threads."

You mentioned how sick in the head you are. Maybe a psychiatrist could help you with this sickness? Or maybe some of us forum psychiatrists could be of some help? :rolleyes:

Certainly not a liar and hypocrite like you would be able to help me in any capacity.

Is this the best you have got? Shouldn't you be out practicing the aiming systems you claimed to want to learn?

You seem to have lied about that. Too bad as you might have found some benefit to your game. But you're not here to learn are you? You're just here to troll and get kicked around apparently. I earn enough to be able to afford to crush you anytime I like. I only lose money responding to people who make me have to think. Rebutting lying trolls like you is like flipping pennies in a fountain.
 
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You and I go way back on this. Remember what you told me after I came on RSB talking about meeting Hal and learning his systems? All the insults about "the force" and tin foil hats and religion? That was 9 YEARS ago.

And you have been at it ever since. Your opinion is noted. It is perfectly clear at this point that you will not be using, trying or believing in any aiming system derived from anything Hal Houle taught. So is there any possible way that you can just leave the people be who do want to discuss it?
It's kind of sad that you've spent the past 9 years arguing with Lou over aiming systems...and the past four years here arguing with AZB posters too. As another poster said, once you get into a aiming thread you're like a pitbull with lock-jaw unable to let go of anything. You really should get some help for your OCD.

Since this thread has gone way off-topic, let's re-read the OP's sentiment below:

NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO TAKE IT UPON THEMSELVES TO BE THE JUDGE AND JURY OF WHAT OTHERS SHOULD BELIEVE OR NOT BELIEVE, NOR DO WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO RIDICULE THOSE WHO BELIEVE DIFFERENTLY THAN WE DO.

I hope that you will all join me in a new era of tolerance for those who don't believe as you do.​
 
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WAAAH! WAAAAH! I have Spidey on ignore cause I don't like what he says about me. I hate how he calls me out for spitting in the faces of national instructors and insulting a man's work so much the man's wife has to login to azb and defend her husband.

WAAAAAH! I hate Spidey's sophomoric pictures because they tell the story so well I can't stand it.

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!! For now on, everyone who sheds light on what I do, I'll just ignore them. If they REALLY get under my skin, I'll SUPER-IGNORE them!! BOOOOOO HOOOOO
 
I don't know why I'm doing this but...

Here's where I was lost on this whole CTE thing several years ago:

CTE proponents claim that their is no feel involved in their aiming process...zip....zero....nada. I just can't get past this amazing claim. This claim is so obviously false that I can't even honestly consider trying out one of these systems when the true yeasayers believe this.

For a little perspective on this, I believe that even the more "geometrically true" aiming methods require feel in order for the shooter to really lock in. Nobody can really slice the object ball up into an infinite number of contact points (I believe this is why a lot of people use different aiming methods). All we can really do is estimate and then before we pull the trigger we have to let our subconsious do its job and help up get locked in.

This is where the actual conflict lies. If the yeasayers would finally admit that yes there is indeed some feel involved in their process of aiming than maybe we could get somewhere.

So, in the spirit of good will and cooperation are the yeasayers ready to admit this?
 
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baby-crying.jpg


WAAAH! WAAAAH! I have Spidey on ignore cause I don't like what he says about me. I hate how he calls me out for spitting in the faces of national instructors and insulting a man's work so much the man's wife has to login to azb and defend her husband.

WAAAAAH! I hate Spidey's sophomoric pictures because they tell the story so well I can't stand it.

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!! For now on, everyone who sheds light on what I do, I'll just ignore them. If they REALLY get under my skin, I'll SUPER-IGNORE them!! BOOOOOO HOOOOO

SpiderWebComm,

Lou, PJ and a few others have had their way in the forum, bullying people to the point that some have even left the forum never to return.

Lou has just gotten a taste of what he has been giving out these last few years. It's unfortunate but some people just don't cease and desist until you make them look in the mirror.

By putting people on "ignore" (:p:p:p) Lou is able to save some face. I guess he needed that. :embarrassed2:

Maybe Lou has figured out that "he doesn't like it when the rabbit's got the gun". That's an old saying in our pool room and appropriate to Lou and his crying about how he is being victimized. ;)

Nevertheless, in the spirit of this thread, and improved forum relations, I would ask you and others to take it easy on Lou. I think he is trying to improve his forum etiquette. :cool:
 
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